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He has said that he will use the American military on U.S. soil to round up immigrants. He has used his rhetoric to create the environment where his supporters actually believe that liberals and anyone who speaks out against trump is "the enemy of the people". He has undermined the media including the major news networks to the point that his followers also believe they are somehow the enemy of the people. He is currently installing extremist loyalists who have little to know experience at positions to every major job in our government. Those are not jokes. And one writer claiming those things are jokes does not make that any different.

Actually much of that article shows similarities between the two. And like the article states, people didn't take Hitler seriously either. Until they no longer had a choice.

I have compared his speeches, quotes and tactics to Hitler. You pointed out that Hitler isn't the only one that this applied to and I agreed. Name a despot, any despot and the same could be said.

Or did you forget about that?

You're trying too hard.

Where ya putting your goal posts now? Any old depot is not Hitler. He really ranks high in the evil category.

Yet somehow that wasn't what you were saying yesterday. I'm surprised you can't feel those goal posts after where I decided to store them.

Me replying to your nonsense is not me making a new assertion.

i appreciate your posting this, and your honesty in regards to its bias.

The political artist is an interesting angle, but I think the scope could broaden significantly and encompass many politicians from around the world. Their goal is to get elected, there's only so many ways to do that, and overwhelmingly it seems that "there's a problem I can solve, the other guys won't" is how people get elected, and how they stay elected. The presentation of the idea may vary, but it is a well worn tactic.

The issue with Trump is "like Hitler" is the hyperbole that inevitably results is he is now a Nazi and a fascist. People want to tie him to the atrocities Hitler and his ilk perpetrated as a way of demonizing him. What the Nazis did should not be used lightly. Beyond the 6 million Jews there were many other people exterminated. The reich enabled the iron tyranny of bureaucrats as well, it was not all perpetrated by Hitler but the power to oppress people emanated from him and was broadcast though a network of subordinates that were the real engine of the Reich.

There are very few humans in history that were as evil, or more evil than Hitler, though at some point the differences in them are meaningless.

The only reason you and a few others say that about Pit and the Goal posts is because you don't have answers for his statements and questions. So you gotta gaslight him. It's your only defense. and it's weak

I've answered his nonsense, then he comes up with different nonsense. If you put time into an actual well thought answer you get a Pitrope with him laughing, claiming you aren't qualified, you don't pay attention, you are just too stupid to understand, etc etc etc.

You are correct there are many more politicians that operate in something of a similar vein - populist, lacking in policy, normally charismatic, and finding a target to point the finger at for all the countries issues, try to get their supporters to mistrust the media no matter how valid the "news". Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are two I am familiar with in the UK. There are others globally. I think the extreme way in which Trump has done it - which to my mind mirrors the extreme way that Hitler was able to do it (and get away with it).... and there's this also from the article that is (seems to me at least) to juxta position with Trump:

“Hitler goes from 2.6% of the vote in 1928, meaning more than 97% of the electorate don’t want him, to the Nazi party becoming the biggest party in 1932. Then these conservative politicians say, OK, we’ve got this political nincompoop here but he’s a populist and he’s popular, the people like him. If we try and make this guy vice-chancellor then he can do our bidding.

“Hitler says no, I’m not going to be vice-chancellor, I want to be chancellor, so eventually they give in but they still think that he is going to do what they want and push through their policies. One of these conservative politicians memorably said, ‘We’ve hired him.’ Hitler manipulated them and he becomes chancellor and from there on in it all goes disastrously wrong with German society.”

I think where things get very muddy ... and I will set aside the people who I think have been brainwashed by the MSM to simply say "Trump is Hitler" ... is where you have the actual people and groups who identify as 'Nazis' - or white extremists who do without a shadow of a doubt support Trump. That doesn't make Trump one of them no matter how much some might want to make it so ... but it's hard to deny that Trump panders to them, sends them coded messages and actively works to secure their support. On the one hand you can say - win at any cost. On the other hand you can question the ethics of that strategy and you can question what political decisions then get made to maintain and keep that support. JMO.

I have clearly distinguished the difference between what Hitler eventually became and how he started out. The things he was saying in the beginning and how he used the same rhetoric as trump to divide the people is one in the same. Yet in the real world, it's obvious that the Nazi groups in our country have gotten his message as well.

The Dems simply forgot rule #1. There are no good Hit^@# analogies. To make the claim is silly, and the comparison rabbit hole is flawed logic at best in the soundbite media world.

Thankfully there was only one.

Yes, the quotes never happened and the exact same rhetoric means nothing. It's all simply a mirage for some.

And for some it is sheer desperation.

As a horse you have been led to the water but are still on deaths door due to thirst.

Only you'd look at sand and be convinced it is water.

And that is why you're still so thirsty. You can't tell the difference between the two.

No, that's why I don't buy your BS.

Hitler called his political enemies an "existential threat to Germany"... Now where have I heard that sort of rhetoric? Can I place it.... hmmm.. Did Biden say that? Harris? Pelosi? Fill in the blank name with a D behind it?

Here comes the hand waving an how that's different than your assertion...

Go on, show me your hypocrisy in full bloom.

Here comes the place where you show me where they said anything like "the enemy within" over and over and over again on the campaign trail drilling that message into the minds of their voters.

The only thing I remember them saying was that "trump is a threat to democracy". Where did they call millions upon millions of voters their enemy? Where did they call millions of immigrants "vermin"? When did they say if needed they might "use the military to round up those enemies of the people"?

Your hyperbole to try and make two different things sound the same is hysterical. But when that's all you have left.......

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bid...t-america-trump-point/story?id=105401847


You can use your favorite search engine to find more examples. This was not an isolated incident, this was a core rhetoric from about the midterms to the first assassination attempt.

You have shown an example that falls well short of calling out anyone other than a candidate for office. He is calling out trump and trump alone. Once again...........

Where did they call millions upon millions of voters their enemy? Where did they call millions of immigrants "vermin"? When did they say if needed they might "use the military to round up those enemies of the people"?

That's a giant sized pile of BS... Go get an English version of Mein Kampf... Read it, then go out and read Trumps speeches.

Then while your at it, read Project 2025. You are in for a Shock..

Then when your done with that, go read the number of times Trump is quoted saying he doesn't have anything to do with Project 2025. Then look at the guys that helped write it being proposed to be in his Cabinet.

You can sit there until the cows come home saying he's not Hitler, but you are just fooling yourself. Those that are supporting him are no better than Hitlers generals who at a later date wanted to kill him...

^ TDS is real. ^

Quite true. That's why so many voted for him. They all have TDS.

He also mentioned the MAGA supporters. You know thr 74 millions people who ended up voting for Trump.

Would you please provide the quote where he called them an enemy within our own country or anything comparable to that? Once again you're trying to create a false narrative.