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He’s not a scheme fit for the ZBS and you wonder if there’s more to the story than just a cap casualty ... but I’d at least think about it
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He’s not a scheme fit for the ZBS and you wonder if there’s more to the story than just a cap casualty ... but I’d at least think about it If he’s not a fit why think about it? Also, are you sure he isn’t a fit? I know next to nothing about him. I know that the Saints drafted the Ruiz kid from Michigan so maybe that is the reason he is expendable.
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Don’t quite know if the scheme fit is there but he’s a quality Guard.
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Source: The #Saints have cut guard Larry Warford, who will be one of the top FAs available.
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I don't know much about the dude and I won't make stuff up, but I can tell you this.............New Orleans OL impressed me like no other this year.
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I mean.....it is certainly worth a consideration. I suppose it depends on what Berry thinks of the current options we have now, specifically Teller and Forbes. Forbes had some hype to him before falling to injury. I'd prefer Zeitler.
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We can only spend so much on the OL. We have 3 FA and a 1st round pick already on the OL. Unless Warford would be inexpensive, I just can't see them spending more there. Plus, we have several interesting candidates at the RG spot, in Forbes, Weller, and Nick Harris, who we drafted this year.
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LOL............this won't go over well, but I don't really care. I read this forum and it's like some posters think we need to have an All Pro at every offensive position just so Baker can be decent. The number of excuses for the guy are mind-boggling. One might think that it's the first overall pick who should be elevating the play of others, rather than the other way around.
And I know you love Baker, YTown...........but, my comment was not directed towards you.
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Agreed.
LOL...............you might be indicting me, but still, I agree. LOL
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Me thinks the Ravens will jump all over Warford - now that Yanda retired.
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I will say this about Josh Rosen, as a player he has all the skills, as a person to lead a NFL team, there are problems that became apparent.
It is similar to a Manziel situation, except Rosen was a more prototypical QB.
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Me thinks the Ravens will jump all over Warford - now that Yanda retired. thats the rumor on Twitter based on Ingram’s comments
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Me thinks the Ravens will jump all over Warford - now that Yanda retired. thats the rumor on Twitter based on Ingram’s comments That would suck if the Ravens got Warford.
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Warford was a ProBowler the last three years.
We have $39 mil in cap space. He could be signed for around $7. Sure take a look. Investigate.
If you can improve the team at reasonable cost why not?
You look at your plans for RG. You look ay Warford and determine if is a good move.
I would love to see a like type linebacker become available.
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I certainly would look into it also. The O-line is the most important unit on the team. A strong O-line that can open holes for the running game and really protect the QB is invaluable. It can make an average QB look much better and keep a D off the field. We all have seen what an average or worse O-line can do to an offense. JMO
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I'm not understanding why people think Warford isn't a scheme fit for a ZBS when, AFAIK, New Orleans runs a ZBS and Warford was a Pro Bowler the last 3 years in that very system?
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If you can improve the team at reasonable cost why not?
Exactly - I think the OL is plenty good right now - but if you can improve it at a reasonable cost then do it. And to be honest - we could do the same sort of thing we did with Conklin - good salary, big guarantee, short contract. Puts him back onto a contract close to his prime making it very attrctive for him, and frees us up to sign our young talent when the time is right.
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I'm not understanding why people think Warford isn't a scheme fit for a ZBS when, AFAIK, New Orleans runs a ZBS and Warford was a Pro Bowler the last 3 years in that very system? I have also seen comments about us not wanting to invest too much into one position group .. but we’ll see
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Me thinks the Ravens will jump all over Warford - now that Yanda retired. thats the rumor on Twitter based on Ingram’s comments That would suck if the Ravens got Warford. I agree
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I'm not understanding why people think Warford isn't a scheme fit for a ZBS when, AFAIK, New Orleans runs a ZBS and Warford was a Pro Bowler the last 3 years in that very system? I have also seen comments about us not wanting to invest too much into one position group .. but we’ll see Too late for that!
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Players likely to be cutSome interesting LB names on there...not sure if any of them are a scheme fit. I have a feeling the Browns pick up someone from this list before the season starts to add some competition and a veteran to the LB group.
