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WASHINGTON, Sept 21 (Reuters) - The number of U.S. domestic terrorism cases under investigation by the FBI has more than doubled since spring 2020, its director told a Senate hearing on Tuesday, after the Justice Department warned that white supremacists and militias pose a growing threat.

“The domestic terrorism caseload has exploded,” FBI Director Chris Wray said during testimony before the U.S. Senate's Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

The bureau now has about 2,700 domestic terror investigations open, up sharply form about 1,000 in the spring of 2020, Wray said.

"To meet that evolving threat, the FBI has surged resources to our domestic terrorism investigations in the last year, increasing personnel by 260%," Wray said.

Domestic terrorism took on new urgency after the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol by supporters of then-President Donald Trump who were trying to overturn President Joe Biden's election victory.

U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland said the Jan. 6 attack by Trump supporters had shown white supremacists and militia groups to be the country's greatest domestic security threat.

In June, Biden's administration released a 30-page plan to counter domestic terrorism. It calls for increased information sharing between federal and local officials and social media companies, additional resources to identify and prosecute threats and new deterrents to prevent Americans from joining dangerous groups.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government...tor-2021-09-21/

When the majority of the people start to revolt, you have to clamp down hard or lose total control.

Sounds like commie speak to me.

One day you will find out how wrong you have been, be it way late to do anything.

Sometimes when you just want to clamp down on the serfs, you have to scare them with overblown tales of terrorism and disease.

That’s exactly what a communist would say.

I don't know about communism - but it's straight out of indoctrination into a cult.

Or watch the actual evidence and still decide to live in denial. Plot to kidnap the Michigan governor, overrunning a state capital with armed citizens and trying to stop the certification of an election and all some of you can say is, "Nothing to see here".

Over 680 thousand dead Americans from Covid. Anyone who isn't at least concerned enough to take common sense precautions is a moron.

"Over 680 thousand dead Americans from Covid. Anyone who isn't at least concerned enough to take common sense precautions is a moron."

There appears to be some sound reasons for some folks NOT to get vaccinated. If your doctor says that you shouldn't get it because of a condition you have, then yeah, do what your doctors tell you. I can see that.

Everyone else,, yeah, pretty moronic

Yes, common sense:
Dining unmasked in a crowded restaurant - safe
Being a lowly server in that same restaurant - unsafe
Being an unmasked cook in a crowded kitchen restaurant, handling everyone's food - safe

Allowing 100K strangers to cram into a college football stadium and yell in each others face at point blank range - safe
Allowing vaccinated students to sit alone in the campus library unmasked - unsafe

All good decisions based on common sense. "Nothing to see here"

Speaking of terrorism, do drone rocket strikes on children for political expedience count as terrorism? Or is that just more common sense?

First, you can't eat with a mask on and the only time you wouldn't be wearing a mask is while you're eating.

Only most "anit vaxxer states" allow 100k strangers to be crowded into a stadium unmasked and rational people do not think that's safe. That's part of the reason we can't get a handle on covid.

So when a mistake is made during war time you label it as what you want it so sound like. I would expect no less.

“We don’t submit to terror. We make the terror.” -Frank Underwood, House of Cards

That's what Native Americas say. Can't say I would argue with them.

Originally Posted By: PitDAWG


Over 680 thousand dead Americans from Covid. Anyone who isn't at least concerned enough to take common sense precautions is a moron.



Originally Posted By: Damanshot


There appears to be some sound reasons for some folks NOT to get vaccinated. If your doctor says that you shouldn't get it because of a condition you have, then yeah, do what your doctors tell you. I can see that.

Everyone else,, yeah, pretty moronic



Some folks (85% NY) have a distrust of vaccines and rightfully so...you calling them "morons"?




Black Lives Matter Leader Calls Vaccine Mandates ‘Racist,’ Promises ‘Uprising’ Against ID System


Simon Kent

24 Sep 2021

A Black Lives Matter leader is threatening an “uprising” over mandatory vaccinations and vaccine passports in New York.

New York City’s vaccine mandate began on Sept. 13. It requires proof of vaccination entry to certain public spaces, including gyms, restaurants, and bars, unless a person has an approved medical exemption.



Hawk Newsome, the co-founder and chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York (BLMGNY), argues the mandates are fundamentally racist, given the low rate of vaccination in the black community.

Some 85.6 percent of black people in the state of New York remain without one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, according to state data.

“I think, in a perfect world, [vaccine requirements] should be business by business. But it could be a slippery slope, so the mandate should be removed completely,” Newsome told the Washington Examiner.

“It’s not gonna be white men in suits on Wall Street who are gonna get stopped. There’s such hypocrisy in this thing.”

