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Iran Leader Denied Bid to Visit Ground Zero


By THOMAS J. LUECK
Published: September 20, 2007
A remark by Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly that the Police Department was considering a request by Iran that its president visit ground zero set off complaints yesterday before the department corrected itself.


Go to City Room » Late in the day, it said, the request had already been turned down.

Iran asked this month that its president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, be permitted to visit ground zero when he attends the opening of the United Nations General Assembly next week.

Paul Browne, the chief spokesman for Commissioner Kelly, said the request — that Mr. Ahmadinejad be allowed to lay a wreath at the former site of the World Trade Center — had been made by Iranian officials earlier this month in a meeting that was also attended by officials of the United States Secret Service and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Mr. Browne said the request was rejected because the Iranians wanted Mr. Ahmadinejad to visit the area of ground zero where construction is under way, but he said that any additional request that he appear near the site of the 9/11 terrorist attack would also be denied out of concerns about security. Although relatives of the victims were allowed to visit the site briefly on the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, members of the public are not allowed into the area.

Mr. Browne’s comments came late yesterday in the form of a clarification of remarks made earlier in the day by Mr. Kelly, who said that a ground zero visit by Mr. Ahmadinejad, a strident critic of the United States and an object of scorn for the Bush administration, was under consideration.

Speaking to reporters at Police Headquarters, Mr. Kelly said that a request had been made by Iran’s Permanent Mission to the United Nations, and “we are talking to them right now.” He said that Mr. Ahmadinejad would not be allowed into the section of ground zero where construction is taking place, but that a visit nearby might be allowed.

“It is something we are prepared to handle if in fact it does happen,” he said.

Mr. Browne said later that Commissioner Kelly had been reviewing several security questions involving many heads of state who will be attending the General Assembly session and that he misspoke when asked about the Iranian leader’s visit.

Mr. Ahmadinejad, elected in 2005, has clashed with the Bush administration over his country’s nuclear program and human rights record, and has faced international criticism for calling the Holocaust a “myth.”

He is expected to arrive in New York on Sunday, address the United Nations on Monday, and leave the city on Wednesday morning, Mr. Kelly said. Mr. Ahmadinejad is also scheduled to speak at Columbia University on Monday. Lee C. Bollinger, the president of Columbia, said yesterday that Mr. Ahmadinejad would speak at a World Leaders Forum, but that strict conditions had been set.

The Iranian president has visited Manhattan before, and been greeted by protest.

A year ago, after he was invited to address the same Columbia forum he is scheduled to attend on Monday, Mr. Ahmadinejad’s invitation was withdrawn.

The possibility of a visit to ground zero, as suggested by Mr. Kelly yesterday, provoked a cool response from the White House.

“This is a matter for the City of New York, but ground zero would be an odd place for the president of a country that is a state sponsor of terror to visit,” said Gordon Johndroe, a White House spokesman.

Before the department’s clarification, the presidential candidates condemned the prospect of Mr. Ahmadinejad’s visiting ground zero.

“It is unacceptable,” said Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. “Under no circumstances,” said Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York. “Ahmadinejad’s shockingly audacious request should be met with a vehement no,” said the former Massachusetts governor, Mitt Romney.

Thank God this has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with being American! We need alittle more of this in our country.


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Diiiiiing.....Diiiiiing....Diiiiiing....

Publicity stunt alert !!!....Publicity stunt alert !!!!!


I say let him go then fix an "unfortunate" contruction zone accident for him.
Perhaps a 50 ton pallet dropped from a crane? SPLAT!!!!

Awwwwww, Mr Iranian President....tooooooooo baaaaaad for you!
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I say let him visit....and have no security in place around him at all. Let the New Yorkers show him some American hospitality. Can't think of an easier way to get rid of this guy and could save billions in future bombs.


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I would like to know why Columbia University wants this clown to speak but they won't allow Military Recruiters or the ROTC on campus. People like this are educating our young people.

