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The difference between last week and this week was Anderson's feet. Its amazing what happens when a quarterback actually sets his feet before delivering the ball. His accuracy still needs a lot of work and if he wants tomake that sideline throw to Edwards use the pumpfake to draw the safety in then go over top. Hey best case scenerio is that we have another Drew Brees Phillip Rivers thang going on lol. I know wishful thinking but wouldnt it be nice to see Anderson getting us a high draftpick lol.

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Actually, the difference was that the line did a great job protecting the QB and opening holes for Lewis, the receivers caught the ball and made great plays, and confidence built as the game went on.

DA had a great game and I don't want to say this in fear it's sounding like "sour grapes", but he still has to get his touch under control. There were many passes that, though complete, were the result of outstanding plays by the receivers. Had they been on target, the receiver goes for much more yardage. I'm not taking anything away from the game because it was great.

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I gotta tell ya...I don't think last week's starter coulda done what DA did today.

I think he woulda been sacked at least 3 times.




You also thought Troy Smith should have been the #3 pick, so what you "think" has little merit.

Peen, is this the same QB you called a "bum" a few weeks ago and got mad at me for calling you on it? Now you say you "always liked" him? Man, the winds of the fairweather fans are flowing strong.




Coach in all fairness..... It is starting to be obvious that you arent going to let Charlie go without taking a little jab at everyone that you can get an angle on for saying anything about the QB position. Give up on the Troy Smith thing already. The kid did more on a football field for this state than few before him did,and it is starting to get a bit long in the tooth


I hardly think Peen is a fair weather fan. I think the "bum" you are referring to just made some people realize what some of the problems were with the offense. I personally didnt care which QB played as long as they were capable of running chud's offense, after yesterday it seems that somebody was better suited to it.


As far as the fanas being"fairweather" for getting behind anderson...

If John Rinaldi was the starting QB and sand won 2 games in a row it would a first around here in along time and be reason for some excitement.

The fans of this team dont owe any allegiances for the crappy play they have endured. If anything we collectively have the right to get excited about whatever we want. Just because the fans are happy about DA's game does not make them fairweather.

To be bluntly honest, niether Anderson on Frye really deserved allegiance from anybody as niether one of them did squat with most of the opportunities they had been given.

Yesterday was the high water mark for any QB here since 99, regardless of what DA's long term sucess is.

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Please stop stating the actual facts of a game because if people really looked at game again, they would see receivers making great adjustments to balls. Winslow just catches whatever crap is thrown his way and BE showed me something yesterday when DA threw him that first medicine ball near the goal line, BE knew he was going to get killed and made a good attempt at catching that ball anyway. DA can be a barn-burner one week, look like a clown the next! We just have to hope that he gets more consistent.

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LOL, actually, I'm happy for the Browns and for Frye that he is gone and gotten past it. It's the "jabs" that Ammo is taking at Frye that I take issue with. Funny how you were pimping Smith, too, so you defend Ammo. The "kid" did a whole lot....like showing up for a national championship out of shape, laughing and joking with the opposition while getting killed on the field, forming his "posse" to follow him around the banquet circuit instead of concentrating on the biggest game of his life, took money from boosters, and on and on and on. The point is that Ammo is offering his "expert" opinion on QBs like he has a clue as to what it takes to play the position.

The "bum" comment was that both players were "bums" and couldn't play QB. You are also dead wrong. ANY player on the Browns roster deserve our allegiance because they play for the Browns. It's that simple.

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What we have to hope for is that the entire offense continues to play like they did. If so, they can make up for any shortcomings at the QB position whether it be the inconsistent DA or the rookie BQ.

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Please stop stating the actual facts of a game because if people really looked at game again, they would see receivers making great adjustments to balls. Winslow just catches whatever crap is thrown his way and BE showed me something yesterday when DA threw him that first medicine ball near the goal line, BE knew he was going to get killed and made a good attempt at catching that ball anyway. DA can be a barn-burner one week, look like a clown the next! We just have to hope that he gets more consistent.




Of course the receivers made great plays...hell the TD to Edwards where he dove for it was all Edwards cuz it was a terrible throw. But think of how many plays in the NFL where the throws are iffy and the receiver makes a play on the ball...it happens more often than you'd think. It makes the QB look good and deservedly so but the receiver should get credit too.

