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With the 49th selection in the 2019 NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select ...

--Erik McCoy, C/OG Texas A&M
--Amari Hooker, SS, Iowa
--Abdurrahman "Rock" Ya-Sin, CB Temple
^realistically

Naturally if a prospect who rated much higher slides, like a DT or CB for instance, then the board would be adjusted accordingly.

Julian Love CB ND
Zach Allen DE/DT BC
Irv Smith Jr. TE Alabama
Jachai Polite DE/OLB Florida
Jerry Tillery DE/DT ND
Chauncey Gardner-Johnson S

Rapp - S - WA
Adderley - S - DE
Thompson - S - AL
Abram - S - MSST
G-Johnson - S - FLA
Hanks - LB - NM
Jenkins - OG/C - MSST
Simmons - DT - MSST

As of now, one of these guys (in no particular order):

Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple
Jonathan Abram, SS, Mississippi St
Taylor Rapp, SS, Washington
Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, SS, Florida

Rapp will likely be gone, but he'd be my first choice.

I would take Love or Tillary if they where avalible @49.

https://youtu.be/DrsJ8IixO5g

--Eric McCoy @ 10:58; 21;45

I made my selections assuming that Rapp will be off the board. With CG-J I see his talents being waisted @SS, but then I don't know what the coaches are looking for at our other Safety.

Rock Ya-Sin is pretty raw, but he has first round potential.

Maybe Simmons slips because of his injury. I know it’s delayed gratification as he won’t play until 2020. Either way he’s a first round talent at a position of need...and we don’t have a first round pick.

Guys who i'd like:

Chauncey G-Johnson
Nasir Adderley
Chris Lindstrom

I do wonder if we'd think of trying to move up a few slots if someone we liked was there.

If somehow one of Byron Murphy, Deandre Baker or Adderley was still on the board around 2.10, I'd try and jump and get them.

A LB I really like - maybe not at 49 - is Long of WV. He's a little undersized but he plays like a dervish and can cover.

I know we should go BPA but I think all other things being equal we need to look at S, CB, LB, with OG being a consideration perhaps if a guy fell.

I think that there is a good chance of Simmons falling out of the first round, but I could definitely see a team taking him in the second.

It would be hard to pass on him @49.

We are all in on 2018. We need a guy that will play.

I don't know that we are all in. We still have a few more years to get this done.

If we can find a starting type player in round 2, then we probably need to do that. If we are going to get a rotational guy or someone who is going to have to sit, Simmons makes sense.

I hear you but I think Dorsey is ‘all in’ on making us a consistent winner for the next decade plus. If Simmons is there it’s hard not to take that kind of talent. Even if you’ve got to wait a year to get it on the field. If he plays the next 5 to 10 years for us at a pro bowl level he’s part of the long term plan to sustain a championship level team. Dan Snider built teams with an ‘all in’ mentality but never with any plan to sustain it.
Sheldon Richardson is 28 if I recall. Why not draft his successor while he’s in place?
I guess what I’m saying is you can be all in and build with the future in mind.

Right. But there are other players who can contribute this year and in the future.

I see both sides, I just don't see us doing it.

If Simmons is there at 49 I take him without hesitation. He's a top 10 talent. I wouldn't ignore that with the 49th selection.

If he's not there I would easily take Dexter Lawrence. If neither of them is available then I start looking at the secondary.

Chauncey Gardner Johnson would be a great addition. Looking for a SS, Thornhill grades high enough for 49 if he can play in the box.

Justin Layne might make sense, Rock Ya-Sin or JoJuan Williams.

I come back to Ranel Wren he would get consideration from me.

As a Gator, I am big on CG Johnson. He's a good player.

Me too Peen, but I see him more as a FS.

No doubt he moves like a free safety and lines up as a nickle more than any safety in this class, but the kid plays with all kinds of fun violence.

That said
Option 1) burn the 4th and maybe a 6th to move up to get Simmons if he gets near pick 40 (Richardson's deal is more of a two year pact with a 3rd year option anyway and our DT play last year was nauseating).

