DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2018 NFL Season 2018 NFL Draft Bradley Chubb (whats not to love)

Overview

Football runs in the blood of the Chubb family. Bradley's father, Aaron, was a star linebacker at Georgia. His brother, Brandon, was a very good linebacker at Wake Forest. And yes, he is related (cousin) to Georgia's senior running back, Nick Chubb. Bradley is the most talented of them all, showing off his wares during a first-team All-American and first-team All-ACC senior season where he won the 2017 Hendricks (best defensive end) and Bronko Nagurski (best defender) Awards. He finished second in the FBS with 26 tackles for loss and lit up quarterbacks 10 times, breaking up two passes, in addition to forcing three fumbles. He had a second-team All-ACC (coaches) and team Defensive MVP junior season (22 tackles for loss ranked in the top four nationally, 9.5 sacks, three forced fumbles). Chubb used his NFL size, violent hands, and relentless pressure to rack up those TFL playing on either side of the line, with only former No. 1 overall pick Mario Williams collecting more in a season for State (Chubb wore Williams' No. 9 jersey in 2016 and 2017). He showed flashes as a sophomore, with 12 tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks, and three forced fumbles after contributing as a true freshman (four tackles in 11 games).

Analysis

Strengths Looks the part. Long-limbed with broad chest, built shoulders and thick legs. Good combination of size and athleticism. Sets and holds the edge with wide base. Major disruptor who can get into gaps and drive up the field to take it off schedule. Fights back against wash down blocks. Relentless and rabid in approach. Plays on bouncy feet. Range to constrict backside lanes and chase play side. Doesn't quit on plays and makes tackles downfield. Runs feet through contact and is a frame-on-frame tackler. Actively searches to strip the ball. Has experience standing. Able to drop, open hips and roam in coverage. Good body control. Faced quality tackle competition. Mature rush approach. Has improved at his craft. Stab move can ruin a tackle's pass set. Hands are quick, talented and violent. Able to pummel the punch and dull the edge. Runs the rush arc with acceleration around the corner. Absolute terror on twists. Grinds through inside edge of a tackle.

Weaknesses:

Needs to time up hand swipes and initial hand usage earlier. Athletic tackles set into him before he gets rush momentum going. Not a natural hip-flipper. Plays top-heavy at times. Needs to play under control. Better knee bend would improve conversion of speed to power. Gets overly involved with initial contact and will lose sight of ball carriers. Needs to improve feel for down blocks and attack them earlier. Gets behind in the rep against reach blocks. Balance though contact is inconsistent due to pad level. Can improve shed timing at point of attack.

Draft Projection Round 1
NFL Comparison Chris Long

Bottom Line Chubb possesses high-end physical traits, years of production and the ability to play in a variety of positions in both odd and even fronts. Chubb returned to school last year and turned areas of improvement into areas of strength. His motor and athletic ability cause him to jump off the tape snap after snap and his play attributes and production should translate quickly as a pro. Chubb should be an early pick, early starter and multi-time Pro Bowler.
-Lance Zierlein

LINK: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/bradley-chubb?id=2560043

Youtube vs Florida state

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For me I can't see how this kid can't be the pick, couple him with Garret you have the best pass rush in the NFL.

For me I can't wait to see Ben, Joe and Andy get pounded by these 2 guys, wow kid is super explosive and plays with a motor that doesn't stop.

I take him right now. He plays with attitude after the Florida State game it sure looks like he heads for the team logo painted on the field and spits on it, imagine a beast playing for the Browns with an attitude? Just what the Dr. ordered if you asked me he is a tone setter and we need that

The guy certainly is terrific. I prefer Barkley just because i want to get this offense rolling, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with Chubb.

The one thing I wonder is how the D-Line rotation will work. Ogbah seems to definitely be a LDE. Can these guys just switch over and play LDE if needed? Is there much of a change in technique having to switch to other sides?

Or are we better off having Chubb play LDE and rotating with Ogbah and having this Smith guy rotate with Garrett?

A pass rush with Garrett Chubb and Ogbah can help a poor secondary, and our secondary looks much improved already, with the draft yet to come ...

There is something not to love, it has nothing to do with the player.

A Chubb pick would mean the Browns have used yed another top pick on the defensive side of the ball, and the front 7, in a time where not only is it the strength of the team, but injuries last year showed it's the deepest part of the team too.

Couple that with the Jaguars in the playoffs, along with other times in recent history showing that the way to beat the Steelers is not to blitz them but get pressure without a blitz.

So using a top pick on another blitzer, from the traditional blitzer spot, DE, LB, would just be adding blue to black.

Chubb would be either swallowed up in the mix of the decent guys already on the Browns, or would kick one of the decent guys already on the Browns off the team.

