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Nothing confused me - you are the one that's trying to insist the Harris answer a Q that was asked by Pence. That's not the way it works. But you know - don't let facts get in your way, it hasn't stopped Trump or Pence.

And yet she's light years ahead of Trump ... and better than Pence. So what does that say about our choices.

Kamala had no answer for that question, not a clue how to answer it.

But you support socialist policies.

C’mon, you got the humor in that line.


By the way, I voted for Tulsi Gabbard in the primaries.

no one knows how to answer that question, because this isnt suppose to be a problem in this country.

but thanks to Trump, now we gotta worry about peaceful transfer of power.

Trump is garbage.

This debate:

Moderator: "Vice President Pence, is your first name Michael?"

VP Pence: "Let me tell you about President Trump. He did..."

Pence said all of that....

and in the next 24 hours, Trump is gonna completely contradict every last bit of that unity comment.

So you are saying the socialists are smarter and less embarrassing than Trump and Pence ?? Gotcha.

well, at least these two acted like adults.

i guess if that's the standard we're at, then whatever.

Mike Pence won this debate!

no. Harris definitely won.

Acting like adults is a good standard to start with.

I think if a candidate ever came in and answered the question asked, the American people would notice that and appreciate it and that candidate would look stellar.

j/c:

I am not going to keep posting in the Political forum much because it is far too despicable for me. I am only going to share a few thoughts on the debate and will not comment further.

--Both candidates did a much better job than the Presidential candidates.

--I think policy was covered more than personalities than the presidential debate, but it was still too personal.

--I appreciate talk about policy over emotions and feelings. I thought Pence won that battle.

--I thought the moderator was better than Chris Wallace.

--The highlight of the night by far was the question from the middle school girl that concluded the debate. It was something about how all she sees is both sides attacking one another and how are we supposed to come together when our leaders won't. Both candidates skirted around the question, but Pence did a bit better job of at least referring to it.

--I am voting for policy over feelings. I'm voting Republican.

Have a nice life.

Did they test that fly for Covid’s?

Such in depth perspective. Lmao.

For me, Kamala won hands down. Pence refused to stay on point, which some find to be a good debate strategy. I’ve always hated that form of debate. You are not winning, you are deflecting. He also refused to follow the rules as is typical with this administration. She came off far more informed and struck at the perfect times.

This debate matters a little more than usual, but this election is about whether or not you support a person named Trump to lead your nation. Plain and simple.

It was nice to see a debate w/o constant interruptions as much as Pence tried.

He was on his heels at time. Had to use time to new questions to follow up on previous topics.

He's bland, boring and attracts the white, evangelical vote which Trump needed in 2016 because he lacked the religious credibility. Trump already has the base locked up for 2020 which means this was a non-win for Trump.

Harris filled in talking points where Biden was unable to because of that debates disaster.

Minds were likely unchanged from this debate.

Nearly everyone has made up the minds already.

Pence has a career as a future Indiana senator.

Biden stands for:

-Curtailing the 2nd amendment
-Wants health care for all, including illegal aliens. He stood on the debate stage along with Bernie Sanders and raised his hands. He is a liar. Not economically viable. In addition for health care for all to work, it is mandatory to raise taxes on all, not just the wealthy. Only wealthy tax dollars would run the program for 4 months.
-Has no plan for illegal immigration, none.
-Supports Iran
-Supports China.
-Supports the green New deal. Not economically viable.
-Supports shutting down the country again.
-Does not believe in American exceptional ism.
-Controlled by Harris and special interest groups.
-Career politican who has gotten rich if special interest groups.

Trump isn't perfect but I still don't understand why the DNC picked Biden. If they had any balls they would have went with Bernie or mayor Pete.

Didn't watch it. Spent time with family, from out of state. Got to play some game - call it wall corn hole?, with my 3 year old cousin's kid. Well, I didn't play so much as I was the bag getter. He couldn't reach them after he threw them.

I was also the high five getter/giver. And after he got a 3 pointer, I showed him how to bow. He bowed after each scoring bag there after.

I feel I had a good night.

Bold claims.

Would love to see a breakdown from a reputable government agency that says these plans are not economically viable. Please use a source other than left-wing, left-center, center-right, or right-wing websites.

The answers to my questions, given the criteria I set, are out there if you look hard enough.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
-Carl Sagan

Well gee, that elimiates 99% of websites.

My first- my very first thought was:

"Flies are genetically attracted to the scent of scat. Ain't no flies landin' on Kamala's side of the stage."

And that fly hung out for a goood long while too- did you notice that?
I'm sure you noticed that.

I'm sure that tens of millions of other Americans noticed it, as well.

Let's be clear: this creature, genetically hardwired to seek out DaS# didn't land on Pence's lectern. Fly didn't land on his suit lapel or his shoulder. Oh, no- that's not where Fly landed. Where did Fly land? Yup- that's right. Fly landed right on his head- the apex of the pile, while it was emanating at its most stank. The Mt. Everest of 'pileage.'

Fly be like: "Oh, man.... this the ish I been waiting for. Lemme get a fat meal over here on this. Mmmmm- nice. Warm- and fresh. Might also wanna drop a few of my eggs down in the toppa this one too- 'cause I'm pro-life, you know-"


Gimmeaminnit... I need to dab my cheeks with this Kleenex... catch my breath- O.M.G.

