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RASHARD HIGGINS
WR, CLEVELAND BROWNS

Browns GM John Dorsey said the team plans to tender restricted free agent WR Rashard Higgins.

He said the same about CB Briean Boddy-Calhoun, although he did not reveal at which level he will tender the pair. Higgins caught 39 passes for 572 yards and four touchdowns last season. A fifth-round pick back in 2016, an original-round tender should be enough to keep him around.

SOURCE: Mary Kay Cabot on Twitter
Feb 28, 2019, 11:00 AM

Why do they want to tender just his booty?

I too enjoy tender booty.

Your autocorrect just revealed that you are either a pirate or something else.

BRESHAD PERRIMAN
WR, CLEVELAND BROWNS

Browns GM John Dorsey plans to meet with Breshad Perriman's agent at the Combine.

Dorsey has said he wants to re-sign Perriman, and it is possible the two sides hammer out a deal this week. The former first-rounder caught 16 passes for 340 yards and two touchdowns in 10 games with the Browns last season.

SOURCE: Nate Ul
Feb 28, 2019, 11:37 AM

I hope they can find a meeting point. Perriman is probably looking for a flat out dollar figure while the team is probably looking at a more incentive based figure.

I'm sure you liked what you saw of Perriman this year for us, so did I, but his history isn't terrific.

I hope we can do a show me kinda deal at least. I'd like to keep him. He really took the top off the defense a few times.

Based on his agent ... i’m NOT optimistic at all ...

When u choose Drew to be your agent you only care about one thing and one thing only ...

LOVED what i saw from Perriman but it was an extremely limited sample size and I’m sure Drew will WAY WAY WAY OVERVALUE him for what he’s actually done ...

IMO our best shot at him will be AFTER he tests the market ... just like with Pryor ... he’ll find out on the open market that Drew has way overvalued him ..

Thats a bummer ... but hopefully KJ will find someone else if we can’t get it done with Perriman ...

I always had the same loyalty to my employer that they had to me. Pretty much none. My goal was to earn as much money possible during my working life. That was putting myself and my family first.

I'm not saying you were pointing that out in a negative light. But some fans do. And for the life of me I don't understand it.

If I were an NFL player I would be looking for a contract with the most guaranteed money I could find.

When you're a kid coming out of college, and you're a first round NFL talent, absolutely, you go with Drew to maximize your dollars. Three years in, when your career hasn't matched expectations, and you're just beginning to close the gap between you and that elusive brass ring, the Rosenhaus approach of 'every last penny' may not have as much appeal. TP fired DR and has publicly regretted that negotiation. There is hope that Perriman is smart and humble enough to prefer stability to the promise of maximum dollar value.

To keep his butt in Cleveland.
Duh.

Interesting.

It is. Anyone who would place loyalty to a team above that of their own family would make me wonder about their priorities.

JC...

I'm glad they are retaining both players....BBC reminds me of a healthy version of Jimmy Ward- smallish, but versatile between CB and FS...You need that nowadays with pass happy O's

Higgins was always my favorite WR we drafted that year...He seems to be a nice compliment WR, and Baker seems to really enjoy him too. I think he can be like a Darnay Scott clone...

I was never a fan of Perriman ever, and called that both him and Sammie Coates would be busts when they declared for the draft...Given that, he played well and caught the ball and he's our biggest guy and perhaps also the fastest (of our main 5) I don't know how the guy caught 16 passes and expects a big payday? I'll admit, his 16 catches mostly all went for really nice gains. I guess we shall see.

If I see a team as having the best opportunity for me to star, I would take a bit less. If I see a team as having the best opportunity for me to get a ring or 2, I would take a bit less.

However, you are right in that players have a limited career span. If if I'm an NFL player, and I can get a lot more guaranteed money from *puke* the Steelers ..... then I am probably practicing how to understand and speak Yinz.

I understand. Now, extrapolate that. Think outside of just football, and family.