Anderson's still NOT ACCURATE. Make NO mistake about it. But that's being way too nitpicky about what was otherwise a GREAT GAME by him.

I had a hunch he was better than Frye just based on his pocket presence alone.

The line gets all the credit in the world and so does Jamal but DA got the ball out quickly as well. I truly don't think that other guy who's off to Seattle now could have done this.

Waiting for the Troy Smith reply from the so-called "coach" who's making a mockery of himself the more he mentions Troy. It's becoming like a broken record. *yawn*

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The Troy comments are not nearly as broken record as your hatred of a kid that showed nothing but class during his time with the Browns and that continues to do so to this day. You talking about a "so called" coach is laughable, too. You've proven your lack of football knowledge and then say things about me? Stop embarassing yourself. You're a kid that's sole accomplishment is (supposedly) playing on the line in high school. Anytime you want to compare resumes, I'll embarass you on that level just like I do on your QB evaluation skills.

I already said that the accuracy issue was nitpicking. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. As I said before, if you look at the offense as a whole, they ALL stepped up their play. Unfortunately, you take the WHOLE OFFENSE improving as proof of some vague claim you made in pre-season. It doesn't matter what you "truly think" because Frye isn't here and doesn't equate into Sunday's performance. It's just more slamming by an immature and angry person over getting stiffed for an autograph you felt entitled to. Grow up and try to show a FRACTION of the class the guy you constantly slam shows.

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Coach you make good points... Especially the entire team improving and about certain posters and their flip flopping shall we say... We all are gulity of that form time to time...

DA is what he is... Plain up... IMO you know what he is at this point in time... So don't fall into the yeterday trap... Any QB that is of NFL quality is supposed to be able to perform with the kind of time and looks that DA was getting yesterday... We both know with the rookie DB in the Bengals secondary and the safety helping secondary calls they were running there would be WR's & TE's opened all day... And there were... DA had the time to find them... He stood in the pocket, was pateint, went through his progressions and made plays...

I'm excited to see what our 0 can do, if they improve again this week, against a good D... We won't have to wait long to find out... We shall see!

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Please stop stating the actual facts of a game because if people really looked at game again, they would see receivers making great adjustments to balls. Winslow just catches whatever crap is thrown his way and BE showed me something yesterday when DA threw him that first medicine ball near the goal line, BE knew he was going to get killed and made a good attempt at catching that ball anyway. DA can be a barn-burner one week, look like a clown the next! We just have to hope that he gets more consistent.



Ain't it the truth... our much maligned receivers played the games of their lives, it was just neat they each did it on the same day. DA had a great day and I'll take nothing away from him... but the fact remains that except for a diving catch by a WIDE OPEN Edwards, we're bashing him for missing a TD... then there were several instances of our receivers going down or up to catch balls that, had they been on target, could have yielded YAC... then there was the best one, the quick stop route to Edwards down by the goal line.. he goes 2 yards, stops and turns, the ball is so far over his head that he doesn't even bother to jump... He looked like a first baseman on a throw that goes into the stands...

Also if we don't win there is the pass to JJ after the fumbled snap when he was WIDE OPEN and Anderson threw it 5 yards out of bounds... he played well, make no mistake, but if we lose that game, there would still be reason to be critical of him.


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The difference between last week and this week was Anderson's feet. Its amazing what happens when a quarterback actually sets his feet before delivering the ball. His accuracy still needs a lot of work and if he wants tomake that sideline throw to Edwards use the pumpfake to draw the safety in then go over top. Hey best case scenerio is that we have another Drew Brees Phillip Rivers thang going on lol. I know wishful thinking but wouldnt it be nice to see Anderson getting us a high draftpick lol.




The difference between this and last week isn't Anderson's footwork... it's that he had TIME to set his feet and wait all day because for some unknown reason, the Bengals didn't put pressure on him at all.

Remember in OTAs when everyone was raving about DA as a great QB and the surefire starter... until pads were put on and pressure was applied, which ended in him reverting to a quarterback the coaching staff thought was inferior to Charlie Frye? Well... what happens in an NFL game when pressure is removed from that same guy who thrived without any earlier? He thrives again.

