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Project 2025 is a conservative playbook for the next repub president, orchestrated by the Heritage Foundation with advisory support from about 100 other organizations
https://www.project2025.org/about/a...YR5WcUoSTkXvs_aem_A2j-iosbXBMs45_2cGCRxg


From the Project 2025-their mission statement
The 2025 Presidential Transition Project paves the way for an effective conservative Administration based on four pillars: a policy agenda, Presidential Personnel Database, Presidential Administration Academy, and playbook for the first 180 days of the next Administration.

Here is a link if you want to read the whole 920 pages
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

What it entails





Project 2025 Is A Blueprint For Business Disaster
Jeff Raikes

Whatever your politics, the extreme, ideologically driven policies being suggested for Trump's second term will undermine democracy, supercharge government corruption, and devastate the American economy.

A Race Few Wanted

Though it's only June, we're already back in presidential election season. This week saw the earliest-ever general election debate in our history, as President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump squared off before their respective party had officially nominated either. One reason both men agreed to this June debate is because the (pre-debate) polls show a neck-and-neck race. For now, many Americans seem unenthused about either candidate, and interest in this election is lower than it's been in two decades.

All that said, I hope everyone – and especially my fellow business leaders – start paying close attention because these two candidates have vastly different visions for America's future, and one of them – Donald J. Trump – is essentially advocating for the end of our democracy and the economic prosperity it drives. Throughout this cycle, Trump has been doubling down on his usual brand of extreme rhetoric – he has called his political opponents "vermin," said immigration is "poisoning the blood of our country," and pledged to be a "dictator" on day one of his second term. It'd be natural to think that Trump is just mouthing off again, except, this time, he has a playbook in hand to accomplish his goals as soon as he gets into office.




Project 2025: A Road Map to Oblivion

That playbook is Project 2025, a 900-page report developed by the Heritage Foundation and a large coalition of conservative groups to help a second Trump presidency hit the ground running. "If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left," its authors opine, "we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on day one of the next conservative administration."


Unfortunately, this Project 2025 agenda is brimming with extremely outside-the-mainstream ideas that threaten to roll back many Americans' fundamental rights and cause grave and perhaps permanent damage to our democratic system of government. Even if you agree with the far-right ideology this report espouses, the policies it advocates will very likely plunge the American economy into a death spiral.


A Litany of Terrible Ideas

Education: America's continued prosperity and competitiveness worldwide rests on its educated workforce, but Project 2025 would defund and dismantle public education purely for ideological reasons. The Project 2025 agenda calls for eliminating a huge number of federal bureaus and departments that offend the far-right worldview. Among them is the Department of Education, which they deem a "convenient one-stop shop for the woke education cartel," Title 1, which provides $18 billion in funding to support low-income students across America," and Head Start, which helps over one million kids gain access to early education. Anything involving diversity, equity, and inclusion is also out, even though studies show that companies with diverse leadership and workforces tend to be more profitable than those without.


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Along with scaling back civil rights enforcement, Project 2025 calls for effectively eliminating federal oversight over education and converting federal funds into block grants and vouchers that families can use at private schools—an idea that has become a fraud-ridden boondoggle wherever it's been tried.




Climate: The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the federal department that tracks hurricanes, is also marked for deletion by Project 2025 because it's "one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry." (One would think the hurricanes are the driver, but nevertheless.) The report also argues that the Environmental Protection Agency should be gutted for similar reasons.

Climate change is already costing the US $150 billion a year, and those costs are expected to grow substantially in the years to come if left unchecked – which is what this report argues for. That's why the Sierra Club calls Project 2025 "a death sentence for federal climate and environmental protections" and "game over for climate progress." At this late date, a head-in-the-sand approach is not a serious response.

Immigration: Project 2025, as the Niskanen Center put it, "aims to demolish the American immigration system," even though immigration has always been one of the American economy's great sources of strength. (In fact, US GDP is estimated to gain $7 trillion over the next ten years because of immigrants.) Among the many harsh policies proposed are drastically reducing visas, suspending country lists for H-2A and H-2B temporary worker visas, blocking federal financial aid to states that allow immigrants access to in-state tuition, and ending the protections of the Dream Act.

