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When asked what specific legislation he would support to make it affordable, Trump replied with a meandering 360-word response that largely failed to address the question.


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Just as JD Vance’s response to the rising cost of childcare spurred blowback on Thursday, Donald Trump may have one-upped him during a question-and-answer session when he responded to a similar prompt with a meandering 360-word statement with vague declarations, including that he “want[s] to stay with childcare.”

A day after his running mate said that parents should look to family members for help and called for the elimination of “ridiculous” certifications that childcare workers must obtain, Trump was asked a question along the same lines while at the prestigious Economic Club of New York.

Reshma Saujani, founder of the nonprofit organization Girls Who Code, prefaced her question by noting that childcare outpaces inflation and costs the economy more than $122 billion annually.

“If you win in November,” she wondered, “can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make childcare affordable, and, if so, what specific piece of legislation will you advance?”


Over the course of his nearly two-minute response, which anchor Anderson Cooper called “word salad” during a segment on CNN, Trump didn’t mention any such legislation.

Instead, he left viewers with lingering questions about how exactly he would go about bringing down child care costs.

“Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down—you know, I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that—because look, child care is childcare, it’s—couldn’t, you know, it’s something, you have to have it, in this country you have to have it.

But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to—but they’ll get used to it very quickly—and it’s not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including childcare, that it’s going to take care.

We’re gonna have—I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with childcare. I want to stay with childcare, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just—that I just told you about.

We’re gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as childcare is talked about as being expensive, it’s relatively speaking not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we’ll be taking in. We’re gonna make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we’ll worry about the rest of the world.

Let’s help other people, but we’re going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about ‘Make America Great Again.’

We have to do it because right now we’re a failing nation, so we’ll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you.”

That response was highlighted later by Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign, which has proposed re-expanding the Child Tax Credit on top of a $6,000 tax credit for new parents.

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That's twice he's been asked point blank about easing the every-day burden on the middle class and he's fumbled the answer. The first time around he was asked by one of his supporters and rambled like crazy on that one, too. The truth is he doesn't have an answer. He has no clue what it's like to be in that position.

I don't really know what Kamala's plans are either. The truth of the matter is that the middle class has been getting screwed repeatedy throughout the years. It has been a "boil the frog" approach where they get bilked out of things little by little. Right now, the water is boiling. The consumer pricing has been bad obviously, but if you look at the cost of childcare, college education, and other necessary services, they have all gone through the roof to the point where the average person is really struggling to make ends meet.

That has wholly been the product of the corrupt political elites beating the hell out of us for decades now.


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WOW... But the numbers and the numbers....Biggest numbers ever...nothing to worry about if you believe the numbers I am not naming.



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There were people in the audience who actually applauded Trump's answer, proving that the logic used by comedian WC Fields still works...

... “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bs.” ― W.C. Fields




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The rambling isn't really a surprise. This line concerns me:

"I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to"

...because that will be great for the CPI. And diplomatic relations. And the economy in general.

The man really is all about trying to make other people pay for things.

Increased tariffs would probably just get baked into prices and passed onto consumers. If he tries not to allow that, they'll just trade elsewhere. And I have no faith in his Administration's usage of any taxes anyways even if prices didn't go up and goods remained flowing at previous quantities (which makes little to no sense for the sellers.)

I further worry about such a move's effect on the US dollar remaining the "currency of the world." Less countries trading with us, less stability for the value of the dollar.

Most of the world already thinks of the US as a nation of brash, greedy egomaniacs with more brawn than brains. But we do "carry a big stick." I'm not sure Trump's "We're (I'm) great, you have to trade with us" approach would get the response he thinks, though.

Trump needs to step down just as bad as Biden did. Alas, he is a brash, greedy egomaniac, though with more flab than brawn or brains.

No idea who they'd even consider replacing him with. Would be hard to find worse.


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Its hard to find any actual policy on any of trumps ramblings, but I looked up the proposed tariffs and what trump has said in this election cycle.
There are a couple articles that say there would be a 10% across the board and a 60% tariff on China.

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From an article on Newsweek, there is a comparison on proposed child care and family policies.

