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Sounds promising. No retreads thank you....


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It would absolutely be our luck that Rees and Vrabel go to a team that turns around and becomes an instant playoff contender.


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That was the end result when they let Kyle Shanahan get away in 2014.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG

Would we get comp picks if she's hired?


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Browns announce Mike Bloomgren as new offensive line coach

Bloomgren previously served as the head coach at Rice University for seven seasons

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-announce-mike-bloomgren-as-new-offensive-line-coach


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I'm not sure. But the Titans just fired their GM and my guess is they would be interviewing her for the GM role. That's a move up and not a lateral move which from my understanding would not require draft compensation but don't quote me on that.


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Would we get comp picks if she's hired?
Maybe.

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Bloomgren worked under Callahan for two years during his time with the Jets. Hopefully, they got the hire right this time.

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Interesting read on Bloomgren philosophy/scheme on the run game and OL blocking…

https://www.xandolabs.com/the-lab/p...pline-in-no-chase-tight-zone-principles/

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Browns announce Mike Bloomgren as new offensive line coach

Bloomgren previously served as the head coach at Rice University for seven seasons

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-announce-mike-bloomgren-as-new-offensive-line-coach

Hiring an OL coach before the OC seems a bit odd to me. Hopefully he works out better than Dickerson.


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Interesting read on Bloomgren philosophy/scheme on the run game and OL blocking…

https://www.xandolabs.com/the-lab/p...pline-in-no-chase-tight-zone-principles/

Here's Bloomgren actually talking OL in some videos. His philosophy and basis for everything at Rice was "Intellectual Brutality." That sound good.


CoachTube.com:How to teach your OL to drive and create holes-Mike Bloomgren

Here's another on Short Yardage and Goalline.

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The description sounds like something we could use: "In this course, you'll discover how to implement a highly effective short yardage and goal line package, which helped the Rice Owls achieve an impressive 89% conversion rate in 2022.

Coaches Mike Bloomgren and Sanders Davis share their expertise, covering everything from unique stances and explosive starts to the schemes and techniques that enable the Owls to dominate at the line of scrimmage."


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I wonder whether Catherine Hickman is interviewing to meet the Rooney Rule or whether Bill Callahan recommended her. I am hoping for the latter.

It is hard to know how qualified she is. She sounds bright in her interviews.

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This interview will also satisfy the Rooney Rule.



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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Bloomgren worked under Callahan for two years during his time with the Jets. Hopefully, they got the hire right this time.

Me too..I'm hopeful that Bloomgren can coach the Browns OLine.

Looking into Bloomgren's history...hopefully his years as a HC for Rice will not and should not define Bloomgren. Rice is located in Houston TX and not exactly known for it's football history. The competition for landing top talent at a school like Rice is tough. Bloomgren was 24-52 for a .316 winning pct. over 7yrs.

It was Bloomgren's record at Stanford that impressed me...
From 2011-2012 Bloomgren was the run game coordinator & offensive line coach
....2011 record 11-2
....2012 record 12-2

In 2013 Bloomberg served as offensive coordinator & offensive line coach
....2013 record 11-3

From 2014-2017 Bloomgren served as Stanford's assistant head coach, offensive coordinator & offensive line coach
....2014 record 8-5
....2015 record 12-2
....2016 record 10-3
....2017 record 9-5

Hopefully MB can restore the Browns OLine.




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Hiring an OL coach before the OC seems a bit odd to me.

I thought so too at first glance. But after thinking about it for a bit the entire coaching staff works under Stefanski and in the end it's his decision what OL scheme he wants to run and who he wants to run it. At least in theory.


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I just hope whoever the OC is can mesh well with Bloomgren.


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Me too. that would be best for not just as but the team as well. In the grand scheme of things I believe that if the OL can run black and pass block well it would be beneficial to any OC's offense.


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I'm not sure. But the Titans just fired their GM and my guess is they would be interviewing her for the GM role. That's a move up and not a lateral move which from my understanding would not require draft compensation but don't quote me on that.

The draft picks wouldn't be given by the Titans. They would be awarded by the league as between round comp picks. Part of the DEI stuff the league has in place.


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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
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Browns announce Mike Bloomgren as new offensive line coach

Bloomgren previously served as the head coach at Rice University for seven seasons

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-announce-mike-bloomgren-as-new-offensive-line-coach

Hiring an OL coach before the OC seems a bit odd to me. Hopefully he works out better than Dickerson.