You do/did what was best for you and your family, correct?

Yes I did. Of course those decisions were based on the information I had at the time. Most of us can look back and question some of the decisions we have made but that doesn't change your intentions when making them. And usually a FA is on their second contract. The biggest payday they'll ever receive. That is the best shot at long term financial security for your family.

That may be a consideration because it may make a later contract more favorable. But that second contract is usually a players bread and butter for his career. Also, in the NFL you never know if your body will make it to that third contract. With the average NFL career being 3.3 years, that second contract alone is a blessing.



For me that wouldn't enter into it. SB rings are all about me, not my family.

When u pick Drew it means your a money grubbing whore IMO that cares about nothing but money ... your bottom line has nothing to do what your true worth is but getting every last penny u can out of a deal ...

It appears to me your saying every other agent in the business (not every other one .. there is a few other “whores” out there also) doesn’t do right by their clients because they don’t base their decisions solely on getting every penny they can ... therefore the players don’t care about their families ...


BTW ... whats best for his family ... taking 100k less to plat for us on a one year deal or taking the one year deal with lets say the Ravens or the Redskins at this point? ... according to u its getting the extra 100k to take care of your family ...

Come on Pitt ... u know better than that ...

According to u every player should have a Drew “type” agent if they cared about their family ... ...

IF dude doesn’t have enough cash to take care of his family now ... HE NEVER WILL ... *L* ...

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bal-...0511-story.html

Wide receiver Breshad Perriman has signed a four-year, $8.705 million contract that includes a fifth-year club option, according to an NFL source.

The deal includes a $4.59 million signing bonus and $7.08 million in total guaranteed money for the 26th overall pick from Central Florida.

Perriman is due base salaries of $435,000 in 2015, $830,697 in 2016, $1.226 million in 2017, $1.622 million in 2018 with additional compensation of $1.609 million total.

Dudes made 7 million plus what we paid him last year ... and he’s all of 25 .... yup ... he NEEDS EVERY PENNY HE CAN GET ....

Guess your a money grubbing whore too .... ...

Just curious .... how much had u earned by the time u were 25? .... ...

None of his history matters, thats just how it is sometimes. Players can be gd players bt just not fit either in the system or the culture of the team.

If he is smart he knows this is a place for him to succeed and he will re sign.

God it feels good to be able to say that about the Browns again

But to what ends? I agree with what you are saying, but bottom dollar is not the only thing to consider .

So if I remember right, you were a mason, right? So if youre working for a company that is a good, solid company, where you know you can have a long and successful career and another comnay comes along and offers you $2 an hour more but you know their company may be shaky, and you are not sure how long that will last , do you go for the money ?

Ah, you're moving the goal post now. Every FA going into his second contract is looking for a four year deal, not a one year deal. And there's often times millions in difference. We also both know that the owners have contracts designed to where the ONLY thing you can depend on is the guaranteed money. The rest of the contract isn't worth the paper it's written on. Just watch how loyal that team is if you get a serious injury and aren't a top player. Yeah, they deserve your loyalty, right.



They should. Jut ask all of those players who are retired suffering with head trauma that can't get any of that settlement money what they would do if they had it to do over again. Ask them about "loyalty from ther NFL".

j/c

Higgins & BBC?

#notrealplayers

I’m done here with u after this post ...

Dude was a BUST until this year ... a COMPLETE AND UTTER BUST ... he got cut from the rats ... and their wr corps was possibly the worst in the league ...

Then he came here and had 16 TOTAL CATCHES ...

I highly doubt he’s gonna get any TRUE 4 year deals with more than CHUMP CHANGE in their world guaranteed ...

Each SITUATION is DIFFERENT and in this post your lumping Perriman in with players that actually had at least minimal accomplishments ...

Last words all yours ... u can make yourself look as foolish as u like w/o me pointing it out ...

Enjoy Sashi’s podcast ... its all your hero has ...