Option 2) Rapp and Adderley seem better moving in free space, for SS give me Gardner-Johnson

I can't believe I'm saying this, but unless someone has a bad fall down the draft boards...I don't even know if I'd have a 3rd option.

*L* Expand your horizon dawg ...

If we take CG-J @49 I would be okay with that, but I see him playing more of a big nickel role, with Kindred as our base SS.

Until I can see how we will run our defense it is hard to project how we will use our safeties.

I can't. Spent almost a full week grinding through 7 minutes youtube game cut ups and those are still the only two guys that "could" be there that I like.

Stupid tunnel vision... maybe I should start looking at TE's...that would be new-ish (only watched about a half dozen of them to find my "late-round flyer" guy.

I think that we should take the best player available but Ideally that best player would be aDB or a Lb. Players I would like include:

Mack Wilson Lb Alabama. Doubt he will fall to #49 but I say him fall this far in one mock so I am including him. He would be my number one option/hope.

Other Lb's I would consider:
Tre Lamar Clemson
Germaine Pratt NCST
D'Andre Walker Georgia

I think all three of those have a reasonable possibility of being available in the 3rd.

The Db's I like:

These are the ones with an outside chance of being there at #49
Taylor Rapp Washington - my top Db choice
Nasir Adderley Delaware

These have a really good possibility of being available at #49
Trayvon Mullen Clemson
Amani Oruwariya Penn St
C Gardner-Johnnson Florida
Rock Ya-Sin Temple
Justin Layne MSU
Jamel Dean Auburn


Between our 2nd and 3rd round picks I would like to get a player from each of those position group.

Great class of TE to be sure ... from 1-7

Nice breakdown ...

Wilson is a guy that is in my radar @49, it all depends on if we see him as an WIL or a MIKE and his availability?

Man, the Draft just doesn't seem to have the same importance this year as in years past. I know that's a dumb thought,,, I get it, but I can't help it, I'm not that worried about it this year for the first time since...... Forever

At this point, I look around and with what the Browns have done in Free agency this year and last, Trades they've made this year and last and of course, last years draft, we don't need much.. (I forgot to add in the Miles Garrett and David Njoku draft)

Of course, we can improve some positions, LB, Safety and add a DB or two or maybe a kicker (maybe), but essentially, if we went into the season right where we are, it would be an improvement.

Always gotta look for ways to improve, but still, no drama this year... No "we gotta get this QB or that QB"! None of that.d

Man I got no idea where to go in this draft.. None

If Jachai Polite is there, would you take him?

Had a poor combine and has some red flags, but was in the early edge rusher discussion for a while. He could still be long gone, but looks like a guy that could fall. Has some Freeney to his game. Might be a headcase, though.

If Oruwariye is there, he's probably my pick. Lack of starts is a small concern, but we wouldn't have to rush him. We have capable vets, but I think he'd be a long-term upgrade (and maybe starting sooner rather than later.) Size and ball skills with the way our rush is shaping up? Yes, please.

I'd look at a SS later. Marquise Blair, Utah, maybe.

Michael Dogbe, DL, Temple is another name I'll have my eye on later.

I need to watch Mack Wilson. Somehow I haven't yet. Had a bit of tunnel vision on White/Bush in the early rounds at LB.

I wouldn't take Lamar or Pratt at 49.

Lamar sounds like a liability in the passing game, though I do need to watch more of him. Was focused more on the DL while watching (a lot of) Clemson, and he really never gave me a "who is that guy?" moment.

Pratt reminds me of a poor man's D'Qwell Jackson. Less physical, though. Lots of tackles down the field. Instincts not there (possibly a matter of time as a former safety.)

I don't hate Rapp, but he kind of seems a high floor, low-ish ceiling guy. Solid all around, but no wow traits. Will probably stick around the league for a while, but I'd let someone else take him early. Round 3- possibly, Round 4- definitely for me.

