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I approve of Trump's stance on this issue. He was an ass for much of the debate, but he made a few good points and this was one.

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so you approve of trump calling for white supremacist to intimidate voters and others around america?


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I approve of Trump's stance on this issue. He was an ass for much of the debate, but he made a few good points and this was one.


Quoting this before your eventual edit.

You understand the Proud Boys are literal white supremacists, right? They. Are. Nazis.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I approve of Trump's stance on this issue. He was an ass for much of the debate, but he made a few good points and this was one.


Quoting this before your eventual edit.

You understand the Proud Boys are literal white supremacists, right? They. Are. Nazis.


WOW.

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I caught this when he said it. Biden knew then he hit some gold there. Trump basically gave them orders like he is their Fuhrer or something...

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First off, lets get the topic right.

He was asked about White supremacists and militias. There may be some relationships between these things and neo-nazis or Proud Boys, but they are not necessarily all one in the same.

His choice to not immediately condemn white supremacy and all racial superiority movements is wrong.

I also don't like the intentional mincing of white supremacy with militias by Wallace because these things are not related. Militias are protected by the second amendment and they don't have to be right wing or left wing, or composed of any race of individuals.

The Proud Boys appear to be unrelated to both militias and white supremacy. So he basically answered the question with nonsense.

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so you approve of trump calling for white supremacist to intimidate voters and others around america?


No, he called for them to stand down. He also called for them to stand by. I'm pretty tired of how BLM and Antifa think they can intimidate people by attacking them.

It's simple........I would never attack a black person. However, if a black person attacks me, I am going to fight back.

Y'all want war..................Let's war.

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Their founder has called for women and individual in the transgender community to be killed for no reason.

Y'all need to research what they're about.

I'd link a video from their founder, but the guy uses language inappropriate for this board.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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so you approve of trump calling for white supremacist to intimidate voters and others around america?


No, he called for them to stand down. He also called for them to stand by. I'm pretty tired of how BLM and Antifa think they can intimidate people by attacking them.

It's simple........I would never attack a black person. However, if a black person attacks me, I am going to fight back.

Y'all want war..................Let's war.


No, he said to "stand back, and stand by." Like someone said, it's like he's their commander. And he never once condems any of them, no matter the various groups or labels.

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We all have our interpretations. All I know is that I see BLM folks constantly attacking innocent white citizens. I am of the opinion that if someone attacks my family, we will fight back. Period!

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Originally Posted By: Swish
so you approve of trump calling for white supremacist to intimidate voters and others around america?


No, he called for them to stand down. He also called for them to stand by. I'm pretty tired of how BLM and Antifa think they can intimidate people by attacking them.

It's simple........I would never attack a black person. However, if a black person attacks me, I am going to fight back.

Y'all want war..................Let's war.


FOR the record, Trump said "Proud Boys stand back and stand by". He never said stand down.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
We all have our interpretations. All I know is that I see BLM folks constantly attacking innocent white citizens. I am of the opinion that if someone attacks my family, we will fight back. Period!


Most people, if attacked, will fight back, and rightfully so. There are bad people in the BLM and Antifa movements, but a majority are not bad. Any person that is part of a White Supremacy group is a PoS. Yet you and the President condemn the entire BLM movement, and he we don't condemn the White Supremacy movement, but instead commands them.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
We all have our interpretations. All I know is that I see BLM folks constantly attacking innocent white citizens. I am of the opinion that if someone attacks my family, we will fight back. Period!


Has BLM attacked your family or even made the slightest threat directly to your family? You can't believe they are all alike? Every BLM supporter and ANTIFA member attacks innocent white people? Is that what you think? Only a very small percentage of them have been violent at all, let alone 'attack' innocent families. Check the facts bro.

Hell I think Trump is fascist, but I don't expect stormtroopers to kick in my door anytime soon.

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We all have our interpretations. All I know is that I see BLM folks constantly attacking innocent white citizens. I am of the opinion that if someone attacks my family, we will fight back. Period!


Most people, if attacked, will fight back, and rightfully so. The are bad people in the BLM and Antifa movements, but a majority are not bad. Any person that is part of a White Supremacy group is a PoS. Yet you and the President condemn the entire BLM movement, and he we don't condemn the White Supremacy movement, but instead commands them.


