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“We’re not changing qb’s”

Zero problemo, then change coaches who will change qb’s.

Bench KS

I truly don't think KS has the power to make that call. It's above his pay grade and his superior (actually, his superior's superior) is making that call).

I bet if we give KS some truth serum, he would explain how Watson was forced on him and simply doesn't work here (among many other things)

This is NOT me saying KS doesn't deserve some blame ... he does. The team is unprepared and undisciplined. Unmotivated. Teetering on quitting.

I agree. I'm dreading what this is going to become now. We are going to be BAD. Fans will get divided. We will have no light at the end of the tunnel for years IMO

of the MANY concerns I have with Watson, the fact that he is NO better than his very first start with us is damning

Every single time he scrambled or took a hit, I was HOPING he would get injured so that the decision would be taken out of the team's hands.

Thats pretty dark imo. We have enough injuries without need to wish for more. All those clamoring for the back up QB.. must not have spent much time watching them play when they've had a chance.. Not to mention, if you think this staff wouldn't bench Watson if there was a better choice with the team at 1-4 then you seriously know nothing about NFL and self preservation.

Yes, it's still funny. He's the third string emergency QB. As it should be. If you bench your starter you in turn start the backup. That's Winston.

That's an odd thing to post. Last year watson only played 5 games and three different backups including one coming off his couch led this team to the playoffs.


By staff you must mean coaching staff. That's true if you think benching watson is actually their decision to make.

This team played with a fire in their belly last season. They took what looked like an impossible situation and turned that into making the playoffs. Stefanski didn't forget how to coach since last season and many of our players didn't forget how to play the game since then either.

But something has taken the fire out of them. When your team played harder for a guy that was pulled off of his couch than they do the $230 million dollar man by leaps and bounds, that should tell you something. If you believe you can't win with your QB it takes the motivation right out of you. Even the defense. How many games do you think they believe they can win when your QB can't put 20 points on the board?

j/c…

This franchise will never win with Haslam. He meddles and thinks he knows what he’s doing. I suspect the son-in-law is just as bad. Watson will play until Jimmy says it’s ok to bench if that ever comes.

That statement by Stefanski speaks volumes.

yeah I did expect you to make a huge reach.. Having the number 1 defense last year had nothing to do with that huh... and you act like ANYONE expected flacco to do what he did based on his last year.. No, last year was a fluke and this year proves it.. again.. blaming one person for all that is wrong with this team is just asinine

yeah I read this more to be a Berry issue, and I'll agree and modify. We will never win with Berry/Depo

Do you think the defense has confidence in winning ages with a QB who can't put 20 points on the board? Let's take a look at that shall we?

You have a point in the first game Flacco started last season. Flacco performed poorly in his first start off the couch. The Browns only put 20 points on the board. Something they haven't managed to do thus far this entire season.

In Flacco's second start we put up 34 points against the Texans. The Texans scored 22 points. Once again a total the Browns haven't managed to score all season.

In Flacco's third start the Browns put 37 points up against the Jets.

So flacco was by no means perfect but this O was MUCH more productive with him at QB.


And yet he did. He's actually playing pretty well this season too. If you wish to talk about expectations are you trying to say that ANYONE expected watson to play this bad?


Are you still talking about flacco? Because his stats this year are........

Oh no, you're trying to blame it on Stefanski again. He was named coach of the year twice already. That wasn't a fluke.


There are more issues than one. I'm just pointing out the biggest one. When you've been wounded in battle you always start the triage by addressing the most serious wound first.

I’m listening to Stefanski and we come to the point I can’t take him seriously any longer. He lives in an alternative universe from reality.

‘I understand that question”
“I talk to Andrew, I talk to ownership”
“We make great decisions together”
‘We need to play better”
‘I need to coach better”

Great decisions = 1-4 and a QB grade of 8.5 with you as a play caller, less than 20 point in 5 games in a row and as a HC you have being part of the worst trade in the history of NFL.

Sorry Kevin! You lost me today because right now even a blind Chimpanzee could have gave better answers.

All he did in his own way with his own words was tell us that whether to start watson wasn't his decision alone. So if you want to keep your job are you going to bad mouth your empleyers in the press?

The teams problems are not all about one player.... But DW has played like poo in all but about 3 games as a Brown. Not sure why you would try to defend or deflect from his performance.

First of all he didn’t seem to be that bothered with our bad results. Just another day at the office for the second smartest guy in the room.

Secondly the way the Cleveland journalists ask questions is beyond pathetic. Dumb and Dumber could have done better.

I don’t expect him to sell out the guys above him but there’s different ways to approach a press conference without sounding like he’s verbally handicapped and can only delivering meaningless snow mash.

Good lord, Stefanski sounds like Pit working his way around an issue.

yet we were 9-3 with him. I'm not defending or deflecting anything. Its all you Watson haters that refuse to accept its not all about him.. There is ALOT of issues on the offensive side of the ball. You are picking Watson as a scapegoat. I'm not ready to lay all the blame at his feet until the receivers start catching and the line starts blocking and we actually try to run the ball. If all those things are happening and he's still not doing well.. then yeah its a problem. But changing the QB with all those issues solves nothing. But moreso, if the fix to everything is on the bench and just needs the coaches to play him and we aren't doing that then what does that say about them? Because at 1-4 and the season is now garbage time, what do they have to lose. I'd love for them to trot out Winterception. If provides a spark, great. roll with it. But if he comes out and starts turning the ball over like he does, its going to look alot worse.