In this game, the same problems that cost Anderson the starting job were there - he locked onto receivers, had poor accuracy on some balls (though the wideouts bailed him out on many), had no touch, etc. The difference is that because there was no pressure and poor coverage, he was not only able to sit in the pocket all day (which let his poor mobility, poor pocket presence and panic in the face of a blitz go unnoticed), but his receivers were able to make plays on balls that they wouldn't have been able to if coverage had been sound. In the end, the stat sheet masks any deficiencies, but they're there.

This isn't taking anything away from DA yesterday. The fact that he was able to exploit that situation as well as he did is something Charlie was probably not capable of doing and he certainly looked better than most (myself included) thought he was capable of being. However, one shootout against a horrible defense serves as nothing other than a temporary reason to smile... this isn't Drew Brees here, this is a guy we didn't think starting caliber just one week ago behind a guy we thought worthy of only a 6th rounder.

I don't like to rain on anyone's parade but people are getting way too carried away with Anderson right now. If he keeps this up up until the bye week, I'm officially a believer. However, right now, I won't be surprised in the slightest if he falls to his habits of old once the pressure cooker is turned on high by coordinators who watch enough film to know the way to beat DA.

My only hope is that he lasts long enough for Quinn to escape the meat of our schedule.


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Peen, is this the same QB you called a "bum" a few weeks ago and got mad at me for calling you on it? Now you say you "always liked" him? Man, the winds of the fairweather fans are flowing strong.




I always favored him over Chuck...there has been no question on that.

"Fairweather fan"???

Sorry man....you don't even begin to have a clue.

I live 600 miles away....have season tickets...I went to 5 games last year, 4 the year before and 4 the year before that, and that, and that. And I can prove that through various posters on this board

I plan on 5 games this year.

So tell me...how many games have you been to in the last few years??


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No need to. Nice to see you and the Missus @ home opener.


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Honestly to me, Anderson answered nothing.

Sure he had a great game, but even a blind squirrel can find an acorn every now and then. He made mistakes but every QB does. I want to see some consistency.

Let's see Anderson do the same when:
* There is a guy is in his face. (Remember the play where one of LB's was right in front of Palmer and he still made the throw to Johnson in the end zone. Personally, I think Anderson would have been sacked on that same play.)
* When there is consistent pressure.
* When a team that can blitz effectively, does so..etc

I am basically saying what I said last week, this week. 1 week doesn't make a season good or bad.

I still predict this team will win 5-6 games...


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Anderson showed that his armstrength makes him a great fit for Chuds system--which seems to favor a vertical passing attack.

He showed that when we ease the pressure on him by running the ball effectively, then he can see some success.

Personally, I loved how we converted 3rd downs with ease--by getting the ball down the field.

Other than his lone INT, Anderson showed a good awareness on the field and a knack for getting the ball deep down the field in a hurry. And though it can be said that his receivers bailed him out on a few throws--it can just as easily be said that Anderson gavve his receivers the opportunities to MAKE the plays.

Thats the biggest thing that DA did--he gave our playmakers the opportunity to make plays.


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I could not have said it better. Nothing has changed. Last week he was a second string QB on a bad team and guess what he still is. Anyone who has changed their mind after Sunday are not looking at the big picture!


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I could not have said it better. Nothing has changed. Last week he was a second string QB on a bad team and guess what he still is. Anyone who has changed their mind after Sunday are not looking at the big picture!




Corpus, you are always optimistic and a facts based person. I respect that. He did answer that he can read a defense better than Frye and Sunday proved our offense has trust in him. If he doesn't turn the ball over that a plus in my mind. Week 1 he made some good plays, because sometimes the best play is the one you don't make. But yes, there is a much bigger picture at hand my friend.

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He did answer that he can read a defense better than Frye and Sunday proved our offense has trust in him.




You get no argument from me on that point. I guess my position is that being better than Frye (which should be a given) does not give me goose bumps. When Quinn gets a few games under center I believe those goose bumps are going to break out everywhere!


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I will tell you one thing I am thrilled about ....... and that's having a QB ..... at any point in the season ... with 3 times as many TDs and INTs.

I don't expect that to continue ..... but it's nice for now.


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Peen.... You are no fairweather fan. You love the Browns, that's for sure

But I do remember you throwing him to trash after a pre-season game........lol. You said some of the nature of both suck. You went into the game optimisitc and then after the game you weren't very at all. For some reason I remember this.

Although you did hype him up before the season and didn't think Frye was the answer......


