DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Ex-trainer John Lott

I've don't recall reading anything here about Lott's time with the Browns the last 2 years. I was sort of surprised when he was canned. Then I came to the belief that a trainer's career depends much on luck, basically a rash of injuries will most likely find any trainer fired. What was the general impression of him in Cleveland and any thoughts of the new guy?

Here in Arizona, John Lott came to Tempe and became an instant hit with the fans. The media told how he would not take the Cardinals job until Michael Bidwill agreed to gut the existing training room and installed free weights. The past few months there have been numerous stories of vastly improved player attendance in the Cards voluntary conditioning program and of how players quit going down the street to Lifetime Fitness. However, in Saturday's night game in Oakland the Cards lost 2 starters, right tackle Oliver Ross with torn left triceps and linebacker Chike Okeafor with torn left biceps. So now folks here are looking at him with a much more open mind.

interesting...he is fiery...wonder if he gives his players any secret potions that have also been known to facilitate tears in biceps, triceps, pecs, etc...

Personally, I liked the guy. Not sure about his training methods - because the common fan really isn't too privy to those.

I do remember that madman out in shorts and a t-shirt warming up with the players for the '05 Chargers game though. Nutcase.

I also liked at the combine (on the NFL Network) when he pulled the bluetooth out of Whitner's ear and told him it wasn't the place for it, "Tupac."

I loved the guy, but I seemed to find myself wondering if he was over training guy's since we had alot of injuries the last two years.

Injuries are mostly due to bad luck. If a guy tears something in the weight room then MAYBE you can blame that on the strength coach... outside of that...

I don't think you have to tear something IN the weight room for it to be caused by over working your muscles.

I read somewhere that our new trainer wanted to train the players different in ways mostly related to the position they play.

Like someone said earlier in a way, we aren't really in the know about the way they workout so all I can do is assume.

Lott seems like the old fashioned heavy weights guy. While that may work I just wonder if he takes the time to include alot of the different training methods that are out there in the NFL lately.

Not to get a little off topic but I was watching a show the other day that was called something along the lines of train with LT. LT went through all these workouts and explained exactly what they do and what position they are most affective for and why a certain player should do them. I came away pretty shocked at some of the things LT himself actually does to get ready for the season. He's probably one of the most dedicated people I have ever seen and it shows. And I barely seen him touch all that many free weights.

From the title of this thread, I thought he had already lost his new job w/ the Cardinals.

Don't really know what to say about the guy. He was dedicated and then some and stuck by his techniques. That said, we always still had a ton of injuries.

The guy was a goof ball more interested in piano string tight muscle than guys who could move at a somewhat normal level.

I for one am glad he is snapping other teams players muscles than ours.

JMO

I don't think the strength and conditioning coach affects the team that much. I think we fired Lott because we were losing. The only people I think that need to be fired is the Cleveland Clinic (unless the players could have gotten it at our facility?). KW2 staph, Brian Russell staph (or did he get that in Minnesota?), Bentley staph, Braylon Edwards staph. That just sucked.

You Clevelanders hype up your hospitals. I never really looked into hospitals to know, but this Clinic of yours sucks in my book no matter what you say about it.

I think the best prevention for injuries for players is to watch how much muscle they put on their frame and how flexible they are. Too bulky and not flexible enough will lead to problems. Not really qualified to say that, but it just seems like common sense to me. May be John Lott didn't focus on these areas enough in Savage's mind. Hope this new guy we got works out. Pittsburg Univ. Trainer? No matter what, I don't think it's that important. A lot of players probably have their owns trainers and systems that work for them (i.e. Jamal Lewis). They are professionals after all.

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However, in Saturday's night game in Oakland the Cards lost 2 starters, right tackle Oliver Ross with torn left triceps and linebacker Chike Okeafor with torn left biceps

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Ross Verba tore his bicepts once. I remember that that sucked. LOL. Who'd we start, Enoch DeMar? Chad Beasley? Those were the days of bad O-Line. God I hope Joe Thomas and Eric Steinbach are successful here.

But yeah, I don't really feel that bad for the Cardinals. Injuries have been factors in our terrible seasons, that's for sure

he was an instant fit with fans here... He also gutted our training room like he is doing there... Towards the end of his time here, info was leaked that players were less keen on him and the coaching staff disagreed with him.

He is great to watch at the combine, other than that, he hasn't been anything but average.

That pretty much duplicated what I was going to post.

Lott is a high-energy, high-motivation guy.
We too had our whole gym converted, and they made a big deal about it... and I recall hearing about attendance for workouts being up.


And I remember Gary Baxter popping a pectoral and straining the hell out of a shoulder. I also remember our Severe Injuries decreasing versus the trainer prior to him.

I'm not sure why he wasn't retained here.. maybe some kinda clash or it could have been the continued injury report.. Not sure. Like you say, sometimes it's just the luck, or lack thereof.

I liked watching him during the combine on NFL Network (thanks for taking it away Time Warner ) Firey is a good way to look at him I guess..

Again, not sure why he's gone really...

J/C A LOT (pun) of injuries are the result of poor flexibility.

I remember reading that John Lott was obsessed with the overall strength of the players. He insisted that all the players bulk up as much as possible, and that all players did the same workout. I think it was Cribbs who said that under Lott he gained a lot of muscle mass, but lost some speed and agility. They didn't concentrate on a lot of flexibility, but trained for pure strength only. As if they were all working out to be in a Mr. Universe competition.

When the new guy came in, he stressed specific workouts for specific positions. As well as a lot of cardio and flexibility exercises.