Trump told the panel of business leaders that his plans to increase taxes on imports could "take care" of rising costs like child care.

So an additional regressive tax on families is going to help. That may be the stupidest answer I have ever heard.

From the article about Harris plan to address child care;
The Democratic ticket has offered more specific examples of how they plan to slash the cost of child care and other familial expenses. While on the campaign trail, Vice President Kamala Harris has touted her work under the Biden administration to establish a national paid family leave, plans for universal preschool programs and efforts to invest billions in federal money to assist in child care costs.

She has also outlined plans to increase the child tax credit, which sits at $2,000 per child, up to $3,600, and offer families with newborns up to $6,000 in the first year of the child's life. Speaking to supporters at a rally in North Carolina last month, Harris said that a child's first year is a "vital year of critical development of a child, and the costs can really add up, especially for young parents who need to buy diapers and clothes and a car seat and so much else."

And Vance has also weighed in on how he would address the problem to Charlie Kirk
Vance suggested that one way to "relieve a little bit of pressure" on families is by making it easier for a family member to stay home with a child rather than having to pay for day care, telling Kirk: "Maybe Grandma or Grandpa wants to help out a little bit more, or maybe there's an aunt or uncle that wants to help out a little bit more. If that happens, you relieve some of the pressure on all the resources that we're spending on day care."

Walz while governor of Minnesota already enacted some policy at the state level.
Harris' running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, has also made familial expenses a priority in his administration. His state has one of the largest child tax credits in the nation, offering up to $1,750 per child. Walz also signed a bill last year that provided partial wage replacement for up to 20 weeks of leave for parents or others who have to take time off to care for a family member.

Vance and trump supposedly would support a child tax credit increase, however when a vote came up in the senate last month to raise the tax credit to covid era levels, Vance did not show up to vote for it-and it did not pass the senate.


https://www.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-kamala-harris-child-care-family-policies-differ-1949664

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So Vance thinks that parents with family willing to help with their childcare are now paying for daycare? His answer to rising childcare costs are to *Just have grandma do it!" Dear Lord.


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Sure sounds that way-trump must have picked him to make himself somehow look smart

I was just going through reddit-some of the replies to this are pure gold-


https://www.reddit.com/r/workingmoms/comments/1f9w9p1/jd_vance_proves_hes_an_idiot_with_answer_on/

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A six year degree to be a daycare worker? saywhat


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Originally Posted by northlima dawg
Dawglover05,
From an article on Newsweek, there is a comparison on proposed child care and family policies.

Trump told the panel of business leaders that his plans to increase taxes on imports could "take care" of rising costs like child care.

So an additional regressive tax on families is going to help. That may be the stupidest answer I have ever heard.

From the article about Harris plan to address child care;
The Democratic ticket has offered more specific examples of how they plan to slash the cost of child care and other familial expenses. While on the campaign trail, Vice President Kamala Harris has touted her work under the Biden administration to establish a national paid family leave, plans for universal preschool programs and efforts to invest billions in federal money to assist in child care costs.

She has also outlined plans to increase the child tax credit, which sits at $2,000 per child, up to $3,600, and offer families with newborns up to $6,000 in the first year of the child's life. Speaking to supporters at a rally in North Carolina last month, Harris said that a child's first year is a "vital year of critical development of a child, and the costs can really add up, especially for young parents who need to buy diapers and clothes and a car seat and so much else."

And Vance has also weighed in on how he would address the problem to Charlie Kirk
Vance suggested that one way to "relieve a little bit of pressure" on families is by making it easier for a family member to stay home with a child rather than having to pay for day care, telling Kirk: "Maybe Grandma or Grandpa wants to help out a little bit more, or maybe there's an aunt or uncle that wants to help out a little bit more. If that happens, you relieve some of the pressure on all the resources that we're spending on day care."

Walz while governor of Minnesota already enacted some policy at the state level.
Harris' running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, has also made familial expenses a priority in his administration. His state has one of the largest child tax credits in the nation, offering up to $1,750 per child. Walz also signed a bill last year that provided partial wage replacement for up to 20 weeks of leave for parents or others who have to take time off to care for a family member.

