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1. Cleveland Browns

2. San Francisco 49ers

3. Chicago Bears

4. Jacksonville Jaguars

5. Tennessee Titans

6. New York Jets

7. San Diego Chargers

8. Carolina Panthers

9. Cincinnati Bengals

10. Buffalo Bills

11. New Orleans Saint

12. Cleveland Browns

if Trubisky is gonna go top 10, i think it'll be a trade up. If a team sees him as that good, I don't see him lasting to NYJ

My mini mock draft.

1. Cleveland Browns

Garrret - I like this pick even more when we are playing a 4-3. BPA

2. San Francisco 49ers

Mitch Trubisky - They can't draft Allen after drafting Armstead and Buckner. Foster is a possibility. But they need to draft a QB. Kizer would be a wiser choice, because they are going to ask whoever they draft to play sooner rather than later, but I think it's Mitch here.

3. Chicago Bears

If Allen is there, he'll be the choice over a QB.

4. Jacksonville Jaguars

Derek Barnett - The Jags desperately need pass rush. Put this one in ink.

5. Tennessee Titans

Jamal Adams - Could be Hooker, but I think Adams goes here.

6. New York Jets

DeShone Kizer - No-brainer for them

7. San Diego Chargers

Cam Robinson - They've just got to take OL don't they? They could take Hooker as well I guess.

8. Carolina Panthers

Leonard Fournette - They always take BPA and Stewart is 30 now.

9. Cincinnati Bengals

Solomon Thomas - THey need more pass rush.

10. Buffalo Bills

Deshaun Watson Well they screwed themselves. They ran Tyrod Taylor out of town and I would doubt that Cardale is ready.

11. New Orleans Saints

Solomon Thomas- Another no-brainer.

12. Cleveland Browns

Malik Hooker- I think that I subconsciously let him drop. He really shouldn't be this low.

Are there two Solomon Thomas in this draft?

Tribisky and Kizer going before Watson...lol. Those dudes are scrubs. The last guy with as few starts as Mitch to get drafted was Marc Sanchez and Kizer got benched last season and was awful. 58% completions, in COLLEGE? Come on, that's terrible!


The draft, where everyone out thinks their eyes. This reminds me so much of the Cam Newton draft where everyone thought Cam was a bust and the Panthers took him anyway. The Browns WOULD draft one of these bums over a guy who torched the closest thing to an NFL defense in college, TWICE.



If we could end up with Garret and Watson, I would buy season tickets. If we draft Tribusky and some O-lineman I am burning my jerseys.

if we get garrett and hooker I'd be a happy dude

1. Cleveland Browns - Myles Garrett, DE (assumes 4-3)

2. San Francisco 49ers - I expect a trade down here, but for the sake of this.....Mike Williams, WR

3. Chicago Bears - Jalen Tabor, CB

4. Jacksonville Jaguars - Jonathan Allen, DT

5. Tennessee Titans - Reuben Foster, MLB

6. New York Jets - Cam Robinson, OT

7. San Diego Chargers - Solomon Thomas, DE

8. Carolina Panthers - Dalvin Cook, RB

9. Cincinnati Bengals - Derek Barnett, DE

10. Buffalo Bills - Malik Hooker, FS

11. New Orleans Saints - Marlon Humphrey, CB

12. Cleveland Browns - Jamal Adams, SS

clwb, I'd be shocked if a QB isn't drafted in the top 12 (whether it's warranted or not)

It's way too hard for me to predict what SF is going to do since they haven't chosen a GM or HC yet, but I'll take a stab. Their WR situation looks pretty hideous.

1) Cleveland- Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M

2) *Trade* NY Jets- Mitch Trubisky, QB, UNC

3) Chicago Bears- DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame

4) Jacksonville Jaguars- Jonathan Allen, DT/DE Alabama

5) Tennessee Titans- Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama

6) *Trade* San Francisco- Mike Williams, WR, Clemson

7) San Diego (bleh, LA) Chargers- Jamal Adams, S, LSU

8) Carolina Panthers- Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee

9) Cinci- Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama

10) Buffalo- Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama

11) New Orleans- Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State

12) Cleveland- Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State

Tennessee was tough, too. I went back and forth between CB and S.

There seem to be a lot of different ways this draft could play out. When do the QBs and DBs go?

Yeah, I kind of agree with you. I have a hard time projecting one, despite a few teams needing QBs. I just don't think any are worth a top 12 pick and there are some really talented guys top 12.

Which should push some good value down to 12, The only QB I'd consider at 12 is Watson, none of them at #1. Despite that, its very possible that Watson, Trubiskey, and Kizer are all gone by the time we get to #12.

QB's always get pushed up the board since teams needing one are willing to reach out for the position more than any other.