Dawg- I laughed so hard, I had to take clothes off, to keep from overheating.

2020... the insanity is unrelenting.

THAT was classic.

Am I the only one that thought Pence looked ready for embalming? He looked like a ghost. And his eyes were bloodshot. He may have to have Trump hook him up with his spray paint tan connect.

Come on Clem it's clear to everybody that the Fly is on Trump and Pences side. Was it wearing a mask or not? Nope

Now this......

She sidestepped there like Biden did, and that's disturbing. However, Pence was far more guilty of avoiding answering the questions. I think it was the second or third question where he basically listened to the question and blatantly decided to discuss a previous question... He was dodging questions like Dante Hall dodged defenders on punt returns.

I didn't watch the Biden/Trump debate - but a couple of questions for you based on your comment:

1. You saw and noticed how Pence did this all night long too right? And you saw how Pence kept going over his time repeatedly. And you saw how he talked over Harris right? . . . But specifically to your point, Pence must have kept going about a previous or different point on more than 50% of his answers.

2. When you talked about Biden in the other debate answering or going back to previous topics .... I guess then that Trump didn't ? He always answered and stuck to the Q that Wallace asked?

Let me know.

You are the smartest person on this board, good sir. I wish I had spent my time watching "Building the Browns" instead. I heard it was a good one.

I honestly have no idea where you are going with this, or how/why you are inferring certain things from my brief comment, but I will go ahead and answer your questions:

1. I stated in my question how "Pence was far more guilty of avoiding answering the questions." I agree he was terrible at ending on time and he talked over Harris, and she was right to rebuke him. Pence definitely side-stepped the majority of questions. You could tell that he had a list of things/buzzwords/points he wanted to talk about, and he was going to use those as a backdrop to any question he knew was going to be difficult.

2. When did I talk about Biden in the other debate answering or going back on previous topics???? How did you infer that? I said "she sidestepped there like Biden did..." and that was specifically in reference to the court packing question. Biden definitely sidestepped that question. I don't think that's arguable. To your point on Trump, he was a complete hot mess in just about every aspect of the presidential debate.

That being said, one problem I have with both sides in these political topics is that when I or anyone makes a criticism of one side, there seems to be a perpetual recoil of "Wait, so are you saying the other side didn't do it too???? Should they get off the hook???"

Two people can both do things wrong in the same and different ways. If I ask two people to cross a street, and one of them lies down and the other one climbs a tree, then they both failed the task. What use is there in one person pointing out that the other did it wrong? As far as I'm concerned, I have two people who are incapable of crossing a street.

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't infer - I asked questions.

From your original post - I think it's clear you said Biden went back to previous questions : ""Pence was far more guilty of avoiding answering the questions. I think it was the second or third question where he basically listened to the question and blatantly decided to discuss a previous question... He was dodging questions like Dante Hall dodged defenders on punt returns.""

I think they all do it. I thought Harris was significantly better at answering and responding to the questions the moderator asked. I think she was entirely correct not to answer a loaded question from Pence. . . . do you think there aren't dozens and dozens of "gotcha" questions Harris could have asked Pence if that was what the Debate was supposed to be about? . . . As I said- I didn't watch the Biden Trump debacle.

As for the answer of packing the courts ?

I hope that the Democrats - if they win all House, Senate and WH - play by the same rules and with the same ethics that Trump and this GOP have done for the last 4 years.

Swish,
I said the exact same thing to my wife while we were watching. Almost feel sorry for Pence. He's got a tough job.

We were laughing because he had that insincere, practiced sort of civility going on. "Thank you so much for asking that, Susan... now I'm going to talk about something completely unrelated". Some of those questions were almost unfair to Pence (and I don't mean that in a 'fake news' way... I mean defending parts of Trump admin's record is just not possible). What else was he going to do but deflect/ignore. Again, his job is not one I would want.

Still, Pence did better than I thought he would. And Harris wasn't anywhere near as aggressive as I expected. Pence got a couple shots in, which was more than I expected.

Overall, both did better than I thought. Pence, working from a disadvantage in having to defend his and Trump's record, was able to land shots and somewhat minimize the shots from Kamala. Having not been impressed AT ALL with Kamala's debate performances during the nomination, I thought she did very well. I think I need to temper my expectations when there are a number of people up on the stage (nomination debate). They're #1 priority is probably just fighting for screen time.

Agree with your sentiment in that post.


After taking some time to reflect on the debate, I would say things ended up pretty even.

If you are a Democrat I can how one would argue Kamala won. But I can also see how a Republican could argue that pence won

Sorry if I misunderstood you. My initial question there was not comparing Biden to Pence but Harris to Pence. She side-stepped the court packing is what I was referring to.

I agree they all do it. Harris was better at answering the questions and staying within the structural parameters than Pence, IMO.

i agree bro.

as i said last night, both harris and pence seemed to do a better job advocating for their bosses better than the actual bosses did.

none of them did anything to tank their campaigns, and i think in a worst case scenario, the country would be fine if either of these two needed to step into the position due to health concerns from the actual president.