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If they gave a trophy for most unused cap space, we'd be the freaking Patriots ... perennial champs. For me personally, the two units I don't mind being over-invested in are OL and DL.
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If they gave a trophy for most unused cap space, we'd be the freaking Patriots ... perennial champs. For me personally, the two units I don't mind being over-invested in are OL and DL. we will certainly be paying Garrett very soon ... 25 million per season
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If they gave a trophy for most unused cap space, we'd be the freaking Patriots ... perennial champs. For me personally, the two units I don't mind being over-invested in are OL and DL. Not coincidentally we would also win the trophy for worst drafting.
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Players likely to be cutSome interesting LB names on there...not sure if any of them are a scheme fit. I have a feeling the Browns pick up someone from this list before the season starts to add some competition and a veteran to the LB group. We would probably be able to trade for Avery Williamson from the Jets, but I'd be surprised if the Dolphins moved Raekwon McMillan (even if he only stays as a back up, he is cheap on the final year of his rookie deal). Downside is, Williamson has had a high level of success (prior to last year's injury) as a 3-4 ILB. I'd wouldn't be against randomly offering a 6th for McMillan though, just to see if the 'Phins would consider it. 
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LOL............this won't go over well, but I don't really care. I read this forum and it's like some posters think we need to have an All Pro at every offensive position just so Baker can be decent. The number of excuses for the guy are mind-boggling. One might think that it's the first overall pick who should be elevating the play of others, rather than the other way around.
And I know you love Baker, YTown...........but, my comment was not directed towards you.  Yep that is why us fans wish to get better talent... man get off the Baker crapola its nausiating and totally unfounded!
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You have a funny way of burying the hatchet. I thought you meant that we would try to let old differences go and try to treat each other civilly. Instead, your version of "burying the hatchet" is to place it directly in the back of my skull. Have a nice life, tab.
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Can Clowney and Griffin just sign with someone already?
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Should he have prefaced with "this won't go over well, but I don't really care"?
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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I agree adding Peters would be smart.. depth.. experience.. rotate..
All upsides.
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Perfect spot for Peters and Wills.
Peters to start and Wills to quickly succeed him.
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We drafted as high as we did because we are prepared to start him day 1. He will have a very good, experienced LG in Bitonio next to him, and a good blocking TE in Hooper. (as well as us having 2 good blocking RBs, and I suppose a FB, as well)
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I don't think we need him.
Robinson is the bar that has been set. As bad as he was last year, he wasn't terrible. I think Wills is better than Robinson right out of the gate. That's good enough, and he will get better as we go.
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I am in the sign Peters camp.
I am not confident that Wills is simply going to step in and be as good as Peters day one.
I think he will get there, but he can use a little mentoring.
Joe might help for a while, but he isn't going to be there every day like a teammate is.
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If we can get Peters for 1-2 years I think we should do it. That 6th OL is so important ... and he’s one of the best. If we want Wills to make the transition, perhaps having him learn from Peters and Thomas .
We’ll see how serious we are about it
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If we can get Peters for 1-2 years I think we should do it. That 6th OL is so important ... and he’s one of the best. If we want Wills to make the transition, perhaps having him learn from Peters and Thomas .
We’ll see how serious we are about it I agree, and as I said, I like the idea of Joe helping the kid, but Joe isn't going to be there every day. Really teaching people takes more than a day or two here, a day or two there.
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We drafted as high as we did because we are prepared to start him day 1. He will have a very good, experienced LG in Bitonio next to him, and a good blocking TE in Hooper. (as well as us having 2 good blocking RBs, and I suppose a FB, as well) We drafted Wills w/the 10th overall pick. I don't think a guy drafted that high [non-qb] should need time on the bench to learn.
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Personally, I would rather sign Warford than Peters, but should we sign Peters, would Wills be on the bench or would he start at RG?
Curious, Is it an easier transition from RT to LT or from RT to RG?
It RT to RG is easier, that could explain the Peters possibility. Giving Wills an easier transition expecting there to be too little off season OTA's/training camp for him to make the more difficult transition.
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