And it would be the opportunity cost of using the pick on a different position.

As for not liking the player,
I don't like his cousin the RB, as he looked basic and not game changing,
this guy? I don't know.

Rubbish Chubb is the ONLY selection unless we trade the first pick. (or he is taken @2).
Garrett amd Ogbah played but six of sixteen games together, without adequate backups to fill the void.

Barkley would not even be on my board in the first round.

Your post is confusing. Wouldn't picking Chubb be a great choice then? If your D-line can get to the QB without having to blitz then you can drop more people into coverage.

Trade up in the first if you want a RB (Guice), otherwise, take one in the 2nd. I want Chubb at 4 (or 5, assuming Denver comes up to get a QB).

I love Barkely, I know we are not taking him with Hyde in the mix and w/ Dorsey's track record of when he drafts RB. I am perfectly ok w. Chubb though. He is a special player as well.

Take Chubb... take Fitz... take Barkley...

Honestly, I'm just ecstatic that we have the draft capital we do in a draft that's as stacked as this one. As long as we don't do anything stupid (like trade out of the top-10 or take a rando nobody had on their radar), then I'm pumped as a Browns fan.

Yea your right, we are sitting in the preverbal Cat Bird seat ...

We are sitting pretty at this point. I wasn't a big Sashi Brown fan but the man deserves credit for this.

That's true. He orchestrated this haul. But at the same time, I'm just as happy that he's not the one that's going to be making the picks. I'm not going out and purchasing my superbowl tickets or anything, but I have much more confidence in Dorsey making these decisions than Sashi.

I would thank Deshaun Watson's ACL too.

Maybe it's Haslam that deserves a little credit. He hired a team to tear it down to the studs and budget for a major renovation... And now has some of the best carpenters in the game to rebuild the castle.

if sashi did his job we would be sitting at pick 20+, but hey, yea lets give him credit for us blowing.

I found this statement by you a bit queer sense that is exactly what Chubb and Garret would allow us to do as well, not to mention the rotational value.

I concur with Fla this is the pick and he is a stud.

I don’t see Chubb starting over Ogbah either, at least not this year, but a rotation of those three guys plus brining Chubb in on obvious passing downs with either Ogbah or Garrett moving inside could be something.

Also Ogbah will be a FA after two seasons if we don't resign him. Chubb would give us two starting DEs' under contract for the next four years.

Ogbah and Garrett where only on the field together for 6 out of 16 games last season, so I have to disagree with you here.

As far as Barkley, there is no denying his potential talent, but he has a lot to learn about the position and although he did improve somewhat at pass protection last season. He is nowhere near ready to assume that role for his team. Besides we already have a great talent in Duke Johnson as our third down RB, one that I am hopeful to extend his contract.

I just can not condone spending a top 5 selection on a two down RB.

You do realize Barkely is prototypical every down back right?

He looks like one but he does not run like one ... he CUTS EVERYTHING OUTSIDE RIGHT AWAY ...

He is a better athelete than Zeke .... but right now he is not even close to being as good a rb ...

I agree that he has the potential to be, but the more tape I see on him, the less I am convinced that he understands the nuances of the position. That trumps his potential, when in context of a top 5 selection.

Also he is a strong runner, but not a power runner...big difference between the two.

You still can not ignore the fact that for 10 games, only one of the two where available.

I don't doubt for a moment that Barkley would make the O better, how much better is the question.

I stick to the theory of QB, LT, Elite pass rusher, and CB. Notice the absence of RB.

For me its just that simple. Chubb is said to be better than Garret Tab, thats pretty special in my book and at a much higher valued position then RB.

I enjoy the 2 and fro but I have to believe that Chubb is the pick that Dorsey will make.

Oh and please excuse me but I have Trent battered fan syndrome after the last RB we picked in the top 5.

Want to know the funny part about Trent I was the one who pointed out how horrible I thought he was, within 2 weeks he was gone. I learned my lesson though never again for a RB they are easy to get and don't last long when you do get one.

Its a passing league I love watching guys rip off big gains but its still a passing league add a RB in the 2nd and forget about Barkley someone else can have him if he runs for 1500 and the one we draft runs for 1100 and the guy we take in his place pressures the QB and registers double digit sacks, while making the back end better and making the Garret pick look better I do it and never blink. Chubb is a helluva DE and makes the defense studly for the next 10 years.

Your not thinking value IMO.

Oh and I wouldn't cry if Barkley were the pick but honestly no way.

Well I see a player who does not understand the blocking concepts of a pretty basic offence. He got by on his talent mostly, not by executing the play. That does not transition so well at the next level.

I guess we will just have to disagree on his pass protection tab.