DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Javon Walker or Chad Johnson ? May be available...

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That's your opinion. Jules had repeatedly told us about this stuff before they were losing.

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Did you not catch the irony of my comment Pdawg... or are you just in a fiesty mood today and decided to pick on me

I agree with your statement to some extent, but as I said CJ has not used the media to move his own agenda at the expense of his teamates and or coaches, that is the difference to me. CJ to me is just a donkey when he scores....you are right it's funny win you win and it makes you mad when you lose.

Well he ought to play somewhere, hasn't helped C-tucky mucho. Ocho is loco. Send him! I suspect the handwriting of a trade is alreay out there or been leaked to him already, so he ha to react. You're fired! or I quit routine. So HOF laugh takes its show on the road? Good riddance!

Da Browns! May the Elf be with us in Ought Eight!

Theere is no acceptable reason in my playbook for the level of distraction and division Ocho Stinko caused.
If your mind is on that crap, the team isn't getting 100% of what that are entitled to get. Selfish and ego central. Just ain't worth it. I will miss beating him.

Da Browns! May the Elf be with us in Ought Eight!

Chad is on espn now...

He didn't say it, but you can tell by his wording that he doesn't want to go back to the Bengals...

He didnt mention, nor did ESPN analysts mention the dolphins though.

OMG though.. Chad knows the WR position to the T... Hearing him break down bump and run coverage sounds very impressive.

j/c

What I find laughable about the Chad Johnson thing is that despite everything the Bengals fans STILL want him to stay.

You know the Browns fans would want him gone.

I think CJ was a distraction at times but I also believe that the Bengals just didn't play well for whatever reason. I don't think it was all CJ's fault but he was a major conributor to the meltdown the Bengals are suffering through.

I really don't think he'd be any happier in Miami, LOL.

Now, between Walker and CJ, I think CJ is the more talented WR but I really don't see any reason we should attempt to acquire either one of them, we could and should be able to do better.

I'd trade both of them for T.J. Houshmensada (sp) LOL

jc

Source: Bengals' Johnson may sit out 2008 season if he's not traded

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com
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Updated: February 3, 2008, 12:07 PM ET

Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson feels betrayed by head coach Marvin Lewis and is privately threatening to sit out the 2008 season if he isn't traded, according to a source.

Johnson was upset after the coach quit speaking to his receiver early in the season, according to the source.

The Bengals star wideout has been making the rounds with the media at the Super Bowl. When asked on Jim Rome's radio show this week about whether or not he was happy with Bengals, Johnson sounded less than happy.

"I'm not allowed to say. I get the blame; the so-called best player, I'm the problem. Someone in-house is spreading this. Maybe they want me to quiet down [and] stop being me. That is not going to happen. I can't function that way. I tried it. It sucked. There was no excitement."

Lewis has said he won't trade Johnson, who finished with a single-season franchise-record 1,440 receiving yards. Johnson has had six consecutive seasons with at least 1,000 receiving yards and is under contract with the Bengals through 2011 after signing a $35.5 million extension in April 2006.

"Obviously, there is a lot of frustration with things that happened last year as it pertains to Chad," Johnson's agent, Drew Rosenhaus told The Cincinnati Enquirer.

Rosenhaus tried to explain his client's recent statements to the media.

"What Chad is doing [in the radio interviews] is expressing his emotions and frustration."

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Obviously, there is a lot of frustration with things that happened last year as it pertains to Chad," Johnson's agent, Drew Rosenhaus told The Cincinnati Enquirer.

Rosenhaus tried to explain his client's recent statements to the media.

"What Chad is doing [in the radio interviews] is expressing his emotions and frustration."

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Rosenhaus has several clients that do that... First TO, Now Chad. I have to wonder if he doesn't put them up to it in a planned effort to increase thier contract value by causing thier current teams to want to move them... I just wonder!

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"I'm not allowed to say. I get the blame; the so-called best player, I'm the problem. Someone in-house is spreading this. Maybe they want me to quiet down [and] stop being me. That is not going to happen. I can't function that way. I tried it. It sucked. There was no excitement."

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Excitement is catching 90 balls for better than 1,200 yards and being a team player.

Chad J has done half of that for 5 years, now if he could only get the other half of the equation right he would be a desirable player.....

j/c

Does anyone else feel that Chad has completely gone off the deep end? I read the article on ESPN about how he blew of mandatory interviews at the Pro Bowl and I read the answers he gave to the NFL Network and he just seems like he's lost it. He can play, there's no doubt about that, but I wouldn't touch him with a 200 mile pole. Our team is almost completely made up of team guys with great work ethics and we have some really good leadership (especially with JJ at the WR posistion and I think Braylon may be developing into that role too) and there's no reason to throw someone into the mix who would almost certainly disrupt a team and a locker room that is right on the brink of being a serious contender.

