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Am I the only person who can't believe the US Supreme Court has NO enforceable Ethics Code. Are these guys and gals considered Gods. They are accountable to NO ONE except themselves. " I find it telling the first black female Supreme Court Justice is the ONLY Justice who has come out publicly in support of ENFORCEABLE Code. Here is her quote- "Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said she does not "have any problem" with an enforceable ethics code for the Supreme Court, as the nation's highest court continues to face questions over its ethics practices amid calls from Democrats for stricter rules. "
Do it seem strange a black Democratic selection would be the first to support ethics in US Supreme Court.....where be those Law and Order Republicans?
Ethics, no more free vacations, etc, etc, etc?
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There needs to be an ethics code - especially since attorneys all have one in each state, and we all have to pass a separate ethics bar.
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They will have a new ethics standard if Kamala gets a super majority, bank that. I don’t think she has Joe’s patience for obvious SCOTUS corruption.
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It's not enforceable and it leaves it up to them to police themselves with no outside interference. You know, like internal affairs used to do with the police. Until they had to start bringing in outside independent investigators and the DOJ to investigate the police because when you allow people to police themselves it never works out well.
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It's not enforceable and it leaves it up to them to police themselves with no outside interference. You know, like internal affairs used to do with the police. Until they had to start bringing in outside independent investigators and the DOJ to investigate the police because when you allow people to police themselves it never works out well. Or the House and Senate?
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Everyone of those bodies should have oversight concerning ethics and actually I would add decorum which should be punishable. Also a standard for being able to launch congressional investigations. Both sides abuse their powers and get away with it.
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Everyone of those bodies should have oversight concerning ethics and actually I would add decorum which should be punishable. Also a standard for being able to launch congressional investigations. Both sides abuse their powers and get away with it. How does that work with three coequal branches? I wonder if there is anything in COTUS for this.
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Even if Congress passes a law, the Supreme Court could just rule that it is unconstitutional. A constitutional amendment would have to be passed
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I'm not sure how it would work. I do however know that I think the majority of people would agree that it's needed.
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Yeah, the "how" may be difficult, but I think it's necessary nonetheless.
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Thanks for posting that, the issue is they enforce themselves-- ie, no enforcement....if they violate this/their code what happens? I'm ticked off about Chief Justice Thomas, who seems to have been BOUGHT by billionaire "friends" who give him and his wonderful wife free trips to lots of places. JMHO, Power and Money corrupt= and if there is no punishment for corrupt behavior it becomes worse. Thomas and others should have to answer for their conduct, however the way to make that happen doesn't exist-- unless someone else knows I'm wrong AND I could be.....anyone know.
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Read all the posts- I agree we probably need a constitutional amendment to hold the US Supreme Court accountable for conduct unbecoming--- another problem, so a Justice is brought up....who is on the jury and does it go to the Supreme Court to kick them- or he/she off the Court.....a real bucket of worms.
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Thanks for posting that, the issue is they enforce themselves-- ie, no enforcement....if they violate this/their code what happens? I'm ticked off about Chief Justice Thomas, who seems to have been BOUGHT by billionaire "friends" who give him and his wonderful wife free trips to lots of places. JMHO, Power and Money corrupt= and if there is no punishment for corrupt behavior it becomes worse. Thomas and others should have to answer for their conduct, however the way to make that happen doesn't exist-- unless someone else knows I'm wrong AND I could be.....anyone know. The Chief Justice is Roberts, not Thomas. Thomas is, IIRC, the longest tenured one.
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Read all the posts- I agree we probably need a constitutional amendment to hold the US Supreme Court accountable for conduct unbecoming--- another problem, so a Justice is brought up....who is on the jury and does it go to the Supreme Court to kick them- or he/she off the Court.....a real bucket of worms. Congress can impeach and convict Justices.
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My bad- you are correct, I knew that......I'm completely against billionaires or anyone else controlling Justices and it sure seems Justice Thomas is controlled thru money by Billionaire Crow....this from "ProPublica reported that Thomas accepted luxury travel from Crow virtually every year for decades, including international superyacht cruises and private jet flights around the world. Crow also paid money to Thomas and his relatives in an undisclosed real estate deal, ProPublica found. After he purchased the house where Thomas’ mother lives, Crow poured tens of thousands of dollars into improving the property. And roughly 15 years ago, Crow donated much of the budget of a political group founded by Thomas’ wife, which paid her a $120,000 salary.
“This is way outside the norm. This is way in excess of anything I’ve seen,” said Richard Painter, former chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, referring to the cascade of gifts over the years.
Painter said that when he was at the White House, an official who’d taken what Thomas had would have been fired: “This amount of undisclosed gifts? You’d want to get them out of the government.”
A federal law passed after Watergate requires justices and other officials to publicly report most gifts. Ethics law experts told ProPublica they believed Thomas was required by law to disclose the tuition payments because they appear to be a gift to him.
Justices also must report many gifts to their spouses and dependent children. The law’s definition of dependent child is narrow, however, and likely would not apply to Martin since Thomas was his legal guardian, not his parent. The best case for not disclosing Crow’s tuition payments would be to argue the gifts were to Martin, not Thomas, experts said.
But that argument was far-fetched, experts said, because minor children rarely pay their own tuition. Typically, the legal guardian is responsible for the child’s education." Thomas also accepted at least $160,000 dollars for nephew's education---- taxe free and unreported.
How many other Justices are bought and paid for.....I don't care about his, Thomas's wife, complaining Washington is expensive and Justices don't make enough....BS...Thomas and his wife should be in JAIL for tax evasion......corruption all over Washington. PS. Crow should be jailed too.
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My guess is Congress, who should deal with this, doesn't want to because it might expose bits no one wants exposed.
The fussing about the court is not new, and isnt really about integrity.
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Read all the posts- I agree we probably need a constitutional amendment to hold the US Supreme Court accountable for conduct unbecoming--- another problem, so a Justice is brought up....who is on the jury and does it go to the Supreme Court to kick them- or he/she off the Court.....a real bucket of worms. Congress can impeach and convict Justices. Not going to happen in 2024. A 2/3rds majority is required. Dead in the water, so they won't even try.
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Read all the posts- I agree we probably need a constitutional amendment to hold the US Supreme Court accountable for conduct unbecoming--- another problem, so a Justice is brought up....who is on the jury and does it go to the Supreme Court to kick them- or he/she off the Court.....a real bucket of worms. Congress can impeach and convict Justices. Not going to happen in 2024. A 2/3rds majority is required. Dead in the water, so they won't even try. Which is a clue to how easy it would be to add some external body to enforce ethics on the court.
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