What? I truly do not get this:

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I support the slogan BLM. I do not support the political organization that is BLM. I think their demands are off the charts. I have encouraged folks to research those demands for themselves.

I will continue to treat black folks fairly, but I'm not going to ignore their unfair demands. And frankly, I could care less if the likes of you agree w/that or not. But please, don't suspend me.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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We all have our interpretations. All I know is that I see BLM folks constantly attacking innocent white citizens. I am of the opinion that if someone attacks my family, we will fight back. Period!


Has BLM attacked your family or even made the slightest threat directly to your family? You can't believe they are all alike? Every BLM supporter and ANTIFA member attacks innocent white people? Is that what you think? Only a very small percentage of them have been violent at all, let alone 'attack' innocent families. Check the facts bro.

Hell I think Trump is fascist, but I don't expect stormtroopers to kick in my door anytime soon.


You probably should not have asked that.

I have kept quiet about it because I don't believe in labeling, but I did inform the board way back in March that my daughter and her fiance were chased by an angry mob of black people back in March.

I know that their friend who owns a bar got the crap beat out of him because blacks were rioting and he went outside to plead that they don't destroy his place and they hit him w/a bottle in the head from behind and he was in the hospital for over 2 weeks.

I also know that my son was attacked by two black teens in downtown Columbia and he beat their asses. Well, he fended them off.

I know that my daughter's car window was smashed in by black guys that the police caught.

I have kept those things to myself because I hate stereotyping, but y'all never shut the hell up. Sooner or later, the punks are going to force us to fight back even though we don't want to.

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j/c...

Yikes.


Proud Boys celebrate after Trump's debate callout
On their account on the social media app Telegram, the Proud Boys appeared to take the statement as marching orders.


The Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group, pledged allegiance to President Donald Trump on Tuesday night after he told the group to "stand back and stand by" during the first presidential debate.

Many people on social media who identify with the group echoed that language, saying they were "standing down and standing by." One known social media account for the group made "Stand back. Stand by" part of its new logo.


https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/proud-boys-celebrate-after-trump-s-debate-call-out-n1241512

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Look y'all...............I have always tried to help minorities. I despised the unfair treatment they faced. I just don't get why some folks want to alienate the very people who have supported minorities for decades.

Damn y'all...........why can't we just try to get along?

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Let's preach division. Great jog, Milk.

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How is sharing factual information preaching division?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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We all have our interpretations. All I know is that I see BLM folks constantly attacking innocent white citizens. I am of the opinion that if someone attacks my family, we will fight back. Period!


Has BLM attacked your family or even made the slightest threat directly to your family? You can't believe they are all alike? Every BLM supporter and ANTIFA member attacks innocent white people? Is that what you think? Only a very small percentage of them have been violent at all, let alone 'attack' innocent families. Check the facts bro.

Hell I think Trump is fascist, but I don't expect stormtroopers to kick in my door anytime soon.


You probably should not have asked that.

I have kept quiet about it because I don't believe in labeling, but I did inform the board way back in March that my daughter and her fiance were chased by an angry mob of black people back in March.

I know that their friend who owns a bar got the crap beat out of him because blacks were rioting and he went outside to plead that they don't destroy his place and they hit him w/a bottle in the head from behind and he was in the hospital for over 2 weeks.

I also know that my son was attacked by two black teens in downtown Columbia and he beat their asses. Well, he fended them off.

I know that my daughter's car window was smashed in by black guys that the police caught.

I have kept those things to myself because I hate stereotyping, but y'all never shut the hell up. Sooner or later, the punks are going to force us to fight back even though we don't want to.


It wasn't a mistake to ask. This goes a long way to explain why you feel the way you do. I've had the opposite experience with protesters. But I wasn't around any riots or 'violent mobs', just people wanting their family, friends, and other people to be treated fairly.

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How is sharing factual information preaching division?


If one did not want to spread division or at least promote honest thinking, they would post articles that highlighted perspectives from both sides.

Very few people on this board try to be fair. Milk is not one of them.

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Look dawg.................I still support minorities and women and other groups that lack power.

I am just pointing out some discreetness in how folks look at things.

