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I'm not looking for a debate over whether or not the Haslams should swing the axe yet again. Let's just pretend the front office DID just get the boot.

The article is from December. There's quite a bit there outside of just the list, which I have pasted below.

I didn't look to see if any of these guys got hired elsewhere. Figured we could talk about people other than Peyton Manning.

The General Manager Short List for 2017

By Albert Breer December 15, 2016

READY TO ROLL

Chiefs VP of player personnel Chris Ballard: Kansas City’s continued success only enhanced the candidacy of an exec who’s been on the cusp for some time. Bonus to hiring him: Widely held belief he’d swiftly assemble a robust scouting staff.

Patriots VP of player personnel Nick Caserio: He interviewed in Miami a few years back, and there was a feeling then that he was ready to take his shot. He hasn’t interviewed elsewhere since, leading to a growing sense that it’d be tough to pry him away.

Ravens assistant GM Eric DeCosta: Good luck pursuing him. He’s almost certainly going nowhere. If anything were to lure him, my sense is it would have to be full control and either a major market or an historic franchise.

Seahawks co-director of player personnel Scott Fitterer: The former college director was promoted last year. And while he’s still on the road plenty, the change has given him experience in pro scouting and an office setting. His résumé = Seattle’s roster.

Texans director of player personnel Brian Gaine: In many ways, Gaine has been the bridge between scouting and coaching, with his background speaking Bill O’Brien’s language. And the Texans’ resiliency this year speaks to the depth he’s helped build.

Packers director of player personnel Brian Gutekunst: As the team’s former college director, he’s vital in how Ted Thompson builds the roster. And while Eliot Wolf is a bigger name, I’ve heard too many good things about Gutekunst to leave him off.

Seahawks co-director of player personnel Trent Kirchner: He was promoted from pro director when Fitterer was, and has since gotten more experience on the college side. He’s interviewed with the Jets and Lions the last two years.

Cowboys assistant director of player personnel Will McClay: The Cowboys’ offensive talent speaks for itself, but Dallas has been equally resourceful in stocking the defense. And in that regard, the team’s top scout has been a difference-maker.

Cardinals VP of player personnel Terry McDonough: Part of the Ozzie Newsome tree, McDonough helped Steve Keim pull off a difficult rebuild-on-the-fly the past four years. The success of Tampa’s Jason Licht coming from Arizona won’t hurt either.

Vikings assistant GM George Paton: Like Ballard, he’s been in the mix for a number of jobs—he was one of two finalists for the Rams post in 2012—and has helped build a proven winner. Minnesota’s rash of injuries has only highlighted that.

Falcons assistant GM Scott Pioli: By all accounts, he’s learned from his experience in Kansas City, and he left the cupboard far from bare. His impact in Atlanta can be seen in the recent influx of talent on defense and along the offensive line.

Bengals director of player personnel Duke Tobin: Most road scouts have an enormous amount of respect for the stoic Tobin, who has strong football roots, plus a deep, sturdy roster to show for his nearly two decades in Cincinnati.

Packers director of football operations Eliot Wolf: Once Seattle’s John Schneider signed his extension, the assumption became that Wolf would succeed Thompson in Green Bay, maybe very soon. The rumor mill has also tied him to the Niners.

ON DECK

Brandon Beane, Carolina; Joey Clinkscales, Oakland; Joe Douglas, Philadelphia; Brian Heimerdinger, NY Jets; Chris Grier, Miami; Alonzo Highsmith, Green Bay; Brandon Hunt, Pittsburgh; Joe Hortiz, Baltimore; Jeff Ireland, New Orleans; Dan Morgan, Seattle; Kyle O’Brien, Detroit; Monti Ossenfort, New England; Chris Polian, Jacksonville; Jimmy Raye, Indianapolis; Matt Russell, Denver; John Spytek, Tampa Bay; Jamaal Stephenson, Minnesota.

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John Dorsey is the obvious name that needs to be mentioned.

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Ahhh, yes, I forgot they let him go. They were wanting to interview a former player turned ESPN analyst whose name is escaping me.

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Chris Ballard is the GM of the Colts.

I'd look at Wolf, Pioli, or Paton.

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Why? Is that an inside joke?

And now that I have some more spare time, I have read that Scott Fitterer was a candidate for GM w/ the Chifs, Brian Gaine is now w/ the Bills, Trent Kirchner interviewed w/ the Falcons in January, and George Paton has been talked about as a GM candidate for the 49ers and Chiefs.

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Originally Posted By: Brownoholic
Why? Is that an inside joke?

And now that I have some more spare time, I have read that Scott Fitterer was a candidate for GM w/ the Chifs, Brian Gaine is now w/ the Bills, Trent Kirchner interviewed w/ the Falcons in January, and George Paton has been talked about as a GM candidate for the 49ers and Chiefs.


Just saying we need a miracle in a way. Meant no offense.

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GM! I assumed you didn't want the job. Otherwise, we wouldn't be in this mess, right??

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Damn skippy I would work 80 hours a week 50 weeks a year and hire people way smarter than myself, then let them do their jobs. That's what good managers do.


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Damn skippy I would work 80 hours a week 50 weeks a year and hire people way smarter than myself, then let them do their jobs. That's what good managers do.


I would just come to Dawgtalkers and pick the ones with the most hype. Work 20 hours a week.

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I think that's already been done wink


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The list should begin and end with John Dorsey


you had a good run Hank.
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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
Damn skippy I would work 80 hours a week 50 weeks a year and hire people way smarter than myself, then let them do their jobs. That's what good managers do.


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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
Just saying we need a miracle in a way. Meant no offense.


Oh, no offense. That's funny.

I thought maybe there was something about the Haslams' preferences I wasn't aware of.

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I know you said that you said that you didn't want a debate and wanted to pretend we needed a new FO, but I think we shouldn't fire anyone.

I think staying the course is the best move.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
John Dorsey is the obvious name that needs to be mentioned.


Definitely should be mentioned, however is he GM material? I honestly don't know the answer, but he has credibility.

The John Dorsey Dismissal: Where It Went Wrong in K.C.

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dorsey is a strong candidate


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Blowing this up now would be stupid.

Who the hell didn't know that we would suck for a couple of years after gutting the roster?

No more freaking firings!

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
No more freaking firings!


(Except for Sashi Brown, the person in charge of the whole thing, that guy can get out.)

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Worked for Farmer! Can't be tough to match this output. I am for adding better talent folks, an OC, and a GM.


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No firings...

But I would not mind adding or tweaking our FO. I would love it if a GM would allow Sashi to take a 1-2 steps back from our draft. The FO would be a little "heavy", so maybe a hungry younger guy who knows how to evaluate college players for the pro game. Let him learn the rest on the job.

No firings, but a strategic hire might be the final piece.


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