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Anyone blaming Watson at this point just hates him and it don’t matter what he does will always hate him
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If Berry isn’t willing to accept some sorts of failure regarding the Watson experiment then it will also going to ruin a part of his reputation.
Making stupid decisions is one thing but be too stubborn to not make some changes is way worse.
Both our GM and our HC probably has long careers in front of them so correcting some of the mistakes at least looks better on their CVs then to do nothing at all.
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Can you imagine being on the Defense and sitting on the bench watching this pathetic offense knowing you have to go back out AGAIN after being on the field all game? I'd be so pissed.
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Our O line is getting shredded.
This game could have ended at halftime, as far as I'm concerned.
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Anyone blaming Watson at this point just hates him and it don’t matter what he does will always hate him To me Watson had a terrible day.. but the Oline dont help, the playcalling sucks.. receivers drop balls.. and Stefanski/Dorsey putting in this offense has blown the team up.. So I dont blame just Watson
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Name a worse oline in football. Cannot. We went from first to last. Is that all Callahan? Is that possible?
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Anyone blaming Watson at this point just hates him and it don’t matter what he does will always hate him He's literally the worst starting QB statistically we've in the entire KS era. He's worse than Case Keenum.
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Joe Flacco
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31/41 249 6.1 2 0 3-18 106.7
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Anyone blaming Watson at this point just hates him and it don’t matter what he does will always hate him In fairness, there not a lot to like. He’s a rapist and a scumbag. We were fine with all that. It wasn’t until he blew at QB that anyone cared. I’m done with this POS. And I will not be excited about this team until he is gone.
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Keenum was a lot better. Johnny Manziel bad. Brady Quinn bad. Weeden bad.
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Joe Flacco
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31/41 249 6.1 2 0 3-18 106.7 Statistically the BEST starting QB we've had under KS. But we ran him out of town due to $240M.
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Flacco has thrown for 295 yards today and 3 td. We got rid of him because watson didn't want him here. This is what we get
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Atta boy Browns, keep your starters in a blowout game so they can get hurt!
Browns is the Browns
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This is bs. Dan Campbell just screwed is fans over by not keeping the gas going. We needed a 50 point blowout to give Jimmy the rationale necessary to get rid of this staff tonight.
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Atta boy Browns, keep your starters in a blowout game so they can get hurt!
Browns is the Browns If it means we can bench #4, is it the worst thing if he gets hurt? Some say no....
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Do we lead the league in offensive timeouts after offensive penalties?
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I can not wait for the press conference today.
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Perfect. Now they can justify staring him for the rest of the year.
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Anyone blaming Watson at this point just hates him and it don’t matter what he does will always hate him He's literally the worst starting QB statistically we've in the entire KS era. He's worse than Case Keenum. no.. he was 9-3 going into this season..
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I can not wait for the press conference today. "We have to get better", "The guys played hard today". "This loss is on me"
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I can not wait for the press conference today. "We have to get better", "The guys played hard today". "This loss is on me" He will say those tired phrases but our media will not hold him to task!!.. No one asks Stefanski the hard questions and let him give those B.S answers
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The front office treated Baker and Flacco like crap even though they both played well (except when Baker was hurt) and gave everything they had, but Berry seems to prefer guys like Watson, Winston, Huntley, DTR, Walker, Dobbs, etc. I hope we use our first round pick, which should be very high, to get the most talented QB coming out.
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The front office treated Baker and Flacco like crap even though they both played well (except when Baker was hurt) and gave everything they had, but Berry seems to prefer guys like Watson, Winston, Huntley, DTR, Walker, Dobbs, etc. I hope we use our first round pick, which should be very high, to get the most talented QB coming out. At this point, I’m not sure I trust Berry/Haslam at all in the upcoming draft.
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Anyone blaming Watson at this point just hates him and it don’t matter what he does will always hate him He's literally the worst starting QB statistically we've in the entire KS era. He's worse than Case Keenum. no.. he was 9-3 going into this season.. Yes, he actually is. https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/2085243/browns-qbs-under-stefanski#Post2085243
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The front office treated Baker and Flacco like crap even though they both played well (except when Baker was hurt) and gave everything they had, but Berry seems to prefer guys like Watson, Winston, Huntley, DTR, Walker, Dobbs, etc. I hope we use our first round pick, which should be very high, to get the most talented QB coming out. Whatever decision AB makes at the QB position. It's guaranteed to be 180 degrees out of phase with anything that makes sense. We never should have traded for Watson. Winston is trash too. We had our QB last year. Joe Flacco. Berry didn't want him. KS offense runs best with a Kirk Cousins / Joe Flacco / Baker Mayfield (before he got hurt). Then pair them with an elite RB like Chubb or Dalvin Cook etc. Watson + Stefanski = square peg in round hole. So is Winston. So is DTR. If that's all Berry is going to bring in, might as well fire Kevin.
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yeah.. stats are for losers without context.. but you watson haters just won't get beyond them the fact you said Case Keenum..with 2 starts, proves my point.. so look at watson before he came here.. I'll wait.. I haven't seen a single QB play well BECAUSE of stefanski.
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
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Stats are for losers. Right. More like facts are hard to swallow.
And don't come at me with weak excuses like sample size, when I said something both factual and tongue in cheek, about Keenum.
Fine, only look at QB's with at least 5 starts (I pick 5 so there's 4 QB's on the list instead of 3).
Watson is still dead last behind Flacco, Mayfield and Jacoby freaking Brissett.
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Berry and Depodesta need to be shown the door. I hated this deal from day one. I don’t think the Browns could have been any more successful at selecting an absolutely deplorable human being to lead our team. And to further stoke my boiler the degenerate that they chose isn’t worth a tinkers dam on the gridiron. It’s going to take 10 years to recover from what all this team piddled away. This season is finished. Going from 1-4 to the playoffs is never going to happen with this gang.
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The difference between how we played last season and now is staggering. Absolutely shocking development.
We’re five games into the season and it’s just getting worse and worse. Almost the whole team has regressed and our HC seems to be totally without ideas.
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The difference is that Flacco is a different style of QB and QB that can read a defense.
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Through all the terrible seasons, I never questioned my fandom.
Through 1-31, despite the frustration I didn't
Then when we signed Eatson and I cancelled my Sunday Ticket
He didn't play the 1st 12 games in 2022 so he didn't really impact that season
He got injured missing the last 12 games last year, the last half of which was so much fun
Honestly I hate watching this team
Not only do they suck, but I don't enjoy rooting for them
Even if they win, I get little to no enjoyment
I'll be honest, this season I have question myself
Stay with the Browns, find another team, or just quite the NFL altogether
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Am I perfect? No
Am I trying to be a better person?
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The offensive play is just offensive.
"Jameis Winston: guaranteed to throw 6 TD's/game. Tune in next week to see which team benefits-"
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