Trump himself has gone even further, saying he would quickly deport 15-20 million undocumented immigrants, even though Pew only counts 10.5 million in the US. The moral dimensions of this purge aside, many economists have noted that these draconian policies will cause a rapid rise in unemployment and inflation, especially in industries like food service, construction, and agriculture.

Cronyism: One of Project 2025's most pernicious elements is its call to return America to a nineteenth-century "spoils system" of government. Under the so-called "Schedule F" plan, about 50,000 federal workers would lose their civil service protections and become at-will employees, meaning they can be fired if they are not sufficiently loyal to the President.

In practice, this would create what conservative Robert Shea has called "an army of suck-ups…if you told your boss that what he or she was proposing was illegal, impractical, [or] unwise they could brand you disloyal and terminate you." It would also mean "a massive exodus of competence" from Washington, as well-trained, knowledgeable civil servants who gather and report data on all kinds of issues leave and are replaced with conservatives chosen only for loyalty.

Fiscal Policy: Along with the usual slate of tax cuts for the wealthy, Project 2025 also calls for abolishing the Federal Reserve, ending its role as the lender of last resort, and letting the President weigh in on interest rate hikes. Trump has also called for a 10% across-the-board tariff on imported goods, which could kick off a global trade war, rapidly accelerate inflation, and cost the average family $1500 a year. It doesn't sound great for business.

On top of everything else, Project 2025 also aims to roll back protections for LGBTQ Americans, further reduce women's access to abortion, cut overtime protections for 4.3 million workers, slash food assistance for 21.6 million households, weaken Social Security and Medicaid, stop efforts to lower prescription drug costs, and much else. This is a remarkably ideological document and one that's far more concerned with putting far-right ideas at the center of government than doing right by families.

Ultimately, as Carlos Lozada put it, the goal of Project 2025 is "capturing the administrative state," so it becomes "a tool for concentrating power and entrenching ideology." In other words, Project 2025 threatens to undermine both our democracy and economy only to benefit a small cadre of far-right faithful at the expense of the vast majority of companies and workers. This could be our new reality in just a few short months unless Americans step up and be counted this November. Even if nobody is excited about this upcoming election, it will decide our future, and we must act accordingly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffra...25-is-a-blueprint-for-business-disaster/

Here is the wiki page with some more details

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Trump knows both of the men who are most responsible for this. I have a hard time believing that he doesn’t know they are responsible for this. I seriously doubt Trump came up with this since he isn’t all that bright and is declining.

Project 2025 partners employ over 200 former Trump administration officials.[63] Notable authors of the project's Mandate for Leadership include Jonathan Berry, Ben Carson, Ken Cuccinelli, Rick Dearborn, Thomas Gilman, Mandy Gunasekara, Gene Hamilton, Christopher Miller, Bernard McNamee, Stephen Moore, Mora Namdar, Peter Navarro, William Perry Pendley, Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Kiron Skinner, Roger Severino, Hans von Spakovsky, Brooks Tucker, Russell Vought, and Paul Winfree.[64]

Libtards are desparate and grasping at straws.

So what you seem to be saying is that the agenda they put forth is something you agree with?

Anyone believing anything that trump says is a complete idiot or insane.

Seriously ... anyone engaging with this poster needs head examining ... yes probably me too for this post. But man I couldn't help it. From a poster that posts nothing but troll trash this really does exemplify everything you need to know about them. It's like a mini-me Trump wannabe.

I said nothing of the sort. Learn to read.

"Eve says things I dont like. Wah Wah Waaaahhhhhhh"

Bless your heart for thinking I care. And before you spout off about responding to your post just realize that's what you just did, so if you want to suggest I care about your posts because i pointed out to the world you made one more troll post that says exactly nada, it'd then mean you care about my post.... Carry on.

FASCISTS ARE LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH AND HOPING LIBS WILL IGNORE THIS 2025 PROJECT. Shame on you.

Your tears are delicious. Keep crying about my posts. I look forward to seeing your panties in a bunch a bunch more.

I love how you feel a need to respond to my posts. Thanks Eve, and bless your heart once more.

Then why the hell defend it? If you agree, freaking own it, Either have the courage to agree or disagree but don't sit there on high and toss out the crap you do. Grow up.