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This nutjob HAD to know that permission would not be granted to him but now he can at least say " Hey, I tried to make amends but they wouldn't let me " . I can see that playing well with the I Hate America club when they go over all of our transgressions . I hold out hope that the Iranian people can be reached but we have a ....ummm..spotty record in dealing with them .

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I'm trying to understand why an enemy of this country is being allowed in??


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I would like to give him his very own Ground Zero to visit ... but that would probably not be fair to the Iranian people (who are really mostly pro-Western). Would a few dozen bunker busters at their nuclear sites, their leadership meetings, and their IED factories be too much to ask? I think not.

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... but that would probably not be fair to the Iranian people (who are really mostly pro-Western). (...)




...who voted the democratically-elected Ahmadinejad into office.

And we think that bringing Democracy to the Middle East will change everything for the better...


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We could always hold him for (security reasons) his safety and see if the Iranian govt. will negotiate his release, or better still give him to the British Sailors he kidnapped in the Gulf. ...A little Tea with that Mr. President???

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... but that would probably not be fair to the Iranian people (who are really mostly pro-Western). (...)




...who voted the democratically-elected Ahmadinejad into office.

And we think that bringing Democracy to the Middle East will change everything for the better...





Pretty much...this is the sort of guy a 'free' and 'democratic' Iraq would most likely elect.

And for those that keep calling this guy a 'terrorist'...he's merely an idiot...he's no better or worse than our leader (although I think he may have killed less people).

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This nutjob HAD to know that permission would not be granted to him but now he can at least say " Hey, I tried to make amends but they wouldn't let me " .




You're dead on the money!


Now? He can go to the Muslim world and say...............

"This country preaches about freedom,but they select who they wish to permit it to. They claim they stand for free speech,yet refuse to talk to their enemies. They claim they want peace,but refused my efforts to pay tribute to their victims. See,I had no part of this 9/11. But this *free country* who preaches equality,justice and fairness, tries to manipulate the world into believing that all Muslim nations are the same. "

"They profess that we all are their enemy. Syria,Iran,Afghanastan,Iraq. Now that they have used Pakistan to achieve their purpose,soon they too will be added to the list. Tell me,how can you trust a nation who speaks so highly of freedom and liberty,when they try to portray us all as their enemy. When they say they do not want war,yet refuse to speak with and work with those they proclaim as their enemy?"

" Tell me of Muslim nations that the U.S. isn't using to fullfill and suit their own purpose that they consider not to be their enemy? You see my fellow Muslims,if the U.S. can not talk you into doing exactly as they say,they will try to force you to do it by these decietfull methods. Do not be fooled my brothers.Their ultimate goal is to destroy the Muslim world"


The sad part about this is,his story wouldn't be a tough sell.


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I was listening to a news broadcast on this and they spoke with the father of one of the many people who died that day on 9-11 and he said that the Iranian President probably wants to place a wreath at the site for the terrorists who flew the planes into the towers,not for the people who perished that day.
I say Hell NO !!!!! Don't even allow him in this country.We don't allow other terrorists in here knowinly,so why allow him? I heard he was part of the terror group that held our people hostage in our Embasy over there for over a year when Jimmy Carter was President.
This guy is a real piece of work.

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I heard he was part of the terror group that held our people hostage in our Embasy over there for over a year when Jimmy Carter was President.
This guy is a real piece of work.




Bush says he was, five of the hostages say he was and a former Iranian president says he was "in the building but not directly involved with hostages." The CIA says he wasn't...there was a supposed picture years back, but it was concluded it wasn't him.

One of the leaders in the takeover said that he was actually against it, until it was supported by Khomeni, at which point Ahmadinejad got on board and suggested similar simultaneous action against the Soviets...the CIA says he wasn't...

In the end, it's a controversy, but as far as I've read on the subject, at most, he was merely there and supported it, but not involved directly with hostages.

It's interesting to watch him and Bush butt heads, because they're so strikingly similar - cowboy conservatives who aren't favored by their people because of their respective crusades.

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