Jamel Dean has some medical flags, I think. Not saying I wouldn't take him, but they'd need to be thoroughly vetted.

I don't know much about the draft after the 1st and 2nd rounds. I do get a lot of info from my fellow posters on players from late 2nd on down. I don't know who we will draft and I won't even speculate because we aren't drafting until #49 and a lot can happen until we get to that pick. However, if I were drafting for us I would load up on the best D players available. On paper we could easily have a top 5 O next year. We need a D that can consistently stop our opponents so Baker can be on the field as much as possible. We should be able to move the ball on anyone as long as the o-line plays well. We have the playmakers. JMO

Jachai Polite is nothing more than a PRS at this point, and he comes with some maturity issue's ... He better hope to change the minds of the scouts at his pro-day on the 27th. I viewed him as a 34 Edge even before the combine (in which he is said to have had a hammy), but after his interviews many teams have taken him off their boards.

I am a big fan of Chris Lindstrom too.
Great feet and recovery ability and his head is on a swivel looking for work.
He might be avalible @80, which is where I would take him.

Agreed on all parts. The think I like about Gardner-Johnson is that he can play either safety or any of the cornerback positions. I should have listed him as generic DB

I do believe Defense will be the pick at #49 but what if Paris Campbell is available? Not only does he possess 4:31 speed but also has great hands, and would add to an already stacked WR corp (OBJ, Landry, Callaway, Higgins and add TE Njoku) he would also solidify our return game the kid was great when he returned kicks at OSU …. Ok be easy on me

The dream is nice while it last.

Sorry Pastor, but our 1st and our(a) 3rd are aboard that ship that just sailed away together with the chance at selecting Paris Campbell.

Not going to argue that but it is a nice thought

Sorry man....we just signed this guy name Odell. Did you hear about it?



How many friggen receivers do you want on the team? If we draft a receiver in the 2nd, or to a lesser degree anywhere, my wife better make sure there is no rope in the house because I might hang myself from the backyard tree.

We have good receivers dude. Forget receiver. Look elsewhere.

Trust me, it still takes defense to win championships. If you get to the playoffs, you better have a good D or you are going home.

I may not know anything about this years draft class, but if they sign a player named Rock Ya Sin, I'm just going to call him Rock the Casbah.

and, no, SEE, see, there's a reason why I don't want, see, if you can (see,) what I'm trying to say see, I hope the Browns don't get a player with the last name of Rapp, see, haha,

but again I don't know anything about this years draft, just been too busy.

" It's Acille Tyree coach"

I don't think you'll need that rope, because Dorsey is not taking a WR before the fifth. If that.

He could surprise us, I suppose.

j/c:

I am not trying to kill the discussion and it's cool that you guys are all talking football. That's a great thing.

It's just that guys like Sashi, Farmer, etc are gone and Dorsey is in charge. It's kinda like are guys like us really going to question what Dorsey does?

I think I know a lot about football. I played. I coached. I even worked for a collegiate scouting service for two years because I thought I would have more family time than I did while I was coaching. LOL......that was a wrong assumption.

But........John Dorsey is the Man! I am at the point where he has earned my complete trust and I'm cool w/whatever he does. That opinion might change in the future, but this guy has made one great move after another. It's almost surreal.

He's been on a big-time tear. Cutting Britt on day 1 was a good first day.

And it's gotten better since.

But if he takes a WR before - I'll say the fourth round, to allow him some leeway - he will be scrutinized.

I definitely wouldn't take a Wr in round #2 or #3. But if a really good Wr (Hakeem Butler, Deebo Samuel, Parris Campbell) drops to round 4, I wouldn't take issue with drafting one. We have OBJ and Landry. Two top notch Wr's. Calloway, A 2nd year guy with lots of potential. Higgins hasn't signed his tender yet. He will probably be back but he may not. Even if he is, he is a solid guy. Nothing more. He will never be anything more than Wr3 quality.

Will they all stay healthy? How long will they stay with us? It wouldn't hurt to have another young Wr to develop. Especially if they can return kicks.