Vance and trump supposedly would support a child tax credit increase, however when a vote came up in the senate last month to raise the tax credit to covid era levels, Vance did not show up to vote for it-and it did not pass the senate.


https://www.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-kamala-harris-child-care-family-policies-differ-1949664

Thanks Lima. I had not seen that. Very interesting stuff.

So let me get this straight on Vance...his solution is for people to have the grandparents move in???


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Originally Posted by northlima dawg
Sure sounds that way-trump must have picked him to make himself somehow look smart

I was just going through reddit-some of the replies to this are pure gold-


https://www.reddit.com/r/workingmoms/comments/1f9w9p1/jd_vance_proves_hes_an_idiot_with_answer_on/

I think what bothers me about a lot of the Republicans that are of the Vance banner is that on one hand, they are very anti-abortion and whatnot, which is what it is, and then they are also harping on the fact that people with children should be the ones making all the decisions, even going so far as to say people with children should have more votes.

But then, on the other hand, they don't want to pass anything that helps families with kids...


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Which is why they should rebrand it as "pro birth" and not "pro life". The life of a child extends to the 18 years after their born. Not just their birth. I think you pretty much nailed it there.

They want everyone who gets pregnant to give birth. Then those same people complain about welfare moms, single parent homes as we see in the Everything Else forum now and are pulling money out of the public school systems to pay for their own children's private education.

It's as if they just love to complain about the situation they themselves are helping to perpetuate and worsen with no solutions offered to solve it.


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I have a number of things to say:

1. Sounds like he's getting ready to debate Kamala.

2. The answers some gave on here are typical D answers: Basically, have the gov't. take over, i.e. spend money.

3. If you don't think inflation hits everyone of us, you're just ignorant (not the original poster). Inflation is a killer. When it goes out of control, it doesn't come back down. Everyone needs a raise because the price of everything else has gone up. Self fulfilling.

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Thanks for addressing the childcare issue.


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I did. You just can't see it I guess. Inflation. When the price of everything goes up, it hits most of us. Child care included. You seem to want the gov't. to spend more to combat it. Where would the gov't. get the money?

The gov't. isn't the answer to every problem. Often times, they are the reason for the problem.

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Is it just me or do these guys, Trump and Vance, remind you of an old movie----"Dumb and Dumber".


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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Where would the gov't. get the money?

From the numbers they make numbers great again. Then child care cost go down. He has it all figured out. The child care numbers are not a big deal.



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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
I did. You just can't see it I guess. Inflation. When the price of everything goes up, it hits most of us. Child care included. You seem to want the gov't. to spend more to combat it. Where would the gov't. get the money?

The gov't. isn't the answer to every problem. Often times, they are the reason for the problem.

Childcare cost, just like healthcare costs and college education costs have been skyrocketing for a very long time now. For many years even when inflation was virtually stagnant. I'm all for finding any solutions you or anyone else can offer as to a reasonable way to keep those costs lower.

I would like to hear your explanation as to why people think women should be forced to give birth by calling it pro life while at the same time objecting to programs that help these mothers after those children are born? Is their birth the point that the very people who forced their beliefs on them to have children abandon those same children? Is that the problems you think the party you support has caused? That somehow it's mothers and their children that should suffer while huge amounts of money are being wasted on government contractors?

You see, I understand the point you're trying to make and in a lot of cases I would agree with you. But these issue with the things I mentioned is that the costs of all of them have been skyrocketing long before this country was having an inflation problem so it simply doesn't apply in these particular cases.

I don't disagree with you that increased government spending isn't the best solution by far. But what I do think is we should prioritize where spending should be focused and where spending should be cut. Continued tax cuts and those tax cuts that have been handed out to the most wealthy and corporations may be the place to stop the bleeding and to have placed that money where it would have actually done the Aamerican people as a whole the most good.

And yes I know, raising their taxes at this point would only be passed down to the consumer. But what we also know is at no time when they were given these huge tax breaks did any of what they saved on taxes ever get passed back down to the consumer.

