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Can he play QB?

Could he do any worse at QB?

I mean there is a possibility, but I don't think the odds favor him being worse.

Chubb is the best

We don't deserve Chubb. Well, actually, we the fans do. Those who run the team don't deserve Chubb.

We need to make Chubb out QB! The attitude upgrade alone in replacing DW would be an improvement. Our Oline needs weeded. He won't allow his own failure, and he does make everyone around him better.

Bai-ley Zaaaaap-pe <clap> <clap> <clap clap clap>

Why not lol

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The Browns must keep Bailey Zappe on their active roster at least 3 weeks after poaching him from Chiefs PS. Which means DTR’s injury is multiple weeks.

Grossi with the rare helpful piece of insight. What a world we're living in.

If people doubted the end/fall of civilization, well, this is akin to one of the seals of Revelations being broken

This the same zappe that looked like a probowler against us a few years ago? I didn't even know he was still in the league

Winston will probably make our offense look better because we'll revert back to KS type play calling/scheme ... more under center/PA stuff

From a purely "scientific" standpoint, I am SO interested to see how our offense does if we revert it back. I wonder how much of the headscratching stuff (ex. Oline getting manhandled, Oline making dumb penalties at horrible times, receivers not getting open, etc.) will magically start to disappear when we go back to a familiar system.

I don't think everything will magically disappear. I think losing Callahan makes a big difference in terms of the OL play. But I think we will see some improvements.

Whatever the results from here on it's too little too late and a wasted season, unless of course we can go 9-1 the rest of the way. I wouldn't put the house on it....

I don't disagree with you in terms of the season. I've never played sports on anything close to this level. I just know I was always taught that you play to do your best to win each game. Now maybe at this point the strategy is to put yourself in a position to get the best draft pick. I have no idea either way about that.

But the season tells a story. Each game is a part of that story. Much like the chapters of a book. In this case I think it will help tell us whether the team simply wasn't motivated with watson at QB. I think it will tell if this team was built with players that are a better fit for the Stefanski style of O or the Dorsey style that seems to be set up for watson.

I know that all of us were hoping for an improvement over last season and that story has already been written. The ending of that part of the story doesn't have the ending we were all hoping for. But the rest of the chapters left in this book of the 2024 season have more of the story than just the final chapter tells us. I'm sure some people don't care about the rest of the story but I'm also sure that a lot of people do.

The Browns have a dilemma right now. Do we do our best and try to win as many games as we can or tank for the best draft position. I myself favor the former but that's me. I want them to play the best they can and win as many as possible. Let's see if the O-scheme with DW was a big part of the problem. That's how I feel. Others may feel differently.

Kevin turning over plai calling:

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...ffense-and-deshaun-watson-sidelined.html

I know folks have been calling for this for a long time, but I find the timing to be a real head-scratcher. To me, this means they are committing to the offensive system that they started installing this offseason.

make it make sense?? Dorsey was Brough in to help WATSON

Watson goes down, we are turning to Jameis (who would be a good fit in Kevin's offense) ... and then Kevin turns over the duty to Dorsey??

So weird

The timing of this play call switch (midseason and after Watson goes down) doesn't make a whole lot of sense, except for maybe the idea KS might have been told he has to.

Hines was caught in a numbers crunch when it comes to being able to return, but thats another wasted signing

I hate to sound all tin-foil hat, but the first thought I had was setting up Dorsey to be the fall-guy and/or let him work out in front more in order to help his resume (i.e. he ain't coming back).

I'd think more the latter than the former.

With how the offense has gone so far, it's really the same thing, though... right?

Fall guy seems more sinister. Knowing you are done for the season and letting some get experience knowing you'll need to move on is not.

So we're at that point in the season they've just decided to be nice and let the people they are going to fire get some experience at their jobs?

So we're at the point in the season it is everyone for themselves and the back stabbing has commenced?

If Dorsey is here because of Watson and Watson is done then getting him ready to move on is the peoplecentric move, much like letting Callahan walk.

There is one huge difference here. Dorsey accepted the job knowing Stefanski would be calling the plays. That was baked in the job description. Whether the browns let him call plays now in no way reflects good or bad for the Browns in future staff hires. The browns have nothing to gain by letting him call the plays.

Letting Callahan go to the titans and work with his son wasn't just some "peoplecentric move". Not allowing him to leave would have reflected poorly on the browns as an organization which could very well impact the ability in future hires. The browns didn't just let Callahan go out of the goodness of heir heart. You seem to forget what does and does not motivate corporations to do the things they do and don't do.

I was being facetious more than anything else.

Just really weird timing.

preparing for the Stefanski firing during the by-week.

Sounds like Stefanski saying " This is the offense you want, have at it" or he was ordered to.

Browns and weird go together.

At 1-6, the Browns have reached the “throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks” portion of the season.

After Sunday's performance and how the team has looked all season, they should fire Ken Dorsey and his entire staff. Then Bubba Ventrone and his staff. The offense has sucked all year, and the entire problem has not been DeShaun Watson. We have an Offensive Line that cannot block, and it is just not Watson holding the ball too long. Just ask our Running backs! Ask the officials that throw flags on this unit every other down. We have wide receivers that lead the league in dropped passes. What else can be said there. Receivers that cannot catch. Then the Special teams have basically lost 2 games so far this year Vegas and Cincy. Players have regressed all over the field but particularly on offense and special teams.