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Worst Case Scenarios, The Draft goes the ABSOLUTE worst thing totally without comprehension an F.

Unrelated, maybe.

I just saw a Mock where the Browns took DT. Barmore, with a ton of Edge defenders and LB's still on the board.

If the Browns Go Nose Tackle in Round 1, With Edge Rushers still on the board,

They might as well tear down the stadium

Because nobody is going to want to sit in it for 20 years!

WORST CASE SCENARIOS!

Our draft picks die in a plane crash.

And the steelers and ravens airplanes' get mechanical upgrades enabling them to have even less worry of engine failures.

We use the #1 pick to draft a 5'3" 140 lb tight end who turns out to have a wooden peg leg. Okay, it may not be the worst case, but it's bad.

We trade our 1 and 2 picks for AJ McCarron.

How about worst case scenario if they stay at #26.

Other than the player dying in a plane crash?

They take a punter or kicker.

we draft a Defensive Back with the first pick

I don't see that as a bad thing at all. I expect the best available between a DB or pass rusher ...... or even a WR. (an idea which has really blossomed in my mind lately)

I wonder if they could expect Shaun Wade CB Ohio State to be available and what draft pick range,

I believe if one views it as an upgrading of the T. T. db from the Browns last year, he might fit in the mix. Or competition for Redwine.
But not at 26 overall.

He should be available in the late third... unless he's still chasing DeVonta Smith.

How would YTown feel about a choice of these 3 WRs.

Rashod Bateman Wr6, Minnesota, 6'2 210

Kadarius Toney Wr3, Florida, 5'11 190, or

Rondale Moore Wr7, Purdue, 5'9 180,

in a scenario of J,Chase, J.Waddle, and DeVonta Smith, taken off the table.

Amon-Ra St.Brown Wr8 USC, 6'1 195 available.

( note, A few days ago, one of the things I like hearing about my choice Rashod Bateman, is he is supposedly really good at getting off the line of scrimmage.

I think that's one thing which would obviously be tougher that a player would see in the average NFL game vs. and average college game,

I haven't really looked at WR at all. I never really thought that they might look that way until I heard, for the 8000th time today, how deep this draft is with quality WR.

After we find out that Hue wasn't fired properly and he is still the head coach.

We draft Mike Junkin in the first round AGAIN.

Winner

Are sure that’s the winner?



After the draft the Haslem’s announce they’re moving the team before the season starts. The team will now be known as the Maine Moose.

The new team name would be something of a silver lining, at least.

Not all draft selections are good selections, sometimes it's a reach, most years many people are disappointed with the pick.
Even if it's the 2nd or 3rd pick.

How about we draft the QB from Texas A+M with our 26th pick and really shake everyone up!!!

How about Austin freaking Corbett, 2nd round 2018.
( in the line of consistent whiffs at 2nd picks by Cleveland over the years since 99.)

The Browns, took .. an arm flailing, (in his 30 second film on draft night)..
an arm flailing, not tough looking, "finesse"- because...
opposite of a man mover at OG interior OL,

Follwing insult to bad decision, the next TWO
picks in the draft

Were BOTH, OL, interior I think, so near the exact same position

And both of their 30 second draft night videos were,
Man moving graders, and
Looked tough, and
Showed good stance, bend posture in their videos,

Not upright arm flailers, Oh My, that was one of the worst case scenarios, in recent memory.

No Repeat! Say No! Don't do that again, don't let that happen again,
Berry,
Jimmy,
Dee, whew.

I'm sure Corbett is having a great career whatever team he's on now, Just NO, not a fit, for the Browns.

I agree. I have no idea what med reports the team has on Greedy but between his shoulder nerve issue and Ward not playing full seasons, I would love to see an outside corner, again if they are at the top of their board.

I would look DB first depending on who is available. Since we are not picking top 10 I just want the best player on the board, especially if he is rated significantly higher, The problem with picking at 26, there are some really good candidates at edge, DB and LB. Reading and listening to draft report reviews almost all of them have a significant red flag either an unresolved injury concern, weaknesses not easy to address or something else that makes no player at that spot a "sure thing". I don't mean a guarantee as this is impossible, just a concern enough they could be a bust. It does sound like this draft is very deep in WR & OL which unfortunately are pretty solid positions for us.

Saying all this the FO has spent many more hours and this is their job/specialty so I will like who they pick until there is reason not to.

We draft Clifford Charlton Jr.

I know what you mean. The Browns always miss on their 2nd round picks. Just look at their 2014 2nd round pick, another offensive lineman...what was his name? Oh yeah, Joel Bitonio. What a horrible pick. And the 2 OL picked immediately after Corbett were Will Hernandez and Nick Chubb. I would agree that picking Nick Chubb as an offensive lineman was a huge mistake. He would probably be better used as a running back. Too bad the team that made that pick couldn't see that.

The 2005 Browns draft. Should/could be a case study on how to make what looks good but is actually bad.

I loved, liked the Browns 2005 draft that year and maybe even a season later, but looking back, only
Only Braylon Edwards was decent,
And the DE Mcmillian, but all DE's can look good.