I'm pretty tired of that one way street. Aren't you?


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Here's the thing. The cost of childcare has been a problem for a long time, and that goes beyond daycare, to things like the daily essentials. I remember going from DINK status to when my first kid was born. What a real punch in the face that was financially. I used to joke that I would experience a big pay raise when my kids stopped wearing diapers.

But to the point, even predating the hyper-inflation, childcare costs and other costs for the middle class had become a huge problem. Inflation just exacerbated something that had already existed. Maintaining a healthy middle class is Country Stability 101. At no point in the post-industrial age has it worked out well for a country when their middle class shrank. To accomplish this, you traditionally have two levers to pull (in a simpler sense). One, the liberal method which is more of a universal benefits approach involving higher taxes, more government involvement, but higher benefits. On the other hand, the conservative approach is less government involvement, less taxes and more empowerment to the middle class.

Things like tax cuts and tax credits are actually a fairly common conservative approach. I tend to be in line with fiscal conservative policies and less spending. It would have been a perfectly fine idea for one of the candidates who identifies as conservative to proffer tax cuts or credits to address the rampant problem, being childcare, and then offsetting that reduction in revenue elsewhere either in spending or by eliminating tax cuts in sectors that no longer need them - and believe me - those exist. But that's not what we have here. We have a guy who said "Just have Grandma and Grandpa move in." Gee thanks for your valued input, JD.

Moreover, we have to refocus the lens. It seems that a lot of the criticism falls to the consumer or the average person when it comes to Government bailouts or Government spending. That myopically misses the rampant corporate bailouts that we see all over the place. They went off the rails in 2008 and they are still seen today. I see corporate welfare constantly in the defense sector. That was essentially the final straw for me leaving the Republicans is that hypocrisy about why we can't have handouts to people, but then bail out corporations that should have been left to fail via their own malfeasance. Oh, and on top of that, they cut tax revenue, but pass budgets that push the debt/deficit soaring. Trump was among the worst in that regard during his presidency. Not conservative.

On the specific topic at hand, I do look at Walz and Harris and I do raise an eyebrow wondering how they are going to fund some of these things, but then I look at Trump and Vance and think "I don't think they even know there's a problem, or maybe they just don't care."


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Trumps policies are simple. He has a policy of putting down the opposition’s political policy without actually addressing them himself. And the lowly Gopers gobble that [censored] up.


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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
The rambling isn't really a surprise. This line concerns me:

"I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to"

...because that will be great for the CPI. And diplomatic relations. And the economy in general.

The man really is all about trying to make other people pay for things.

Increased tariffs would probably just get baked into prices and passed onto consumers. If he tries not to allow that, they'll just trade elsewhere. And I have no faith in his Administration's usage of any taxes anyways even if prices didn't go up and goods remained flowing at previous quantities (which makes little to no sense for the sellers.)

I further worry about such a move's effect on the US dollar remaining the "currency of the world." Less countries trading with us, less stability for the value of the dollar.

Most of the world already thinks of the US as a nation of brash, greedy egomaniacs with more brawn than brains. But we do "carry a big stick." I'm not sure Trump's "We're (I'm) great, you have to trade with us" approach would get the response he thinks, though.

Trump needs to step down just as bad as Biden did. Alas, he is a brash, greedy egomaniac, though with more flab than brawn or brains.

No idea who they'd even consider replacing him with. Would be hard to find worse.

The Math on Trumps plans is wrong. He thinks that putting Tariffs on goods coming from other countries is gonna help us. It's not. It's going to raise the price of those goods. Who pays that increase? WE DO... Someone explain to me how that helps with the cost of Child care.

You and I agree on this Bull, he's gotta go. But if your a republican, who do you put in his place? Vance? He may well be even more hated then Trump. I mean, if you got a Problem with Harris Flip Flopping, Vance thought that Trump was HITLER.... and worse, his plan for Child Care is "let family care for Kids"! His actual plan might be worse than Trumps....

Maybe Pence? Or Haley? Haley might have a chance.. Pence, never.

Either way, it would be good for Trump to go away,

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He’s a bucket of fried chicken away from that.


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