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As a centrist, I ask this question from a logic-only perspective. If they have a problem with the vaccine because it was developed from two fetuses 60+ years ago, don't they have other things they can't use because they were developed or tested on animals or humans? Heck, shouldn't they also have a problem living in the US because we dropped the bomb on Japan twice, killing thousands of civilians? Here's a little secret for you. We killed far more Japanese by firebombing Tokyo than those two nukes. We would have killed far more on both sides if we had invaded.
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Classic!  I want to hear how you rationalize laughing at someone who got sick after suing to not get a vaccine, because it's not cool to laugh at players getting injured. In my book you don't laugh at someone's misfortune, even if they brought it on themselves. Then don't include me in your book. No need to rationalize anything. I've never looked at chickenpox as a "misfortune", but you can frame it however you wish. That said, yeah, not a good look on my part but tbh I'm laughing at the irony, not the fact that someone got sick.
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As a centrist, I ask this question from a logic-only perspective. If they have a problem with the vaccine because it was developed from two fetuses 60+ years ago, don't they have other things they can't use because they were developed or tested on animals or humans? Heck, shouldn't they also have a problem living in the US because we dropped the bomb on Japan twice, killing thousands of civilians? Here's a little secret for you. We killed far more Japanese by firebombing Tokyo than those two nukes. We would have killed far more on both sides if we had invaded. Yeah, I watch a lot of those documentaries. The "WW2 in color" on Netflix is crazy awesome. I think it's 12 episodes and each is one hour long. I remember the pilots were saying, about the fire bombing raids, they could see the fire some crazy amount of miles away. Like the glow was so bright you could see it behind the curve of the earth.
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I want to hear how you rationalize laughing at someone who got sick after suing to not get a vaccine, because it's not cool to laugh at players getting injured. In my book you don't laugh at someone's misfortune, even if they brought it on themselves. If a football player made the choice to go out and play with no pads and no helmet while every body else was wearing pads and a helmet I'm going to laugh at him.
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What I'm seeing is the CDC manufacturing an outbreak scare, so they can promote an agenda (and probably their budget).
If they (the gov't in general) spent half as much time promoting healthy behavior and getting rid of common things that compromise immune response (manufacturing, agricultural, and pharmacological practices) instead of focusing on obscure diseases that sound scary, we'd all be better off.
I'm not saying vaccines are bad, per se. However, how many vaccines does one need? Should one be vaccinated for everything? How many of you have been vaccinated for Anthrax? I was, still have the scar.
Who makes the measles vaccine? What has their profit margin looked like recently? Any of you played Plague, Inc.?
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I want to hear how you rationalize laughing at someone who got sick after suing to not get a vaccine, because it's not cool to laugh at players getting injured. In my book you don't laugh at someone's misfortune, even if they brought it on themselves. If a football player made the choice to go out and play with no pads and no helmet while every body else was wearing pads and a helmet I'm going to laugh at him. But then Bobby Boucher lays out the TE and knocks his butt out and you stop laughing and say: DISKIODO!! 
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What I'm seeing is the CDC manufacturing an outbreak scare, so they can promote an agenda (and probably their budget).
If they (the gov't in general) spent half as much time promoting healthy behavior and getting rid of common things that compromise immune response (manufacturing, agricultural, and pharmacological practices) instead of focusing on obscure diseases that sound scary, we'd all be better off.
I'm not saying vaccines are bad, per se. However, how many vaccines does one need? Should one be vaccinated for everything? How many of you have been vaccinated for Anthrax? I was, still have the scar.
Who makes the measles vaccine? What has their profit margin looked like recently? Any of you played Plague, Inc.?
Looks like you're on to something. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/merck-whistleblowers_b_5881914.html
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Serves you right in my book "Be Careful What You Wish For", I guess. Got what he wanted with lawsuit and results, and also infected. Irony is deafening in this. Karma is always a boomerang.
And if he is upset, he should understand just how angry other infected folks feel who did not want it either. Get vaccinated.
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Serves you right in my book "Be Careful What You Wish For", I guess. Got what he wanted with lawsuit and results, and also infected. Irony is deafening in this. Karma is always a boomerang.
And if he is upset, he should understand just how angry other infected folks feel who did not want it either. Get vaccinated. If you read the article, you'll find he sued to get to go to school so he could catch it and get over it. Ky bans unvaccinated students from attending school if there is a disease outbreak. Who needs the full context of the situation though?
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What I'm seeing is the CDC manufacturing an outbreak scare, so they can promote an agenda (and probably their budget).
If they (the gov't in general) spent half as much time promoting healthy behavior and getting rid of common things that compromise immune response (manufacturing, agricultural, and pharmacological practices) instead of focusing on obscure diseases that sound scary, we'd all be better off.
I'm not saying vaccines are bad, per se. However, how many vaccines does one need? Should one be vaccinated for everything? How many of you have been vaccinated for Anthrax? I was, still have the scar.
Who makes the measles vaccine? What has their profit margin looked like recently? Any of you played Plague, Inc.?
Looks like you're on to something. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/merck-whistleblowers_b_5881914.html Maybe Big Vaxx needs to be viewed with the same amount of cynicism and skepticism as Big Pharma?
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Maybe we should go back to the days when Polio and Tuberculosis were common place.
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Maybe we should go back to the days when Polio and Tuberculosis were common place. Better sanitation is the only reason TB isn't common. Unless you know something the CDC doesn't know, because you won't find a vaccine for it on these lists. The last links I shared was a story about Merck being in court because they lied about the efficacy of the MMR vaccine. I wonder how many other diseases have been diminished by regular hand washing and better overall sanitation. I'm not anti vax, I just think all things mandated by government should be under constant scrutiny. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.htmlhttps://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/adult.html
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Maybe we should go back to the days when Polio and Tuberculosis were common place. Hey man, if you're stupid enough to not be at least a little curious about what's being put in our bodies, that's on you.
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Merck Political Contributions Link Since starting my business degree, I can't help but notice that pretty much everything that happens has some "business" component. Following the money can lead you to see interesting connections. For example, 28 politicians in Washington own Merck stock. 3/4 Of Merck's (I'm assuming well-compensated) lobbyists used to work in government. Someone can double-check my math but it looks like Merck is in the top 5% of companies in both political Contributions and money spent on lobbying. It's interesting.
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Hey man, if you're stupid enough to not be at least a little curious about what's being put in our bodies, that's on you.
After watching measles wiped out in America, what I'm not stupid enough to do is go back and try to re-write history based on some far fetched conspiracy theory.
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After seeing a seemingly normal baby develop into a child with autism, I understand the concern.
I think the legitimate question is at what age should we vaccinate?
Autistic tendencies normally are apparent after a year or so.
We study the benefits of mothers milk on a babies immune system, yet inject them with denatured materials to produce antibodies to fight disease.
What if their immune system is not sufficiently developed?
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Yes, very scary stuff, either way.
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Measles Cases in 2019. From January 1 to May 3, 2019, 764** Individual cases of measles have been confirmed in 23 states. This is an increase of 60 cases from the previous week. This is the greatest number of cases reported in the U.S. since 1994 and since measles was declared eliminated in 2000. https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html CDC Update: There are now 940 cases in 26 States. 60 new cases this week. Previous record 958 cases in 1994. Be informed, be aware. That is all...
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