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How hard is it to get a car? Waiting period? Background checks?

And yet, just hours later after this post, someone in Canada runs down many in a rented van. . . . .

How hard was it to get said car? Wasn't that regulated? That has to be impossible because of those laws and restrictions. I mean surely, those laws and restrictions prevent evil from happening. Its not like people have free will of their own or anything and CHOSE to do horrible things no matter what. . . .

I agree with all of what you said. I would only add that the boy was out of school on a school sanctioned and promoted event. The school failed the child, the parents, and the community. I think the gist of the story really is that why did a school allow an 11 year old to be out where this could be happen while in their custody?

If I was the parent, I'd probably think exactly the same way. I'd blame the school for sure. But as an outsider, and having been a kid who skipped class, albeit not at 11 years old, I'm not sure it's the schools fault.

Did they sanction the walkout? Or was it a true protest where the kids didn't ask permission to walkout?

Even if the school did sanction the walkout, were there adults present to watch the kids still?

Regardless, this kid didn't go to the walkout. He skipped school, skipped the walkout, and went rogue.

If I had gotten into an accident the times I skipped school in high school, I can't blame the school for that. I was pretty sneaky at cutting class. Although, things were simpler then with less security surrounding the schools.

But I don't know. If I was the parent, I'd be blaming the school too.

Let me know when someone uses a van to run over kids in a school, or people while they're at a movie theater.

You guys comparing cars to guns isn't worth my time any longer. Cars are a necessity. Guns are not.

You need a license to drive one, which you have to take a written and physical test for. You have to pass an eye and hearing exam. You can't have any severe medical issues like history of seizures or strokes.

So yeah, it's harder to get your license to drive a car than it is to buy and shoot a gun.

I suppose I should've specified get a license to drive, rather than buy a car. I gave you too much credit in comprehension.

You obviously have never read a history book, or understand that to form a more perfect union, we use our bill of rights to uphold one another. I suppose the 1st amendment isn't a necessity either in your eyes.

I have no doubt that you are a good person - don't get me going at you wrong. but I truly believe your political views on the 2A are not only flat out wrong, I believe they are a true danger to our society and American way of life and liberty.

Oh I've read plenty of history books. I'm a big fan of history. History is one of the greatest teachers there is. I've read a lot of European history books too. Feel free to question me on anything history related.

Yes, the right to bear arms was a necessity back in the days the Constitution was written. So was the right to form a militia. But those two are pretty outdated these days.

We're more civilized now and we no longer have the need to challenge people to a duel. And good luck forming that militia with you and your minute men buddies.

It's time for our Constitution to be updated and brought into the 21st century. It's time for you to do the same.

so the 1st amendment is outdated, it was written at the same time, no?

We didn't have twitter when it was written - no need for since freedom of speech has caused many deaths in America. Who needs that?

Also that right to vote thing, we are in the 21st century remember? No need for that - the most likes of FB should determine the POTUS, House, and Senate, huh?

Oh, and god forbid we need that pesky search and seizure one too! We trust everyone in our perfect society you live in - so no need for warrants and such.

I think your on to something

Yeah I've had a similar conversation with someone recently about the heated exchanges about politics. We'd probably all get along just fine if we only talked about the Browns.

For the record, I'm sure you're a good dude, but we disagree on everything political. I believe that your views on the "2A" are flat out wrong and outdated, and your views on guns in general is wrong. And not just you, all pro-gun people. I think that guns, but mostly our crippling debt, are the true danger to our society. I won't say to the American way of life... because what is that exactly? What is our way of life that is different from other countries? Why do you think American gets its own way of life and that's somehow better than all others?

The American way of life where we don't help others in our own country? Where we let Veterans go untreated for mental health disorders? Where we don't treat mental health as a disease? Where we bankrupt people for healthcare? We we bankrupt people for college? Where welfare is a four-letter word? Where immigrants can no longer come for shelter?

Is that what you mean by the American way of life?

I never said anything about those other amendments. I specified two, the right to bear arms and the right to form a militia. I said those are outdated.

These things happen man. Some things change with time, and others don't.