Why? Head coaches hire their staff as far as I know. I don't think a HC hires his OC then lets the OC hire everybody else on that side of the ball.


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The Vikings GM, Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, was our VP of football operations, and we received a pick when the Vikings hired him. Other teams have hired coordinators for their head coach and received a pick. Peen is right that the picks are "after the rounds" compensatory picks. A 3rd rounder would be placed fter all the other teams in the 3rd round had picked.


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Bloomgren worked under Callahan for two years during his time with the Jets. Hopefully, they got the hire right this time.

Me too..I'm hopeful that Bloomgren can coach the Browns OLine.

Looking into Bloomgren's history...hopefully his years as a HC for Rice will not and should not define Bloomgren. Rice is located in Houston TX and not exactly known for it's football history. The competition for landing top talent at a school like Rice is tough. Bloomgren was 24-52 for a .316 winning pct. over 7yrs.

It was Bloomgren's record at Stanford that impressed me...
From 2011-2012 Bloomgren was the run game coordinator & offensive line coach
....2011 record 11-2
....2012 record 12-2

In 2013 Bloomberg served as offensive coordinator & offensive line coach
....2013 record 11-3

From 2014-2017 Bloomgren served as Stanford's assistant head coach, offensive coordinator & offensive line coach
....2014 record 8-5
....2015 record 12-2
....2016 record 10-3
....2017 record 9-5

Hopefully MB can restore the Browns OLine.




I agree Mac. Rice hasn't been good at football since Frank Ryan played QB there in the late 50's. Looking at a record isn't the best way to determine if a person can coach or not. This guy will bring in systems that have worked for our players in the recent past. It should turn out to be a good hire.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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Browns announce Mike Bloomgren as new offensive line coach

Bloomgren previously served as the head coach at Rice University for seven seasons

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-announce-mike-bloomgren-as-new-offensive-line-coach

Hiring an OL coach before the OC seems a bit odd to me. Hopefully he works out better than Dickerson.

Why? Head coaches hire their staff as far as I know. I don't think a HC hires his OC then lets the OC hire everybody else on that side of the ball.

I always understood it to be more of a flow-down. Sure, the HC has to be good with the hire, but they will often times defer to their direct reports to hire someone they see fit for the position. For instance, when Hue Jackson was here, I highly doubt he initiated the effort to hire Blake Williams, Gregg's son (I know Hue is probably not the best example...).

I suppose the one exception to that is if the HC expects to retain playcalling duties, or be heavily involved with one side of the football, which Stefanski has.


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I actually went to the Browns/Vikings game in London back in 2017 with my brother, best friend and sister. It was a blast, despite the fact we lost. A bunch of German fans were behind me and asked me questions about the game. The people sitting in front of me were oddly enough from Brookpark. I grew up 10 minutes away in Westpark.

The tide was out, so the river bank of the Thames by the stadium was more exposed. I skipped rocks on the Thames (I was also a little buzzed) with people from England, Ireland, Germany, and Denmark (rooted for the Vikings out of heritage, haha). Then had more beers and food at The Barmy Arms, my brother's favorite pub.

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I actually went to the Browns/Vikings game in London back in 2017 with my brother, best friend and sister. It was a blast, despite the fact we lost. A bunch of German fans were behind me and asked me questions about the game. The people sitting in front of me were oddly enough from Brookpark. I grew up 10 minutes away in Westpark.

The tide was out, so the river bank of the Thames by the stadium was more exposed. I skipped rocks on the Thames (I was also a little buzzed) with people from England, Ireland, Germany, and Denmark (rooted for the Vikings out of heritage, haha). Then had more beers and food at The Barmy Arms, my brother's favorite pub.

Sounds like fun. I like my football Sunday at 1PM thank you. That said, I'm already spinning the idea of going in my head. I haven't been to England in far too long. I wonder if that wonderful curry place in Kennsington is still there.

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Browns announce Mike Bloomgren as new offensive line coach

Bloomgren previously served as the head coach at Rice University for seven seasons

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-announce-mike-bloomgren-as-new-offensive-line-coach

Hiring an OL coach before the OC seems a bit odd to me. Hopefully he works out better than Dickerson.

Why? Head coaches hire their staff as far as I know. I don't think a HC hires his OC then lets the OC hire everybody else on that side of the ball.

