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Moved to a more appropriate thread
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Not everything that is faced can be changed,
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I totally understand the Browns going after Watson.
Just 23 lawsuits..what could go wrong..? With the circumstances of those lawsuits hanging over Watson's head, that wouldn't mess with football player's head..would it?..it wouldn't affect a QBs play the field, would it?
Between legal issues and injury issues the Watson trade is a disaster imo.
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j/c…
Pretty direct from Garrett. Wouldn’t blame him one bit if he wants to get away from this mess that’s been created.
I’m half expecting a Russini or Wickersham article at some point on went down in Berea during this abysmal season.
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I am glad you posted this.
I do not blame Myles at all. He deserves to know the plans.
I am suspicious about the plans for the next few years. There are legitimate reasons. We went through Sashi and a tear down.
Haslam will always have his thumb on the team. He will make certain decisions. He made the final decision on DW.
He may force a decision that he wants DW to have another chance this coming year because he has to pay DW.
The Browns are on the hook for two years at $72 a year. That is a team limiting factor.
Myles may not get a chance to win while he is in his prime. In fact he could end up much like Joe Thomas.
I do not want to trade Myles. At the same time I don't trust Haslam to put a winning product on the field anytime soon.
Not because he doesn't want to win. He does. It is because of the repercussions of the DW trade and the timing.
In order to turn this team around a lot has to go right. As an organization Haslam has not proven he can do that.
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That just doesn't sound great for the Browns in my opinion.
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The real issue is the manipulation of the cap by Berry and the situation he has the Browns facing. Though it is true the cap number for Watson is $72,935,000 the next two seasons, people seem to forget the void years that were added by Berry to get his cap charge down the last 3 years. A pre June 1st cut would bring all that money due to the cap accountable and the price is $172,734,000. That's right my friends; Berry has manipulated the cap to the point where the Browns have only recorded paying Watson over the last 3 years a grand sum of $57,266,000. The Browns still have to account for 75.1% of Watson's fully guaranteed deal of which they have only recorded 24.9% the first 3 years.
Another player in that mess is Wills. Assuming that the Browns don't resign Wills, the Browns are still on the hook for $11,812,056 for deferred accounting of 4 void years on his deal. The Browns are accountable for that dead money in 2025 if Wills walks.
If the Browns decide to part with Conklin, his cut pre June 1st cost is now $14,471,000 on the 2025 books.
Letting Bitonio go leaves the Browns with a $14,532,000 cap charge in 2025.
Letting Teller go leaves the Browns with a $19,178,300 cap liability in 2025.
Just these 5 players alone carry a dead money cap hit of $232,727,356 in 2025 pre june 1st if the Browns decide to move on.
"Kicking the can down the road" is coming home to roost. Doesn't seem quite so brillant anymore, does it?
How dire is the situation? Right now, even with a $43,535,477 carryover from 2024, the Browns have a $336,149,072 cap liability and are projected to be $17,362,572 over the projected 2025 cap. BREAKING NEWS FOR GARRETT: Hard to build a winner now with no cash to do it. Wait, I know the answer, restructure Watson again - JUST KICK THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD!
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Just "KICKING THAT CAN DOWN the ROAD"
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This’s another reason why we can’t continue with Berry.
At some point this kind of accounting will backfire and Garrett’s comments is a taste what will happen quit soon when our star players and talents stop to believe in Berry’s “successful” $230m project and will flee the sinking ship before it’s to late.
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No matter how many times fans say they want to fire Berry and or KS.
I do not think it is going to happen this year.
Myles has made his intentions clear. His message to the FO is simple "fix it or I am leaving."
When people say they need to be "aggressive" at quarterback. I don't know what that means. We have been "aggressive." The DW trade was aggressive.
What needs to be done is find a way to win with what is available. DTR is going to finish the season. He deserves a chance. You don't bail on a developing 6th round project pick before you actually see him play. Find out what he is capable of with a real chance to prove himself.
Explore every vet that might give you a chance to win. Bring in the best option to win now.
The draft is questionable but that is always the case. Dig deep. Don't let mocks and other opinions stop the process of hard investigation.
Brock Purdy was the last selection in the draft. Bo Nix was the 6th QB taken.
The NFL opportunity landscape is free agency, trades, the draft, and player development. Get it right. Make good personnel moves and coach the players.
We may not compete for a Super Bowl next year but we can have a winning season. If we start making great personnel decisions we will improve.
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To get out of this mess every move we make from now on has to be the right move. We have to hit on all of them whether it's a salary cap move. FA or the draft. Does anyone have confidence our FO can do this with our track record? I don't blame Myles. We've had 2 good seasons in the 8 years he's been here. He'll be 29 in a week. In all likelihood we won't be competitive in the next few years. I don't blame him for how he feels. We wasted a great players career with Joe Thomas. I'm sure Myles doesn't want that to happen to him.
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Brock Purdy was the last selection in the draft.
HC=Shanahan
Bo Nix was the 6th QB taken.
HC=Payton
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When people say they need to be "aggressive" at quarterback. I don't know what that means. We have been "aggressive." The DW trade was aggressive.
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Make good personnel moves and coach the players.
We need to be aggressive and smart The DW trade was aggressive - not smart Make good personnel moves and coach the players - is absolutely correct Unfortunately I see little of either
Last edited by Jester; 12/21/24 09:40 AM.
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I know everybody wants to hang the blame somewhere.
So the head coach and GM are the usual targets.
IMO Berry is about average as a GM. He has made some good moves and mistakes which is normal for a NFL GM.
I think KS is a good young head coach. No matter what happens here KS will continue as a head coach and do well if he has the talent.
No head coach can win without talent.
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