I hope we don't. I'd be real happy with Chad Kelly a bit later in the draft.

Imagine that corrected to Malik McDowell because for some reason it won't let me edit it.

I'm not sure I'd take him with our 2nd round pick if he was there. I just don't like what I see.

No trades ...

1. Cleveland Browns = Best player in the draft DE Garret

2. San Francisco 49ers = QB Watson - QB reset number 1. National Championship game against a great defense nails it.

3. Chicago Bears = Toss up between Trubisky and Allen. . . DE Allen is the safer pick this high in the draft.

4. Jacksonville Jaguars = Fastest way to help Bortles?? RB RB Fournette I think one of the two top OT's is way too early here.

5. Tennessee Titans = Secondary help .... Who do they think is the best CB in this year's draft? CB [censored] Tabor

6. New York Jets = Driven by need - QB Trubisky.

7. San Diego Chargers = WR is an option here, as is OT but still high.... but S Jamal Adams is too hard to pass up

8. Carolina Panthers = Need OL help in the worst way, OT Cam Robinson makes too much sense.

9. Cincinnati Bengals = I think Hooker is in play here, but the need for an edge rusher is bigger and Solomon Thomas or Barnett are both available DE Solomon Thomas seems to be the rising up boards

10. Buffalo Bills = I'm going to assume Tyrod stays, Buffalo can look at this draft and decide Kizer or whoever is left at #10 isn't going to be value.... Hooker again has to look tempting, but how about a top end 6'3" WR opposite Sammy Watkins?? WR Mike Williams

11. New Orleans Saint = sadly safety is a huge need. S Hooker is off the board.... one of the top CB's is another option.

12. Cleveland Browns = A ton of different ways to go: OT Ramcyyk, QB Kizer, even Dalvin Cook might be viable on offense. . . . but the talent on D is a different level: CB's Humphrey or Lattimore, S Peppers, ILB Foster ... All significant possibilities and upgrade our defense by a quantum level ... taking a flier on S Jabrill Peppers. . . would have love to see Hooker fall, be equally happy with one of the CB's.

I could be happy with those two blue chip defenders with our first round selections.

I don't think that any OT will go in the top 15 selections.

This would be so Jaguars.

They just signed Chris Ivory to a decent contract and they drafted Yeldon in the second round the year before. On top of that it looks like they are going to hire Chip Kelly as their offensive coordinator, which would be a horrible fit for Fournette.

I would hate for us to use #12 on a "flier." We are not good enough to do that.

Would you trade up for Hooker? I think he really fills a serious need. Any indication of what Williams will stress? Are safeties a big part of his D?

I have not seen enough of him play - but as far as ability Peppers is top 10 on many of the rankings I look at. I think a big time playmaker at S is a bigger impact than CB. That's the reason for leaning that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEjoi9pzUf0

Peppers Highlights

I think they would give up picks for the right player.

I can see where we might trade up this year. Not at the top of the draft, but I could see us try to move up in to the 3rd round if we have a target available.

I think Fournette and Peppers are dynamic athletes that catch the eye of many people. However, I think both are overrated and I hope the Browns don't draft either in round one.

Well, "flier" was your word, not mine. If you think he is a dynamic playmaker then it really is not a "flier."

Peppers is a tremendous athlete, but other than tackling, he does not bring much as a safety. He is not good in coverage. For all the talk of him being a stud safety, his only pick in college was in his next to last game. And had nothing to do with coverage, it was a tipped ball that went right to him, as he was covering an empty piece of field.

I think the sense I have had with Peppers is the summary you supplied. So he is a risk. At SS, and with some pressure up front with Garret, Shelton, Ogbah, Collins, Kirksey +1 . . . I think coverage becomes less of a factor - but being a playmaker stopping the run and blitzing would be an impact for us. . . .

I really like ILB Foster - and would have called his name, but someone made a very solid point that only 2 out of Kirksey, Collins and Foster would be on the field for Nickle and Dime packages. . . so a CB or S has a bigger impact in terms of number of snaps they will see ... that swayed my final thought process. No doubt I will change my opinion before the draft and having watched more game film.

It depends on what the price is, but yes if it was reasonable. I don't think that we have a FS on our roster right now. We need to find a good starter somewhere, be it in FA or the draft.

I like Peppers for a team that already has a good defense, because you can do some interesting things with him to confuse your opponent, but he really doesn't have a full-time position that you can nail down. The most certain thing that he can do is be a great Nickle LB.

Peppers was asked to be a LB in their defence, so like a DE being asked to make the transition to OLB, so will it be for Peppers to SS.

A hybrid player can offer a DC advantages in disguising their coverages. Also vs hurry up offences, when you can not substitute.