I actually have a ton of stories about blacks in our schools. I haven't shared them and I don't want to because some folks on the right will run w/them, but they do exist. Y'all should stop pushing on me.

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Great jog, Milk.


As an avid runner, thanks!

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The left needs a boogyman in an election year. I don’t understand how they can systematically deplatform Loomer, Jones, Milo but actually platform the Proud Boys and act like they need the President to make them go away. Just utter nonsense.

The mere fact that they were even mentioned in a Presidential debate is a HUGE HUGE win for them. How dumb can they be to continue to talk about them? They have just seen how absolutely nuts these riots have become and needed some trash talking point like the 10 people that make up the "Proud Boys".


I bet their clicks and google searches were at an all time high last night. 90% of American probably had no idea what they were even talking about. Literally giving these idiots a platform because you want to deflect from your trash base, burning major cities.

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rofl trump supporters doubling down on their love for everything trump by center staging their own racism here. Well played. rofl


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Originally Posted By: BpG


He didn't refuse, but he didn't actually denounce. He said 'sure' when asked if he was willing. He didn't actually denounce. Similarly, he skirted the request later on in that exchange that was out there for all to see.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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He didn't refuse, but he didn't actually denounce. He said 'sure' when asked if he was willing. He didn't actually denounce. Similarly, he skirted the request later on in that exchange that was out there for all to see.


He’s obviously got the American racist’s support locked up now. Poor Biden. rofl


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Wait..............you are calling out BpG and letting guys like Perfect and Rocket walk w/out a comment?

Sheesh!

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Was that directed at me? I'm assuming that you're responding to someone else, because that's not at all what I said.

BpG posted a tweet of the transcript. If you read the transcript, you can tell Trump doesn't actually denounce white supremacy.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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It was, but carry on. Let the disgusting comments from guys like Perfect and Rocket go unchallenged and try to nitpick on BpG's tweet.

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I don't pay attention to anything perfectsprial says... the only time I read his posts is if someone responds to him and I need to get the context behind it.

I didn't see anything from rocket that's even remotely close to 'disgusting' on this page.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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BpG doesn't want to accept what we all saw last night. Trump refused to disavow white supremacist groups and when he asked for a specific name instead of just saying he was against them, Biden named them as the 'Proud Boys' because they are a national socialist (NEO NAZI) group that has been very actively carrying the Presidents torch at recent protest hotspots. Then Trump went on to say, 'Proud Boys stand back and stand by... somebody has to stop ANTIFA!', which went beyond his normal dog whistles and was taken as walking orders by the nazi group itself.

Oh, and there are a few more than 10 of them, for anyone else who is going to try to downplay Trump's words. Here's a relatively unbiased news source from the UK and their take on last night:

https://news.sky.com/story/proud-boys-wh...debate-12085668

As far as I know, Sky News has no dog in this fight other than not liking the authoritarian fascism on display.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Wait..............you are calling out BpG and letting guys like Perfect and Rocket walk w/out a comment?

Sheesh!


Wait........ are you defending Trump's shout out to the Proud Boys? smh

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
It was, but carry on. Let the disgusting comments from guys like Perfect and Rocket go unchallenged and try to nitpick on BpG's tweet.



Oh the hypocrisy. Within the last 24 hours did you write a post telling others to stick to voicing their opinions. And here you are (again) doing what you do more than ANYONE ... telling posters not only what they did write is wrong - but what they DIDN'T write. smh. Can't make this level of manure up. Next you'll start name calling and insulting people in the same post where you cry victim of it. smh.


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Let's preach division. Great jog, Milk.


Milk didn't make the news, he's just reporting it. While you're supporting it.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Wait..............you are calling out BpG and letting guys like Perfect and Rocket walk w/out a comment?

Sheesh!


Trump told the Proud Boys to "stand by". No amount of BS is going to change that.


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Wait..............you are calling out BpG and letting guys like Perfect and Rocket walk w/out a comment?

Sheesh!


Wait........ are you defending Trump's shout out to the Proud Boys? smh


Of course he is. He’s a trump supporter. There are good people on both sides. But not a single one on the left side.


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Anyways ....Biden just told the Proud Boys and all other white supremacy groups to cease and desist today in Alliance, Ohio. Something trump can’t ever say. He can’t loose his racist base.


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