Now I don't think DA is the answer at all, but he is good enough until after the Bye week or if we continue winning IMO........Every now and then a player plays well, let's not overanalyze DA's game of his life


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I will tell you one thing I am thrilled about ....... and that's having a QB ..... at any point in the season ... with 3 times as many TDs and INTs.

I don't expect that to continue ..... but it's nice for now.




After Sunday we should all be happy as hell (and I am) but I guess next week has me worried. I truly want to get past the being worried about next week but to be honest I don't think that ever goes away. It's the NFL!


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He showed that teams cant really blitz him like they would charlie. He will make some awfull throws and picks but he`ll also throw some nice td`s and deep balls. He has the arm to make any throw.

I just hope quinn has enough arm that it wont be too much a downgrade. Maybe he`ll just take care of the ball more than derick.

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The difference between last week and this week was Anderson's feet. Its amazing what happens when a quarterback actually sets his feet before delivering the ball.




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I dissagree with this poor assessment made out of eagerness to see our 1st round QB play.




Poor assessment???...lmao...Sounds to me like SOLID OPINION BASED ON FACT...All u gotta do is look at previous game tapes...

U guys jumpin' on the Anderson bandwagon are gonna be severely disappointed...And SOON...



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Nor would anyone else...Problem is...The likelihood of DA playing like that EVERY WEEK IS SLIM AND NONE...Open your eyes...

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ALL doubt was eliminated the Day we pulled Frye and confirmed IN STONE the day we traded em'...The DOUBT was there when these ying yangs runnin' the show were flippin coins and couldn't decide who was the #1 on this team...The media ATE IT UP...DOUBT GONE...

Anderson is holding the fort until we deem Quinn ready...FACT...

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I don't give a rats ass about Romo...He prolly would've never seen the field if it weren't for Bledsoe suckin' wind...An UDFA out of Eastern Illinois is about as likely to EVER SEE THE FIELD as YOU ARE...GMAFB...I GUARANTEE ya' the PLAN WAS NOT to groom this kid to be the Starting QB in Dallas upon his pick up...

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As PIT said...U KNOW what u can do with that comment...

U wanna be a SMART FAN???...PRAY that we deem Anderson a capable #2...THAT will help this team much more than HOPING he can be a #1...Cause it's rather OBVIOUS that at some point in time Quinn WILL BE THE #1...And I'd betcha it's MUCH SOONER THAN U THINK...


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Peen, like I told you before I never doubted that DA was good enough to be a backup. I pretty much assumed that was a given. Especially on this team. What I don't go along with is this tremendous groundswell of love he's getting since Sunday. If DA puts together 2 crap performances in the next 2 weeks people will be ready to shitcan him just like they were with Charlie. They'd be wrong with Derek just like they were with Charlie.

When Quinn is ready this is all a moot point anyway. Even if DA has a couple of really good performance in Oakland and home against Baltimore (Oakland maybe. Baltimore, I doubt it) Quinn probably starts the game after the bye week. It only makes sense. They're not gonna pay a guy $10 million dollars to keep stats. Especially if we're not winning. JMHO


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What worries me is not Anderson, or Quinn. I think either one of them is capable of being a winning QB. What worries me, and should worry Cincy fans as well, is a defense that allows more than 40 points.... in a victory or a loss....

The best teams in the league do not average 40 points a week on offense. In order to win consistantly in the NFL, you have to play DEFENSE. The only time a 51 point offensive game feels good is WHEN YOU WIN. If Bodden hadn't made the final interception of Palmer, and Cincy would have moved in for a TD, people on here would be calling for Anderson's head because of the final Field Goal was not a Touchdown...

Anderson has proven what he needed to prove, that he is more than capable of running Chud's offense. The major questions now rest on the Defense....


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But I do remember you throwing him to trash after a pre-season game........lol. You said some of the nature of both suck.




I remember.

I was talking about Frye and Anderson and said it doesn't matter, they are both bums who are playing for the back-up spot on this team because Quinn is the starter even if he doesn't start for a while.

Remember, this thread is about Anderson proving he is a qualified back-up.


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That he is without question good enough to be the back-up on this team.

The kid was under some pretty high pressure. We lost last week in miserable fashion and the last guy to start was pretty much cut from the team.

He knew all eyes would be on him and his play.

After a somewhat rocky start, he settled in nicely and his team responded.