Well we all know they're our #1 and #2 WR's. I mean Dorsey didn't have to go out and sign our top WR's. No, wait a minute. He did didn't he?

Well, KJ overpaid for VG’s ... ...

And the year the cults hero drafted Higgins ... was that the 3rd or 4th WR he took in that draft? ... I know he outsmarted the entire NFL by taking 4 WR’s in the worst WR draft in the last two decades ... i just can’t remember how long he waited to draft the actual “onlyrealplayer out of the group ..

Then Mr. #realplayers signed Kenny Britt the following off season ....

And to make it worse .... he drafts all those WR’s and then signs Britt and has ABSOLUTELY NO ONE TO THROW THE BUMS THE BALL .... ...

And some wonder why their hero hasn’t been hired in the two off seasons since his firings ...i hope they enjoy his podcast ....

Drew isn't out to get his player the most money. Drew is out to get Drew the most money and sometimes the player pays the price for it. Drew has made a lot of money over the years so he can afford to take some unnecessary risks with his players careers.

DIAM, calm down and take a deep breath

I want you to relax and name three thingd Sashu did that you did like . Just let the anger go bro

It's not anger, it's comedy.

Dude ... i started a thank u sashi thread a week after he was fired ... he did way more than 3 good things ... way more ...

My issue is with posters like device/Memph and deputy and chs who revise history and say he did way more good things than he did ...

There miffed why he’s not in the nfl ... at least Device is ...

Your not here much ... if u were ... you’d know exactly why i’m doing this ... i stood out of this crap for the longest time ... then they went too far and now i can’t resist taking my shots every single time i can ...

Anger .... naaaa ... not even close ... life’s way to short to get angry over opinions on a football message board ... especially from posters whose football opinions i have ZERO RESPECT FOR ...

Just because i bite back don’t mean i’m angry ...

FACTUAL based comedy ...

I don't buy that.

Agents are hired by the players. Agents work hard to get the best deal for their clients. In the end it is still the players call on when to sign.

That doesn't mean a agent can't give bad advice. Bad advice in the sense of where a players market might be, not bad advice on if a contract actually says what you think it says.

Every year we go through this, how agents are evil people. You have to remember that teams have their agents as well, working to protect the interests of the team.

Before players really used agents, they were paid enough money that they had to sell cars or beer in the off season.

And a large amount of players are flat out stupid. They buy into the sales pitch from the agent because after all... "I only make money when you make money". They tell you that you are the next Jerry Rice and will be the highest paid player in football. Pryor learned that lesson the hard way.The risk was tolerable for Drew because he had far more varied sources of income than Pryor did.

Most players are broke shortly after football because a long term money strategy for the player isn't something most agents care about. Agents sell now because that's what players are buying. Drew is one of the worst and I read a long time ago that at least one NFL team will lower a player on it's draft board if Drew is their agent. Drew doesn't care if he ruins a few players careers if he can get that one big signing to point to and tell players "I can get you that kind of money."

j/c:

I never fault players for trying to get money. Teams will unceremoniously cut them if they aren't performing. However, you have to be smart. Pryor's move really backfired a couple of years ago. Get as much as you can, but be realistic.

As far as Perriman goes...........I have a feeling that he won't be w/us next year. I have no proof or real evidence as to why I think that, but my instincts tell me that he'll be gone. The only caveat to that is if no one else is willing to pay him what he and Drew think he's worth.

I don't think he will be back either. I think Rosen will be in his ear telling him to go elsewhere.

My guess is that Perriman already has a deal on the table and we have top it.

What's missing?

The word "to" or the suffix "ped?"

That's about my take as well. I don't fault the players for trying to get the most they can in the short time that they are marketable. I just wish they were smarter about it. I also view Drew as an agent that is more extreme at putting himself ahead of his players than most are.

I also think Perriman has other suitors that we will be bidding against. I'm not sure we will go too high on our bid.