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as much as i hate the yankees, and all that east coast bias crap...
26 world championships is beyond impressive...
It would be impressive if MLB was played on a "level playing field".
I would say rather than what you did:
26 bought championships is beyond impressive.
keep in mind that the yankees have not won a championship since they started over inflating their payroll...
those yankee teams didn't have much of a higher payroll than anyone else when they had guys like scott brosius, paul o'neill, joe girardi, mariano duncan, etc...
those were great teams, and the payroll wasn't 200m
No, not a 200m payroll, but still significantly higher than other teams.
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as much as i hate the yankees, and all that east coast bias crap...
26 world championships is beyond impressive...
It would be impressive if MLB was played on a "level playing field".
I would say rather than what you did:
26 bought championships is beyond impressive.
keep in mind that the yankees have not won a championship since they started over inflating their payroll...
those yankee teams didn't have much of a higher payroll than anyone else when they had guys like scott brosius, paul o'neill, joe girardi, mariano duncan, etc...
those were great teams, and the payroll wasn't 200m
No, not a 200m payroll, but still significantly higher than other teams.
you should double check that.
most of the championships prior to the 2000 championship, the yankees were not significantly higher than the rest, seperated only by a few million, there have even been a few instances where they didn't have the highest payroll (see 1998, 1977)
besides, the last six years of yankee baseball have proven that high payroll doesn't exactly equal championship...
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there have even been a few instances where they didn't have the highest payroll (see 1998, 1977)
 ok, so twice they didn't have the highest payroll.
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I'll go with
(1) MLB career HR's
(2) NFL career rushing yards
(3) NFL career times picking Terry Bradshaw up after a play and depositing him on his head
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Actually...
How about Richard Petty's 250+ wins (279 i think?) Jeff Gordon is around the most dominant racer in NASCAR and he doesnt even have 100 yet.
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I'm not sure what the question is asking. Is it which will be the hardest to break or which draws the most attention? Either way, it revolves around baseball because it is the most statistically driven sport. The hardest to break would probably be Cy Young's win record, Joe Oeschger and Leon Cadore throwing 26 innings in the same game, Cy Young's 7,300+ career innings pitched, Cy Young's 749 career complete games, Will White's 75 complete games in a season, or Ty Cobb's .367 career BA.
As for which ones draw the most attention, I'd look at Dimaggio's hitting streak. Every year there is a player that gets to 30 or so games and at that point, ESPN starts breaking into coverage to show ABs, and people start paying attention. If a player ever gets to a 50-game streak, people will be watching as many of that players ABs as possible.
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Totally overrated records:
2. 56 Consecutive games with a hit - Joe DiMaggio
What? totally overrated? I fail to see how thats overrated. That record is unlikely to be touched in our lifetimes if ever. One could argue that you MAY be right on Ripken.. some will argue that all he did was show up to work. Personally, I think thats a weak argument but I'm not going to go to the wall for it. 56 games is another story altogether.
Saint, the way I see it......the 56-game streak means nothing in the big picture. It didn't win the game, the division, a batting title or the big hit in the World Series. A player could hit in 50 or 100 straight games by going 1 for 4 every game....and be hitting .250. That's really not that impressive to me (and I know Joe hit better than .250 during the streak). In a way, I would think someone hitting .400 now would be tougher than hitting 56 games in a row (57 to break for that matter).
To me, the DiMaggio and Ripken streak mean the same thing. They're both really, really, really, really impressive feats but not something I'd tell my kids about. Hideki Matsui played in 1,768 game in a row (Japan and MLB). If he hadn't broken his wrist last season, he'd be around 1990 consecutive games played today. Hideki would have only been 3.77 seasons away from tying Ripkens record from today on. And people say Ripken's record is unbreakable? It's about luck, not skill. And to me, a record that's based on luck, doesn't belong on the all-time list.*
A record should be something that an opponent tried to stop and they couldn't (while trying their hardest). For example, if a team wanted to stop Dimaggio's streak, they would have just pitched around him. It's not a great record if it would have been that easy to stop. For example, the pitchers stopped Barry Bonds from hitting 70+ homers the year after he hit 73. They walked him 220 times and Bonds could only hit 46 homers. That's a record that can be stopped if the opposing teams want to. A 20 strikeout game by a pitcher can or can't be stopped....but ONLY based on the hitter.
*and I'd still like to say again, it's really, really, really, really impressive that Ripken played 2,600+ games.
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logdawg....
i guess im just asking...whats the most prestigious and impressive
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Cy Youngs 511 wins.
As far as which record is least likely to ever be broken... this is the one. It would take somebody having a 20 win season, 25 years in a row... and then some.
In general I would have to say that any offensive record is more likely to fall than the great defensive records because as you say, most sports are making rules to benefit the offense...
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I'm actually an Indian's fan, but this is a record that will NEVER be broken.
IMO of course. 
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thats very possible...because look at Biggio, he's been around forever and just got to 3000.