Quinn is still the starter in wait, and his time will come soon enough.....but Anderson should have answered any questions some might have had about his ability to be a better than average back-up for this team.




From one game? Lets see what happens for at least a few weeks before we decide.




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I'm with Pdawg on this one, while he did play great and I liked watching put 51 on the board...I wanna wait and see if he can be consistent vs. Raiders also.

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Personally..i see alot of people "picking" on Anderson for alot of things such as Accuracy, ect...how do we really know how accurate he is? ever think just "maybe" he didn't lead the receiver correctly because they have not been playing together like this on a consistent basis?

i fully expect Anderson to Improve..he hasn't proved anything to me, i always though of him as an "average" QB..nothing great, but Average..which is good enough to be a backup on most teams...him and Frye were sort of interchangeable...Frye was mobile, Anderson Stronger arm.

But i seen a "different" DA Sunday...i seen a Da with Confidence...the kid got in a zone and it was just on

Now you Say Cincy never blitzed or pressured him....ha!

There was a few plays we kept Jamal Lewis in the Backfiled to pick up the blitz so Anderson could Air it deep

Most of you probably didn't even notice, But Chud did some Modifications to the Protection Schemes in this game, Cincy Blitzes alsmot as Much as Pittsburgh...they live and die by the turnover...there was quite a few times in that game cincy sent 6 and even 7 guys after Anderson....Chud being the Genuis he is often used "Max Protect" plays on these 3rd and longs...Max Protect means the RB stays in and picks up the Blitzer....it worked like a charm

Also you people fail to give our OL credit..they are beginning to Gell and their Blitz pickups are a big reason Anderson had the time he had today

Good OL make Average QB look good...Kurt Warner has the worst Mechanics in the world, but that Rams OL of 99 would make Kyle Bollar look good..the guy wouldhave all day to throw

I think Anderson had a very good game, No QB is perfect..heck even Big Ben's receivers have to layout for the ball alort more often than you think,.

Anderson just did his job, he did nothing great his paly was, but he just filled his role....Chud's adjustments to the Blocking Schemes after the Steelers game is the "real" reason Anderson had all day and led to the kids success Sunday.....Don't underestimate Chud..he won a National Championship at the U with Ken "Freaking" Dorsey for crying out loud!!! that there is an accomplishment!!!

im not ready to annoit Anderson as the "savior" yet..but if he beats Oakland...that intrest me. if he beats the Ravens...i may get excited..he upsets the Pats...im on the bandwagon

but we will just have to sit back and see what he does

either he will do well or he will fail...but he did play a good game sunday...

but lets give this kid a few games starting before we make any judgements on him..ya know...Coaching can do alot..i seen him look off and pump fake...never seen that last year, so the kid is obviously coachable...lets just wait and see what happens.

hopefully....Anderson can play well enough to keep Quinn on the Bench the rest of the year

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To all haters, if you can't be a true cleveland fan; there's another orange team just south of us that can use your faithfullness.






GMAFB.

Loyalty is fine. Blind loyalty without expecting accountability is moronic.




What were your expectations of this season? Honestly, I am not expecting much this year because we are still missing in some key positions. To fully rebuild after gutting a team takes at least 3 years, then on the 4th you should compete well. Heck, our QB situation isn't even secure this year! Do people honestly believe Quinn go out there and outperform the Bradys, Mannings, and Palmers in his rookie year?

Anderson just gave us more time to better prep Quinn for his future success.

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And we all do...And???




Yeah, by calling for RAC's firing and ranting about putting in a rookie when our own veterans are still learning this offense.

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What do you think of Tony Romo? How many snaps did he get before he got his call last year? He is a great example aof a player that was developed in good fashion, who is now one of the best QBs in the league. Romo was with the Cowboys for 3 years before he threw a ball on gameday.




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I don't give a rats ass about Romo...He prolly would've never seen the field if it weren't for Bledsoe suckin' wind...An UDFA out of Eastern Illinois is about as likely to EVER SEE THE FIELD as YOU ARE...GMAFB...I GUARANTEE ya' the PLAN WAS NOT to groom this kid to be the Starting QB in Dallas upon his pick up...




I bet you wouldn't mind Romo playing on the Browns. My point was sitting on the sideline actually helped groom him.

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As PIT said...U KNOW what u can do with that comment...