He's a team guy when he's winning... I mean thats just how some people are..

I wouldn't say I that I wouldn't touch him, but I know he wouldn't work here as a Cleveland Brown. If I were him, I'd go out west to Seattle or something.

jc
Theres a snippet about the skins wanting to trade for Johnson

Redskins' Offseason: Now It's On
Adding Elite Receiver Is Team's Top Priority
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Talking Points -- Feb. 11

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By Jason La Canfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 12, 2008; Page E01

Now that the Washington Redskins have hired Jim Zorn as head coach, the team's focus turns to free agency, a period in which owner Daniel Snyder traditionally has dominated headlines with high-priced acquisitions. With executive vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato making personnel decisions with Snyder in place of Joe Gibbs, the Redskins may be preparing for a return to the busy offseasons of the past.
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Snyder and Cerrato are working to renegotiate a dozen or so contracts, with the team roughly $16 million over the salary cap. It's an annual ritual -- converting base salaries to bonuses for cap savings -- and undoubtedly the Redskins will be left with room under the salary cap to add players.

Numerous league sources, including some with direct knowledge of conversations between Snyder, Cerrato and recent head coaching candidates, have affirmed that the Redskins have interest in trading for Cincinnati wide receiver Chad Johnson, with two league sources saying Johnson is eager to land a hefty new contract from Washington.

Acquiring an elite receiver is Snyder's top priority, league sources said. The Bengals have said they have no intention of trading Johnson, but his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, is working quietly to broker a deal, the sources said.

The Redskins also are expected to again pursue Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs, another Rosenhaus client they attempted to trade for last offseason.

Most of the needs on defense -- particularly on the line -- will likely be addressed in the draft, which is what newly promoted defensive coordinator Greg Blache is pushing for, team sources said. Blache has also contacted several veterans -- cornerback Shawn Springs and tackle Cornelius Griffin among them, according to team sources -- to inform them they remain in his plans.

Some change is inevitable, though. Interviews with candidates for the Redskins' head coaching job, as well as with team and league sources, give a sense of the Redskins' preliminary plans.

Quarterbacks

Snyder and Cerrato are intent on seeing Jason Campbell prosper, and the pressure is on Zorn to produce with him in the near term. Campbell will be working under a seventh offensive system in eight years dating from college and some wonder how much patience the Redskins' front office will have with him as he learns another system.

"It's a two-to-three year process," said one veteran coach who, like Zorn, is a disciple of Seattle Coach Mike Holmgren. "I'll be very interested to see what kind of rope that kid gets."

The Redskins have made no attempt to re-sign quarterback Todd Collins; doing so had been considered a high priority under Gibbs and Al Saunders, the former associate head coach-offense.

At least three other teams have interest in Collins, but the Redskins have exclusive rights to re-sign him until he hits the market at the start of free agency on March 1. Several general managers said that bringing Collins back could jeopardize Campbell's development.

Veteran Mark Brunell, a Gibbs favorite, is a free agent who is unlikely to be re-signed, team sources said, with Zorn perhaps pursuing a veteran third-stringer, such as Trent Dilfer, who knows his offense.
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Wide Receivers

Johnson is a game-breaker who is strong and, at 6 feet 1, has the kind of size the Redskins' wide receivers lack. But his quick tongue and clashes with coaches have caused turmoil with Cincinnati. If he is traded, two general managers estimated it would take a low first-round and a third-round pick, or perhaps two second-round picks, to land him.

New England is likely to put a franchise tag on Randy Moss, retaining his rights, while less-stellar wide receivers such as Jerry Porter (Oakland) and Javon Walker (Denver) could be possibilities. Johnson, however, would be Snyder's ideal acquisition, according to multiple sources.

"He made it very clear that was his top choice," one coaching candidate said.

Brandon Lloyd is almost certain to be released, according to sources who have talked to Snyder and Cerrato. Veteran Keenan McCardell is also unlikely to be back. James Thrash, a special teams standout for Gibbs, might not return, and concerns over chronic knee problems could mean that reserve Reche Caldwell also will not be re-signed.

Veterans Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El need to overcome injuries that plagued them last season. Team sources said Snyder is considering expanding his training rehab staff to help limit and cope with the number of hamstring issues, which were prevalent on the team in 2007.

Running Backs/Tight Ends

Snyder and Cerrato raved about Clinton Portis during interviews with head coaching prospects, sources said. Another renegotiation of his contract is likely. While Gibbs sometimes referred to Portis and Ladell Betts as "interchangeable," sources said that Snyder and Cerrato spoke of Betts solely as a backup. Team sources said they expect Betts to resume kick returning duties in 2008. Free agent Rock Cartwright is expected to depart.