Arod isnt close.
The only person in the modern era who could even come close to this i think is Ichiro. but with the record at 250ish a season...he'd have to play for a while, and do well
say he gets 175 a season...thats over 25 years i think...if im not stupid
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Saint, the way I see it......the 56-game streak means nothing in the big picture. It didn't win the game, the division, a batting title or the big hit in the World Series.
You could say that about a LOT of records.
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A player could hit in 50 or 100 straight games by going 1 for 4 every game....and be hitting .250. That's really not that impressive to me (and I know Joe hit better than .250 during the streak).
That's a poor way to look at it. You could get 500 wins with an ERA of 8.00 as well. The thing about this record isn't that you can go 1 for 4 and still get it ... it's that you have to go AT LEAST 1-for-4 EVERY DAY for 56 games in a row. If you go 1 for 4 against some crummy pitcher one day, you have to turn around and do it again against guys like Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson the next. It's not that the individual aspect of the record isn't that difficult (even though going 1 for 3 in itself is considered good) ... it's that you have to do it over 50 times in a row ... just one off day, and your record is toast.
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In a way, I would think someone hitting .400 now would be tougher than hitting 56 games in a row (57 to break for that matter).
Barry Bonds hit .380 in 2001 ... several guys have made it into April hitting .400 or near it just in the last decade. More than a handful of guys have hit .400 in their career. Only one person has hit over 50 consecutive games in a row in their career (and even he only did it once) ... and nobody else has come close.
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A 20 strikeout game by a pitcher can or can't be stopped....but ONLY based on the hitter.
The batters could just sit there and start bunting after 15 strikeouts.
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No one's hit .400 since Ted Williams in 1941 (coincidentally, the same year DiMaggio hit in 56 straight). The .400 mark has rarely been challenged since (George Brett's .390 in 1980 probably the closest).
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Only one person has hit over 50 consecutive games in a row in their career (and even he only did it once) ... and nobody else has come close.
True. Rose and Wille Keeler are 2nd, tied at 44 straight. Like I said earlier, even a 30-game streak is rare in baseball and only happens every few seasons.
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I wouldn't say 56 straight games is overrated, it has stood a long time.
But it is a record open to anybody with a bat for now and evermore. It can be broken in one season. But it hasn't.
While it may never be broken, it has been challenged to a degree over the past 40 years, so in my mind it can be broken.
Only one other pitcher won 400 or more....Walter Johnson with 417, and he retired in 1927.
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The .400 mark has rarely been challenged since (George Brett's .390 in 1980 probably the closest).
Tony Gwynn hit .394 in 1994.
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several guys have made it into April hitting .400 or near it just in the last decade.
Anybody who has ever gone 2 for 5 in their first game has been hitting .400 in April.... 
Consecutive game hit streaks, number of hits, .400 averages, these records are being challenged less and less.... it's the homerun records that are falling.. why? Because everybody wants to hit for power these days. Used to be if you had 2 or 3 20-home run guys on your team, you were doing well, now if you don't have 7 with over 20 and a couple of those over 30 or 40, you can't compete.
Nobody wants to hit for average any more....
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The long ball has also taken base stealing out of the game, or at least lessened it's value. DC, I remember when a 40-homer season was a GREAT year and it wasn't all that long ago. Now, when someone hits 40 no one bats an eyelash.
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Heck yea, I don't know what the record for Sac bunts is in a season but there is a safe bet that record won't be challenged again... The days when they actually used to PLAY BASEBALL... as in steal, bunt, hit and run, go the other way to advance the runner, etc... well those days are pretty much gone... Get a guy on and wait for a homerun, that's the new "strategy" in baseball.... 
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Yep, it sucks, but I guess chicks and guys dig the long ball now cuz it's just like video games !!
Bunting is so easy if they practice it, it's an art form too.
It's one of the reasons I don't follow baseball nearly as much as I used to - baseball has become so one-dimensional.
I remember when the Expos (Rodney Scott, Tim Raines, Andre Dawson) and Cardinals (Lonnie & Ozzie Smith) used to have track meets on the base paths.
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Was just wondering.....the Bills made it to 4 straight super bowl's, do you think any team will ever do it again?
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Has anyone mentioned Cy Young's 511 career wins?!  That's untouchable!
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No, it hasn't been talked about.  Read what other people have to say once in awhile, dude.
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Remember the gold old days when you got two strikes and you used to choke up a little and try to make contact and get on base to keep an inning alive?
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Or how about great defensive middle infielders who hit .230, but no one cared because they could play defence?
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How come no one has brought up the late great Wilt Chamberlain's record of sleeping with more than 1,000 women over his NBA career?
Funny how coming from an NBA star it is gross but not disgusting...........
I wonder what we'd say if it was a WNBA basketball player who set the record for sleeping with over 1,000 men in her career.
Wonder how long before someone says that WNBA players only sleep with other women???