U wanna be a SMART FAN???...PRAY that we deem Anderson a capable #2...THAT will help this team much more than HOPING he can be a #1...Cause it's rather OBVIOUS that at some point in time Quinn WILL BE THE #1...And I'd betcha it's MUCH SOONER THAN U THINK...




I'm not saying that he isn't going to be the number 1 guy eventually. I just hope that he is better prepared than Frye was before we throw him in the fire.

I'm not putting the arguement that Anderson is a great QB either. I think his accuracy sucks also and he's too hit or miss. With more game time that will get better. I'd like to see him develop as well to be a solid number 2. This season is doing that.

Plus, keeping DA in longer reduces the risk of losing Quinn to an injury with a line that is new to this offense, much less playing together. And if Anderson gets hurt, everybody gets their wish to see Mr.Quinn take the spotlight. But if he sucks also, who will Browns fans be chanting at the game?

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I'm not saying that he isn't going to be the number 1 guy eventually. I just hope that he is better prepared than Frye was before we throw him in the fire.

I'm not putting the arguement that Anderson is a great QB either. I think his accuracy sucks also and he's too hit or miss. With more game time that will get better. I'd like to see him develop as well to be a solid number 2. This season is doing that.




Now we're in total agreement...

Things are developing extremely well to set Quinn up for the best possible scenario for success...

A REAL OL
A REAL LT
A REAL #1 WR
A REAL TE
A REAL RB
A REAL OC



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...boy, I'll say.
Scared the bageezus out of me.
I watched the NFL Replay of the game last night and I liked what he said about the INT after half time. He said he came out of the half 'all fired up' and made a stupid throw. He told the guys on the sideline that he was just going to take what the D was giving him from that point on.


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Scared the bageezus out of me.
I watched the NFL Replay of the game last night and I liked what he said about the INT after half time. He said he came out of the half 'all fired up' and made a stupid throw. He told the guys on the sideline that he was just going to take what the D was giving him from that point on.




Actually Vette...That could've been an excellent play...

What Anderson did was STARE AT BREY the entire time...The safety cheated over to that side of the field MAJORLY and broke on the throw for the pick...

Brey had the Corner beat bad...IF Anderson woulda looked off he'd a hit Edwards in stride and he was GONE...


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well, Anderson still was off the mark on his throw. Braylon was already moving upfield and the ball was well behind him. That ball should have been thrown to the left of the defender to allow Bray to run into it or over the defender for Braylon to run under it. It was just ugly .... and yeah, he couldn't have stared him down any harder if he was a statue. The defender didn't have to read him, Anderson telegraphed it loud & clear. You're right though, a simple look off, or even a pump fake, could have made the difference on that play.


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Remember, Holcomb lit up the Bengals a few years back as well. He appeared to be, at the very least, a capable and long term backup for this team. Where is he today?




A difference is that we won this game. We were driving for a possible win in the Holcomb game when he threw a crippled duck in the flat that the DB had read from instant we broke the huddle. TD Cincy.

All peen is saying is that Anderson has shown he's capable of being our 2nd string QB. It's hard to argue that. He has what it takes to be on an NFL roster. Some say he stares down receivers. No one does that as well as Kelly "Western Union" Holcomb, so as long as he's in the NFL there's no reason for Anderson not to be.

The only glitch I can see is him being reluctant to step back into a #2 spot after being the starter for what I hope is the entire season. Not saying I think he will, I don't know the guy. I'm just wondering.

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As far as Anderson in concerned, if Joe Jurevicious has faith in him than so do I. That's all I have to say about that.


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As far as Anderson in concerned, if Joe Jurevicious has faith in him than so do I. That's all I have to say about that.




What, did you expect Joe to say he hates Anderson's inaccuracy and can't wait for Brady to take over? Here's a quote from Joe two weeks ago: "Charlie is our quarterback," veteran wideout Joe Jurevicius said.

Whenever a quarterback takes over the starting job, you're going to hear the exact same things over and over and over again from his receivers... "*Insert name here*'s our guy." "We went and told *insert name here* we believe in him." "We think that we can make some things happen with *insert name here*." None of it actually means anything, they're just trying to bring up the confidence of the guy that they're stuck with for the short (or long) term. Better to do that than to bring him down by calling for another guy.

The real test will be if Brady takes some snaps in-game... wonder what our receivers will be saying then?


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