Youre crying giant tears on my behalf. Why wouldnt I laugh at you.

I'm not defending it. I'm calling out libtards for grasping at straws. Lets see if you have reading comprehension yet.

Calling out Libtards? Now isn't that Special. That's all you attempt to do. You don't have discussions. You just do your best to call out "Libtards" that's your entire thing I guess. What a shame... or is that SHAM

Exactly what straws are libs grasping at you keep talking about here?

And there it is. The great content and debate she is known for. The perfect example of the ignorance that regularly flows from her fingers. Anything about the context of the post? No. Any actual debate on the topic? No. Just more blissful ignorance.

J/C

Propaganda season never ends in this modern dystopian nightmare.

Do you have any idea what Project 2025 is or who is behind it?

I can read, so maybe?

Do you have any idea? Or have you just accepted the hit pieces against it wholesale?

All I'm saying is there's a bunch of misinformation going around to put opposing sides in the worst possible light. Neither side really needs the help looking bad.

Welcome to 'Merica. This is what we do now.

That's about right: deflection and a "they're all the same" comment. Another Bravo, well deserved.

So you made a post that has nothing to do with Project 2025 or its content in order to say your usual, "both sides suck"?

Project 2025 isn't misinformation.

Takes by people attacking project 2025 have a fair bit of misinformation. It's bad enough on its own without people trying to make it look worse.

Again, I get that the voice in your head doesn't understand nuance and reality.

What I do understand is when people try to make claims to muddy the water. "Both sides", "misinformation" and all of the nuance used in an attempt to make both sides look the same. So yes, I know nuance when I see it.

I am sort of lost about the misinformation when I posted the link to the whole project 2025 playbook.

This is from the same group (Heritage) that noted that when trump was president in 2016 he pushed through 60% of what they "suggested" and also enabled all three of the suggestions that heritage wanted to SCOTUS and got them confirmed.


Read the report. I have started by going through a section at a time. I still have a lot to go though.

This affects everyone-social security, education, medicare/medicaid, a number of federal agencies and workers and the protections they provide, trade and the list goes on and on and on.

The link below is the budget report for fiscal 2023 to 2032 and the policy changes and change to fiscal impact. There are 229 policy ideas here with description-many are the money parts to the things that they want to change.

https://www.heritage.org/budget/pages/policy-proposals.html

Bruh I’ve made it through 25 pages without yanking my eyeballs out. I dunno how you do it.

I'm mainly commenting on the whole when my side does something we call it one thing, when the other side does the same thing we call it something else.

It's bad when either side does, but it's the same basic bad mouthing narrative coming from both sides when the other side is the one doing whatever.

It was mainly this line from the OP that I had to shake my head at:
That's pretty much what both of the current major parties try to do every election.

OK, I'm listening, why don't you post a take by someone attacking P 2025 and show us what's wrong complete with actual proof?

From the OP:


For example, just think about this. How is getting rid of people that are taking jobs (thus opening jobs) going to cause a rise in unemployment? Unfilled jobs, maybe. Unemployment is something else. It's just a bunch of empty rhetoric and buzzwords mashed together at times. I guess the illegals would be unemployed, but that wouldn't show up in US unemployment numbers as they'd be out of the country. (I'm not saying it would be a good policy, just pointing out the questionable logic/word misuse as to why)



I'm not saying that is gospel. Just showing that both sides tend to put their slant on things instead of looking at them objectively. Anything the "other side" says tends to be twisted into the worst possible light and in some cases ridiculously extreme claims that weren't actually presented are simply made up.

As for the proof, the document is linked in the OP. You can see what it actually says there for yourself. Of course, if you're anything like Pit, you'll read into it whatever you "want"/"believe" regardless of what the actual words written there are.

edit: Again, I'm not supporting Project 2025. Just think that the "left" is attacking a fabricated extreme caricature of it rather than the thing itself.

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Both sides are not the same. Period. Get a grip on yourself. Pffft Gopers gotta say everybody is lying and cheating to defend themselves. Pffft we know y’all very well now. Y’all project your flaws on everyone else.

Considering that I never said they were the same, you're effectively lying by making up stuff that wasn't said. Thanks for illustrating my point yet again.

He claims that both sides do the same thing. Makes a comparison that they both do the same thing. Then calls you the liar for calling him out when he keeps saying both sides are the same.