For instance, my business has a contract with a datacenter, and when that contract was signed, it included a 1Mb internet connection there at the datacenter, and also specified a 2-hour SLA for technical assistance. Now times have changed and internet is a heck of a lot faster, so we've updated the contract to include a 100Mb fiber internet connection, but I still get the same 2-hr SLA.

See how easy that is when things get outdated? You update them. But you keep the parts that are working just great!

Pretty easy eh?

You sure seem to hate this country. Well, thankfully for the AMERICAN WAY of LIFE you have the CHOICE to leave anytime if you wish. CHOICE and LIBERTY is the American way. Try to leave Russia if you are born citizen, or NK. See what happens.

Wow, in a online world where you can easily see gofundme pages changing peoples lives daily, churches (even tho im not religious) do wonders for people with generosity, neighbors who will help you anytime you ask, family that will do anything for you. Stories of seeing a man walk miles to work everyday - for his co-workers to ban together to buy him a vehicle. I am sorry you have such a negative view on the USA and its inhabitants. I am truly sorry you live life so negative, and chose not to see all the good in the world, and amazing stories of people living, working, and help eachother daily. In my life, I have seen and experienced some of the most kind hearted acts possible. All you need to do is turn of MSNBC and open your eyes a bit. The generosity is there, you chose to ignore it.

Our veterans past treatment is a joke - good thing President Trump has made this a key to his agenda and passed bills already trying to fix this. However, I remember learning in those history books, of when people of your political viewpoints would spit on soldiers, throw red paint on them and call them baby killers. Sad times they were. But thanks to POTUS, the VA is now under scrutiny that it was never before.

ummm, that is just false. please provide a link that says bi polar disorder, or depression is not considered a mental illness that is treated as such. or countless other mental illness'.

I wonder, if we loosened some restrictions from the FDA, made it cheaper to become a doctor, had tort reform from liberal lawyers, had less liberal judges giving credence to insane lawsuits - if the cost of healthcare would go down at all?


Don't even get me started on this topic, because if it wasn't for increased financial aid that studentsshould not receive (which in turn inflates the cost of tuition) the fairy tales that every little kid is special and HAS to get a degree. I wonder, which political idealogy has called for increase in finaid year over year over year? which political idealogy has called for the government to back student loans to the schools and has called for those loans to not be deemed able to declare in bankruptcy?

not sure what you mean here......

please tell me, what country takes in more immigrants than all nations? what country takes in more refugees than other nations? another flat out falsehood, or just a plain lie - but ill give you benefit of the doubt that you are just misinformed.

well, when you or the government can guarantee the safety of my family from all harm, we can update the constitution and the 2a then, deal?

until then, its not really outdated.

You're funny. So everything you stated there in response to my statements was exactly the same thing over and over again. I state my side, you state your side, and the ride goes round and round.

We both think the other is misinformed, and I'm not going to change your mind.

I'm just so tired of your America RA RA cheerleader BS. "If you don't like it, go live somewhere else" crap! And then you throw out examples of Russia and North Korea. Like they're relevant examples.

And then to compare me to people who spit on soldiers during Vietnam. Nope! I don't care how much my beliefs might seem off to you, but I always respect our military. They do a job I would not be able to do. And they do it no matter who is President. Do not ever assume I would disrespect the people who make up our military.

I can be against the war, but not against the soldiers.

We're done on this one.

They why are there so many driving without a license tickets given out every year?

I give you no credit in comprehension.



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Then this.....

So if a fat guy wants a donut and crosses the street to get to the Krispy Kreme and gets hit by a car.. he got hit by a car because he's fat.

He actually went the opposite way of the protest, to a park to meet up with his friends.

not really a good analogy - although this fat guy loves a good donut.

he would have got hit because he went to that particular donut shop. if he chose to go to dunkin, he would not have been in that spot at that time, at that moment. its the butterfly effect.

what I am saying is that every single choice he made that day, lead to his death. I am saying that yes, choosing to go the protest is a reason he is dead. But I am also saying that choosing to leave the very second he left, is reason. If he wold have left 5 seconds later, he would be alive - the truck would have already passed that spot in the road....

LEAVE ME OUT OF THIS geez