The Examiner points out some 70 percent of black people in New York City aged 18 to 44 have not received the injection. There is a variety of reasons claimed for the lag in shots, including religious beliefs and distrust of government.

“It’s black people who have a natural distrust of the vaccine,” Newsome said. He cited the Tuskegee Syphilis Study as an example of historic distrust by black people of the U.S. medical community, despite the fact vaccines are accessible to people of all racial groups.

BLMGNY is advocating for the complete abolition of vaccine requirements, not only in the city but also on a national level.

Newsome, a Baptist, told the news outlet he is especially worried the vaccine mandates do not allow for religious exemptions.

“How dare they remove religious exemptions? It’s the most disrespectful thing I’ve ever seen,” Newsome said. “Now the government has decided your God doesn’t matter? I love God.”

People participate in a rally and march against COVID-19 mandates on September 13, 2021 in New York City. (Spencer Platt/Getty Images)

Chivona Newsome, a fellow co-founder of BLMGNY, threatened an “uprising” in the wake of the mandates.

“We’re putting this city on notice that your mandate will not be another racist social distance practice,” she declared at a protest on Monday, according to the Examiner report “Black people are not going to stand by, or you will see another uprising. And that is not a threat. That is a promise.”

“The vaccination passport is not a free passport to racism,” she concluded.

The pushback against vaccination requirements is not limited to the general NYC area.

As Breitbart News reported, a wider spectrum of black voters is driving down President Joe Biden’s approval rating after the administration mandated vaccines for medium and large businesses on September 8.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/...inst-id-system/

So, the vaccine mandates in nyc are racist, even though they are 'free'? (I put free in parenthesis because we ARE paying for them somehow).

This does not compute for me. How is it racist?

I don't get it, either.

I bet you anything that if I cared enough about things you post, I could find that most of what you posted is BS.... I mean, you got it from Brietbart... That was the first clue

First and foremost, there is no where near a Majority that are involved with an insurrection.

What do you expect? Criminals attempting to take over the country by force need to be dealt with. Forcefully if need be.

It scares me that you could even think the way you do.. Your thinking is 100% anti American.

Its almost as if you are suggesting it's perfectly ok to overthrow the government.

Americans love America. I love America That's why it pains so much to see the dang dirty democrats destroy it, with their dastardly ways. They ought to have their own flag because they have trampled so harshly on the current one. Such a shame the democrats party existed even for one day even if 200 years ago.
The democrats coup against the constitution was successful. Conglomerate of multi national evils! New World Order evils controls who knows how much. If they had honor enough to show their true selves they'd have their own flag.

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Maybe do a little digging on your own and see if other outlets are reporting it?

https://news.yahoo.com/black-lives-matter-greater-york-200600400.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...e-mandates.html

https://www.newsweek.com/vaccine-mandate...mocrats-1631612

Phew....that google search stuff is tough to do. It took forever to type "Black Lives Matter" and "Vaccine" all in one search bar!



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Was it democrats that trampled the capital...? Hmm,, what was that..

I get that you and others want to white wash Jan 6 because it makes all republicans and trump supporters look like asshat lying sacks of crap.

The proof of Trumps actions and those that support him are on video everywhere.. You can lie and you can attempt to cover it up, but bottom line, You don't love America! If you did, you'd stop trying to destroy it.

How does that change what I said?

Its almost as if the left is suggesting it's unamerican to even question the veracity and mandates from the government.. that it's unamerican to point out some of the obvious inconsistencies with the way the mandates are applied.

It really is kind of mind boggling that the rebellious 60s generation, who became the leadership of the democratic party for so long has turned into the "if you question the government at all you aren't American" party.. Now shut up and comply...

Yes, doing everything you can to save American lives is un-American and trying to overthrow our election process is now Patriotic.

We have officially entered bizarro world.

But we aren't though...


Who said that?

Other than mandating every American be vaccinated I think we are doing "everything we can".

When someone infers that "questioning the government" is a moniker for a certain party, it's not so far fetched to point out the extreme the other party has gone to in that regard.

And more to the point, questioning our government isn't the same thing as questioning top healthcare officials. So that analogy doesn't even apply.

Or from the left's point of view; 1/3 of the country has lost its mind and followed a fascist traitor over a mental cliff like loyal rabbid lemmings... Now the remaining sane people need to make uncomfortable decisions to mitigate all the damage they are doing. So yes, shut up and comply.

Seriously though, question everything. We do. The difference is we operate (mostly) based on actual facts. Questioning everything when you believe nothing factual, sure seems counter productive to me. but you do you DC because last I seen this is still a free country... even with it's mandated vaccines.