Braylon Edwards WR
Brodney Pool Db
Charlie Frye, Qb - worst qb in the 4th quarter even not turning it over, to ever try a drive, team wouldn't score if you gave him 45 snaps.

Anthony Perkins - Db, whatever he played it never impacted.
5, 6, 6, 7. DE McMillian in the 6th,
Lb, Dt, Ot. the Ot was named Dunn, I liked him, he never impacted.

A great all around draft of needs, for players that never impacted anything, (outside of Edwards, and maybe 4 snaps by McMillian) and the Browns in 2006
began 13 lost seasons anyway.

Brodney Pool, ... Trying to prove the Browns consistently cannot hit gold with their 2nd pick in any/almost any draft since 1999.

the 2005 draft, a case study in peppering needs results in NOTHING!
If Braylon Edwards didn't turn out to be really really good, it would have ended up man really really historically remarkably bad.

I said 2nd pick in any draft. (not necc. 2nd 'round')
In 2014, the Browns picked Justin Gilbert
their 2nd pick in the draft in 2014 was Johnny Manziel.(not Joel Bitonio)
Do try and keep up.

I notice you glossed over the fact that the 2nd pick after Corbett, which you identified as an OL was in fact Nick Chubb. Do try to keep up.

Will Hernandez
and Braden Smith,

The two OL in the next 5 picks after Corbett, who did not look like a, (well, who looked like road graders.)

Kind of being harsh on Denzel Ward, aren't you?

We trade up to #22 and take a QB that was expected to go much higher but slid.

Not sure if you were referring to my post about Denzel playing full seasons or someone else. If it was my post, I will address by saying I love Denzel, but just for accuracy I checked his stats. He has started 12 games in each of his 3 seasons. His first year he played in one other game so he played in 13.

I wish he played every defensive down, he is a great player. But playing 75% of games concerns me. I only say that in relation to the draft regarding the direction I would lean. His history along with Greedy's risk to me makes outside corner critical. Troy Hill is a slot and I think most people agree corner was a weak position for us last year.

I love Denzel, especially being a former Buckeye, but if we upgrade everything else but outside corner, and Greedy can't go and Denzel gets hurt that defensive weakness reduces a lot of the upgrades me have made thus far in the offseason.

I hated that pick. JFF won the Heisman in his freshman year. It was the following year, an away game (TCU?) where he scored a scrambling TD going into the student end of the field. The crowd was loudly jeering him, and when he scored, the volume doubled. He stood in the end zone, faced the crowd, and did his money fingers gesture, for which he got a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty. As he came off the field, his HC came onto the field to scold him for it, and he walked right past the HC without even looking at him.

I knew in that moment, I wanted nothing to do with him!

Alright here's a list, I'm trying to see a pattern, I've felt the Browns have whiffed on 2nd time they pick in various drafts.
2004 Kellon Winslow jr and "Sean Jones" - S. jones played 7 years

2005. Braylon Edwards and "Brodney Pool"
2006. Kamerion Wimbley and Lb. "Dqwell Jackson", Dqwell played 10 years
2007. joe Thomas, and "Brady Quinn"

2008. Beau Bell and "Martin Rucker"- Te, Both players not until the 4th round.
2009. Alex Mack, and "Brian Robiskie"
2010. Joe Haden, and "TJ Ward", (Hardesty followed)
2011. Phil Taylor and "Jabaal Sheard"

2012. Trent Richardson and "Brandon Weeden"
2013. Barkevious Mingo and "Leon McFadden" db.

2014. Justin Gilbert, and "Johnny Manziel" (Joel Bitonio follows
(^ that's a 3 year period right there)
2015. Danny Shelton and "Cameron Erving"
(that's 4 straight years
2016. Corey Coleman and "Emmanuel Ogbah", - Ogbah was pretty good, let go of too soon

2017. Myles Garrett and Jabril Peppers. (Peppers was doing well here, imo, but traded off
2018. Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward. (Austin Corbett later) So I was wrong on Corbett being the 2nd pick total, hard to count Denzel Ward he was #4 overall that's basically, actually a top 10 overall, but that range, that range I'm talking about where they found Corbett, ...

Edit to add: had to check
2019 (round 1 NA per OBJ trade) Greedy Williams and "Sione Taki Taki"
2020. Jedrick Wills OT, and "Grant Delpit" FS.

Your point is the we consistently miss on 2nd picks, but what I see is broader than that. The Browns for most of the 21st century have been terrible drafters, regardless of to which individual pick you refer. But the past is the past. The group in charge now, AB/KS/PD have shown forethought and planning in player acquisition. Lets wait and see before condemning their picks.

Out of the ones posted to that point? Yes.

With the 26th selection in the first round of the 2021 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select QB Spergon Wynn from the University of Minnesota.

We let the clock run out without getting the pick in.

Jimmy reaches for Berry, removes a (gasp!) mask, and it was really Ray Farmer all along!

Would have gotten away with it too, if not for those pesky kids and that stupid dawg!

Austin freaking Corbit is still the starting RG for the rams.

The Browns gave up on him way to soon, just like Buffalo gave up on Teller way to soon.