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Like Ozzie Smith who, for the first 7 years of his career couldn't hit over .250 and hit less than 2 home runs a year? Think he could make it out of Double A these days?
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He's only IMO the best defensive shortstop who ever lived, but that wouldn't be enough these days.  The under-20 fans would be tearing him a new one on message boards. " but, but, but... the guy has no power!!!
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Ralphie....it was 20,000+ link "He was a lifelong bachelor, but became notorious for his claim to have had sex with 20,000 women, a statement which has entered popular culture." 
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Also, Wilt wasn't the only guy, or girl, to score 100 in a basketball game:
College
Frank Selvy is the only person to score 100 points in an NCAA Division I game, when he scored exactly 100 for Furman against Newberry College in a 149-95 rout on February 13th, 1954. (41-66 FG, 18-22 FT)
Clarence "Bevo" Francis has the NCAA all-division record of 113 points, for Rio Grande College (now the University of Rio Grande) against Hillsdale College, exactly 11 days before Selvy's mark. Francis also holds the NAIA mark of 116 points for Rio against Ashland College on January 19th, 1963, but this is not recognized by the NCAA because it did not come against a four-year institution.
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According to the National High School Sports Record Book, 15 boys have scored 100 points in US high school basketball games. (Other sources list up to 18.) The most notable player ever to do so is current NBA player Dajuan Wagner, who scored exactly 100 for Camden High (NJ) in a 157-67 victory over Gloucester Township Technical School on January 16th, 2001.
Four girls have also scored 100 points in a high school game: Epiphanny Prince of New York (113), Cheryl Miller (105), Lisa Leslie (101) and Linda Page (100).
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In the 1923 Far Eastern Games, Luis “Lou” Salvador scored the Philippines’ achieved the all-time record for the most points scored by a player in a single game in international competition. He scored 116 points to lead the Philippines beat China and recaptured the gold medal.
Dražen Petrovic, then playing for Cibona Zagreb, scored 112 points (shooting 40 for 60 from the floor) against SMELT Olimpija during a Yugoslavian League Game on October 10th, 1985
Zdenko Babic scored 144 points in a 1985 Korac; Cup game against Apoel (Cyprus).
Former UConn star Denham Brown scored a Canadian high school record 111 points for West Hill Collegiate Institute against R.H. King in Toronto, Ontario on February 7th, 2002.
Most recently, a 13-year-old Croatian player named Marin Ferencevic; scored 178 points in a game for the under-14 team KK Virovitica. He had previously scored 101 points in a single game.
Brazilian female superstar, Hortencia Marcari, scored 121 points on a professional game in 1990, the most ever for female professional players.
Retired Latvian basketball player, Aigars Zeidaks, scored 100 points against "Valmiera" on a professional game in Latvian Basketball League - LBL. He did it in 34 minutes while shooting 45 of 56 from the floor and 9 of 14 from the free throw line. It happened at 1995, 4.february, between "SWH/Broceni" and "Valmiera".
New Zealand International Phill Jones scored 105 points in a game at club level in 1998.
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The most notable player ever to do so is current NBA player Dajuan Wagner, who scored exactly 100 for Camden High (NJ) in a 157-67 victory over Gloucester Township Technical School on January 16th, 2001.
Great job of coaching... 
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Yes....on 2 separate occasions.
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I have to go with Ted Williams hitting .400.
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Most recently, a 13-year-old Croatian player named Marin Ferencevic; scored 178 points in a game for the under-14 team KK Virovitica. He had previously scored 101 points in a single game.
That's crazy.
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Gretzky's Career Points: 2856 (1,485 games, 894 goals, 1,962 assists) Mark Messier is second, netting 1,855 points in 1,756 games. Amazing Record Cy Young: 511 Wins. The game was different then it is today, and he also hold the record for the most losses... He was around for a long time, this record will never be broken. Pete Rose with 4,256 hits... Well, I'm glad I got a ball signed by him at Spring Training. Even if he never makes it into the Hall (please don't quote this and hijack the topic  ) Even Ripkens record, the only one close to him was Miquel Tejada, the closest active player, who played in 1,152 games. He seemed like he was around forever, and he wasn't even half way there! I wish he hadn't got injured, but even so, he'd be playing into his mid-40s to have any hope of catching 2632.
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That's not even a record.
The record is .440 by Hugh Duffy.
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Well I have to say the Undefeated season of Miami is one that will be tough to break, not impossible, but damn hard.
The one I've not seen is Nolan Ryan's 8 career No Hitter's, or something like that.
Agreed about Rose's hits, Cy Young's strike outs, Ripken's games played, Gretzkey's goals, and Duffy 440 avg. Very tough to beat any of these records.
Even with Bonds breaking Arron's HR record, that's still a tough one too. However, there are a few younger guys that could have a chance to break it down the road. I hope they do.
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The one I've not seen is Nolan Ryan's 8 career No Hitter's, or something like that.
It was mentioned in the first post and I also brought it up, 7 career no hitters is downright nasty.
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