Fullback Mike Sellers and tight end Chris Cooley will have significant roles in the West Coast offense under Zorn. Backup Todd Yoder has earned the respect of coaches in two seasons in Washington and depth could come from Tyler Ecker, team sources said. He was injured during the first weekend of training camp last season and placed on injured reserve. Ecker "completely reshaped his body" during rehabilitation, a team source said.

Offensive Line

Several coaching candidates were troubled by the repeated injuries to starting right tackle Jon Jansen, who broke his leg in the first week of last season. However, the Redskins gave Jansen a contract extension a year ago and Snyder told coaches it's not feasible to release him because of the salary cap ramifications.

There are injury concerns with veteran guards Pete Kendall (arthritic knees) and Randy Thomas (who suffered another season-ending injury last year). League sources said a priority is acquiring, perhaps through the draft, a young center-guard to stabilize the interior of the line.

Veteran Mike Pucillo filled the role the past two seasons but has a serious back condition, sources said, making it less likely he will be re-signed.

Team sources said they expect Lorenzo Alexander -- who shined on the offensive and defensive lines last season -- to join the offense full time. One coach said he believes Alexander is nimble and athletic enough to become the team's best pulling lineman.
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Offensive line coach Joe Bugel has expressed some concern about Alexander's modest wingspan, team sources said, but he showed considerable promise last season and could help solidify the line.

With rookie Stephon Heyer showing promise as well last season, injury-prone backup tackle Todd Wade could be jettisoned.

Defensive Line

This is the primary area of concern on the defense, with Blache, a longtime line coach, adamant about adding depth. He aims to retain Griffin and veteran end Phillip Daniels, who team sources said may play more at tackle and is willing to rework his contract. But Blache's first priority it to groom a quicker, faster and more versatile tackle (referred to as a 'three' technique). Blache is also looking for a pass-rushing end who can line up opposite Andre Carter.

Younger players Anthony Montgomery and Kedric Golston developed in 2007, but age is a concern at some spots on the line. Blache will be pushing second-year speed rusher Chris Wilson to become a more well-rounded lineman, team sources said.

Linebackers

Former Pro Bowl linebacker Marcus Washington has been injured often the past three years; third-year linebacker Rocky McIntosh is coming off reconstructive knee surgery and, though making progress, remains a question mark. McIntosh also has a potential degenerative condition in both knees.

Briggs, a player Chicago is not interested in retaining, according to league sources, is a talented outside linebacker who can also rush the passer. He could start at his McIntosh's weak-side spot with McIntosh focused on special teams while he works his way back. Backup Randall Godfrey is mulling over retirement again, team sources said, and also considering joining his mentor, Gregg Williams, in Jacksonville.

Defensive Backs

Cornerback Carlos Rogers is coming off major knee surgery and will have to feel his way through the first half of the season. Rogers was not progressing well in his rehabilitation until very recently, making the addition of a young cornerback another priority. Leigh Torrence and John Eubanks would be pushed if a new cornerback joins the roster. Blache has told others he believes it is imperative that Springs is re-signed. Starting cornerback Fred Smoot also returns after a strong finish last season.

Young safeties LaRon Landry and Reed Doughty played well in the aftermath of Sean Taylor's death. Landry is bordering on stardom and several NFL executives praised Doughty's development. Veteran safety Pierson Prioleau, a free agent and another of Williams's proteges, could decide to join the Redskins' former assistant head coach-defense in Jacksonville.

Specialists

Punter Derrick Frost had a strong first half, then tapered off and team sources said they expect special teams coach Danny Smith to bring at least one veteran into training camp for competition. Place kicker Shaun Suisham is also still developing and missed a critical field goal in the playoff loss to Seattle, but has strong support and is seen as someone who could provide stability at a position of great turnover in recent years.

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J/C

Anyone else see Chad wearing a Ravens hat during practice at the Pro Bowl?
Perhaps he wants to go to a division rival in order to get to stick it to his old team twice a year?

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Anyone else see Chad wearing a Ravens hat during practice at the Pro Bowl?
Perhaps he wants to go to a division rival in order to get to stick it to his old team twice a year?

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Not to start up controversy but Braylon had one on too. I think they were having some fun.

Brandon Lloyd is almost certain to be released, according to sources who have talked to Snyder and Cerrato.

anybody remember this guy with the niners. It seemed like he was just starting to develop and then he left or was traded to the skins. Don't remember exactly. Seems like he got lost on the redskin roster with Moss and Randel El. Thought he had a good college career as well.

I don't remember any off the field issues????

He would definately be worth a look and from what i remember, an upgrade from what we have/had in Carter.