I always understood it to be more of a flow-down. Sure, the HC has to be good with the hire, but they will often times defer to their direct reports to hire someone they see fit for the position. For instance, when Hue Jackson was here, I highly doubt he initiated the effort to hire Blake Williams, Gregg's son (I know Hue is probably not the best example...).

I suppose the one exception to that is if the HC expects to retain playcalling duties, or be heavily involved with one side of the football, which Stefanski has.

I think if anything is to be gleaned from this, it's that we are going back to the original KS offense. I'm curious if this is an indicator that KS will take back playcalling duties.


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I actually went to the Browns/Vikings game in London back in 2017 with my brother, best friend and sister. It was a blast, despite the fact we lost. A bunch of German fans were behind me and asked me questions about the game. The people sitting in front of me were oddly enough from Brookpark. I grew up 10 minutes away in Westpark.

The tide was out, so the river bank of the Thames by the stadium was more exposed. I skipped rocks on the Thames (I was also a little buzzed) with people from England, Ireland, Germany, and Denmark (rooted for the Vikings out of heritage, haha). Then had more beers and food at The Barmy Arms, my brother's favorite pub.

Sounds like fun. I like my football Sunday at 1PM thank you. That said, I'm already spinning the idea of going in my head. I haven't been to England in far too long. I wonder if that wonderful curry place in Kennsington is still there.

We went to Dishoom in Kensington last time. Not sure if that's what you're talking about, but it was really good.


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That's my take upon further contemplation. It will revert back to KS' style of offense. I don't know if that means he will be taking back playcalling or not, but I imagine he will.


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I actually went to the Browns/Vikings game in London back in 2017 with my brother, best friend and sister. It was a blast, despite the fact we lost. A bunch of German fans were behind me and asked me questions about the game. The people sitting in front of me were oddly enough from Brookpark. I grew up 10 minutes away in Westpark.

The tide was out, so the river bank of the Thames by the stadium was more exposed. I skipped rocks on the Thames (I was also a little buzzed) with people from England, Ireland, Germany, and Denmark (rooted for the Vikings out of heritage, haha). Then had more beers and food at The Barmy Arms, my brother's favorite pub.

Sounds like fun. I like my football Sunday at 1PM thank you. That said, I'm already spinning the idea of going in my head. I haven't been to England in far too long. I wonder if that wonderful curry place in Kennsington is still there.

We went to Dishoom in Kensington last time. Not sure if that's what you're talking about, but it was really good.

We walked around and the third time walking passed we had time have it. No idea what the name was though.

I suppose it is time to renew those passports.

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I'm not sure. But the Titans just fired their GM and my guess is they would be interviewing her for the GM role. That's a move up and not a lateral move which from my understanding would not require draft compensation but don't quote me on that.

The draft picks wouldn't be given by the Titans. They would be awarded by the league as between round comp picks. Part of the DEI stuff the league has in place.

Thanks Peen.


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That's my take upon further contemplation. It will revert back to KS' style of offense. I don't know if that means he will be taking back playcalling or not, but I imagine he will.

And that's certainly a possibility. My take is he simply hired someone that would install the best outcome for the OL. The OL was built for and excelled in the zone blocking scheme. As I mentioned earlier, having an OL working in a scheme where they run block and pass block well would help any OC execute any style of O well. More time with a clean pocket and better, more open running lanes is a huge asset in any O system.

As of now I'm going to take it to mean he wanted an OL coach that best fit the talent.


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Blessing in disguise. He should just retire. Hopefully we can recoup a bunch of cap space. Don't draft a subpar QB this year with the #2 pick. Suffer through Winston next year or sign someone like Cousins to get us to a better QB pick next year.


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Winston isn't under contract for next year.


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Blessing in disguise. He should just retire. Hopefully we can recoup a bunch of cap space. Don't draft a subpar QB this year with the #2 pick. Suffer through Winston next year or sign someone like Cousins to get us to a better QB pick next year.

I am not sure the Browns can afford a retirement. I think, with the way the contract is structured, he needs to stay on the roster, even if it is the PUP/IR.

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I don't even care the cost or the consequence at this point - I am so tired of the Watson stuff. I just want the whole issue gone


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A ruptured Achilles usually takes a full season to recover. I never liked the watson signing from the very beginning and made no secret about it. Still, with that being said I wish no injury on any player whether they wear a Browns uniform or any other NFL uniform.

I will however say that I will be glad he won't be wearing a Browns uniform next season.


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