It's his usual story scrpit.

still projecting your flaws on US.

Right! Proves my point the GOP is dead dead dead long gone and will never be the same…. RIP. The Grand Ole Party. You’re Dead Dead Dead.

Long live the king. Currently Joe Biden.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/oklah...vin-roberts-to-overhaul-state-curriculum

Oklahoma’s Social Studies Curriculum Is About to Get the Project 2025 Treatment

Superintendent Ryan Walters made headlines for mandating the Bible be taught in Oklahoma schools. Now he wants to go even further.

Owen Lavine
Owen Lavine
Breaking News Intern
Published Jul. 09, 2024 7:56PM EDT
Kevin Roberts
Tom Williams/Reuters

Oklahoma’s top education official, who last month mandated that middle and high schools must incorporate the Bible and the Ten Commandments into their curriculums, unveiled a new plan this week to move his state’s public schools even further to the right.

Superintendent Ryan Walters plans to overhaul Oklahoma’s social studies curriculum with the help of a committee that includes a laundry list of right-wing think tank veterans and influencers—including Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts, whose work on the presidential policy proposal document Project 2025 has gone viral in recent days.

Also included on the list is conservative radio host and media personality Dennis Prager, whose empire of educational YouTube videos—named Prager University despite its lack of accreditation—has been likened to ultra-nationalistic propaganda shown in authoritarian countries like North Korea and China.

Walters promised his revisions to the social studies curriculum will “eliminate DEI, indoctrination, and return teaching back to the basics in Oklahoma.”

“Teacher’s unions have been rewriting history, teaching students to hate America. But not under my watch,” Walters added in a statement to the conservative-leaning Washington Examiner. “Our goal is to give Oklahoma students an education that focuses on history, not indoctrination. The executive committee that we’ve assembled are experts in American exceptionalism, our Founding Fathers, and historical documents like the Bible. These things are essential to understanding our history.”

It remains unclear what, exactly, the committee plans to change in the state’s curriculum, but the move is firmly in line with the priorities Walters has already expressed for his tenure as Oklahoma’s top education official—and builds on several initiatives he has already implemented. PragerU videos, for example, were already being played in Oklahoma classrooms after Walters approved them last September.

The inclusion of Roberts, the creator of Project 2025, is sure to prove especially controversial. The 900-page conservative policy wishlist is intended to serve as a blueprint for President Donald Trump’s second term should he win in November and includes a number of contentious proposals like gutting the federal workforce, mass deportations, reversing same-sex marriage, outlaw medical abortion and tighten access to abortion medication, among many others.

The plan has in recent weeks been covered extensively, with many Democrats and media personalities decrying many of the proposals’ extreme nature.

Roberts also found himself in the middle of a personal firestorm when he said during a cable news interview: “We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”


Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation which is responsible for ‘Project 2025,’ says a second American Revolution is already underway and “will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”
Trump, for his part, very publicly denied knowing Roberts or having any connections to Project 2025—despite a number of his former aides working on it. He also met Roberts at least once in 2022, at the time offering profuse praise for the think-tank leader.

In a release announcing his plans, Walters also noted several other conservative intellectuals that have agreed to serve on the advisory committee:

Stacy Washington, the co-chairwoman of the Project 21 National Advisory Council of the National Center for Public Policy Research, an advisory group to Project 2025.
David Barton, founder of WallBuilders, a company that creates educational resources that teach “America’s forgotten history and heroes, emphasizing the moral, Christian, and constitutional foundation on which our nation was built.”
Steve Deace, who hosts The Steve Deace Show on the Blaze Network, which is owned by Glenn Beck.
Mark Bauerlein, a senior editor of the publication, First Things, whose mission is to “advance a religiously informed public philosophy for the ordering of society.”
David Goodwin, the president of the Association of Classical Christian Schools.
Everett Piper, the former president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University and the author of Not a Daycare: The Devastating Consequences of Abandoning Truth, which criticizes contemporary colleges for their so-called liberal “agenda.”
Robert Pondiscio, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who “focuses on K–12 education, curriculum, teaching, school choice, and charter schooling”

There you go with that misinformation again.

Sadly at this point nothing seems to make a difference.