From a non-partied point of view; Wow, lemmings are annoying- All the various groups of them. It's especially aggravating to watch them run at the same gap from different directions while they point at the opposite herd's ignorance.

It'd be great if they stopped focusing on each other and stopped to look around. Unfortunately, that's not the nature of lemmings, it seems.

At some point when you watch a man do everything he can do purposely divide the nation, promote hate and attack anything and everything that doesn't follow his every word, you have to make a stand. Even if the alternative is only marginally better.

We, as a country, have been settling for "marginally better than horrible" for quite a long time in this country from our elected officials and from our two primary parties.

And the single biggest thing that has been dividing this country since I was in diapers is our two party system and the corrupt people that control them. Donald Trump didn't create the problem, he just took advantage of it...

I actually very much agree with this. I do think at this point, though, that the lemmings of one side have decided to pick up their speed to run off the cliff, while the lemmings of the other side are maintaining their steady pace, currently, at least.

It would be nice to stop and look around, maybe try to find the people driving the lemmings off either side of the cliff and throw them off of it, but that's not the nature of lemmings, like you said.

I don't actually disagree with you. Neither party actually represents me. But I've never seen this level of purposeful division imposed by any other president. One could call that taking advantage of it or one could call it an undermining of our democracy depending on the lens you're viewing it through.

I'm not saying that this was Trumps goal or anything.. but I would say that providing lip service to bipartisanship, while controlling and manipulating the people into hating each other and blaming the other side for all of our problems, and setting up one party as the only party that can save us from eternal destruction, all while smiling and pretending to be nice.....

is a greater threat to undermining our democracy. The path the two parties have been on for decades.. somebody like Trump was inevitable.

I despise our bipartisan system. Absolutely despise it.

It has worked very well for politicians because it's far easier to create a wedge issue when there are only two sides. Once the wedge issues are in place, it's easy to preach those, and then engage in all kinds of self-interested politics that lead to self-gain and the gain of the people that put you and kept you in that position.

Then, when you can't deliver, or things for your constituents get worse, you have to double down on the fear and anger rhetoric. You galvanize the fear and hatred of your constituents and simply direct it at the other side, while you can perpetuate your now life-long political career. When people are fearful and angry at a directed villain, they stop questioning how you have been doing in your job. After a while, they just accept that you are the protector who is saving them from the evils of the other side. You might even try to re-draw your district in some circumstances to make sure you hold on to those people who were always behind you, and always will be.

You start to get used to paling around with people on your side, an informal hierarchy of people doing the same thing as you. You all take turns deciding on who gets to be in what position and who the next one is to take over at a certain level, all while ignoring the pulse of your base, because you are more concerned with biding your time for the next big position. You know that the next campaign trail can just involve shallow sound bites to reaffirm your role to those who voted for you.

Then, all of a sudden, there's a problem. Someone comes along who is much better at your game than you are. The anger and fear that you employed for decades built upon itself over and over again, and now there's also a healthy level of desperation to go with it. This person manages to weave it all together, and excites that ire toward the other side far better than you have, and what's worse...he's calling you out for not doing your job, because...well...you haven't. You know he's ignorant, self-interested and harmful, but you have nothing to stop him from disrupting the system that you were a part of.

Then you look across the aisle at the other side and you realize they perpetuated the same mess, too, because they employed nearly the same tactics as you did, and now they're running a candidate who "earned" that spot through the same garbage setup that you were once a part of on your side. That candidate happens to be highly unlikeable by many, so you come to figure that the crazy guy who took over your party might actually win.

Now you are left with the hard choice of standing up to the person who performed the hostile takeover of your party and ruining your cushy career and dream for self-aggrandizement, or swallowing your pride and becoming a sycophant in hopes that one day you will inherit the role in the new system.

New election comes around and the opposing party wins and seems content that the status quo has been somewhat reestablished, but the crazy guy who took over your party is still campaigning like the election hasn't ended. So now you're left with watching one side continue to perpetuate the detached political dynamic that led to craziness of 2016 vs. watching your own side who has already gone off the deep end.

If only there were more options...

Someone like him have been around for a long time. They were just never elected president. That sets up a very dangerous new path forward for our country.

And you give a nice twist to what was obviously a new precedent set by Trump.

Oh. I didn't know sitting with a fence post in your ass was back in fashion?... Somebody should call Vers.

He seems to try and claim all lemmings are the same. One group of what he calls lemmings didn't try to overthrow the election process or elect a man who did everything he could to purposefully divide our nation. But he can't see the difference.

I think the "fence" metaphor is the problem. It's a myopic characterization and even possibly an acquiescence that there can only be two yards with a fence in the middle.