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I will be there, At first I was excited for JM to start.

If McCown plays well and gets a lead up on the Ravens, then the crowd may stay calm.

On the other hand if the Ravens take control and the Offense can't put up points.

Then I will be excited to hear the crowd response.

Being a part of this crowd may be more enjoyable then the game itself.

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I'll bet air time is going for $50 for a 30 second spot.


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Nobody should go to this game, maybe then Haslam will get the picture that Pettine and Farmer are unacceptable. MNF and nobody is there, maybe then he'll make some changes.

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Have a good time. Say hi to Mike and Joe for me.


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Upper level tix on the 50 yard line are selling for $20 on Stubhub.....


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Upper level tix on the 50 yard line are selling for $20 on Stubhub.....


They should give the fans $20 to go to this game.


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Upper level tix on the 50 yard line are selling for $20 on Stubhub.....


I paid $104 for the same seats for the Browns @ Pittsburg game. Turns out I couldn't go but my Bro and his grandson represented.


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Originally Posted By: ddubia
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Upper level tix on the 50 yard line are selling for $20 on Stubhub.....


I paid $104 for the same seats for the Browns @ Pittsburg game. Turns out I couldn't go but my Bro and his grandson represented.


How far we've fallen since.


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The tickets may be $20 but I'm sure the beer will be $104.


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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Upper level tix on the 50 yard line are selling for $20 on Stubhub.....


I paid $104 for the same seats for the Browns @ Pittsburg game. Turns out I couldn't go but my Bro and his grandson represented.


How far we've fallen since.


In less than 2 weeks.


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You couldn't pay me to go to this crapfest.

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I am gonna volunteer to work Monday and unplug the dvr before I go to work. I dont want to be tempted to watch another Browns game this year.

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
You couldn't pay me to go to this crapfest.


My buddy had club level seats, free, with food and drink tickets - and I said I wanted nothing to do with it. Sad.

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Seriously, I haven't seen this much apathy toward the team...ever.


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It's been a long 16 years, it's hard to believe this team has been back for 16 years and almost year after year it's the same thing. At one point do you stop getting kicked in the stomach and say enough is enough? I think that's where a lot of fans are with this team.

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I can barely stomach to watch half a game much less waste my time driving to go see one.


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Originally Posted By: jfanent
Seriously, I haven't seen this much apathy toward the team...ever.


I haven't seen this much apathy from the players ever ^^


You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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Originally Posted By: Mourgrym
I am gonna volunteer to work Monday and unplug the dvr before I go to work. I dont want to be tempted to watch another Browns game this year.


You'll constantly think about it while the game's on, and then be pissed that you allowed your emotions to get the best of you.

Might as well begrudgingly watch the game.


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OH I will be as excited as a kid at christmas before the game. I wouldn't miss it for 1,000 bucks. Here we go Brownies here we go. I am also going to the game on Dec 6th It's not a waste of time or money IMO (If anybody thinks so, thats fine I just disagree)


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
OH I will be as excited as a kid at christmas before the game. I wouldn't miss it for 1,000 bucks. Here we go Brownies here we go. I am also going to the game on Dec 6th It's not a waste of time or money IMO (If anybody thinks so, thats fine I just disagree)

Agree. I'll be totally upset afterwords, but I'll be even more upset if they played and kick some serious arse and I stayed home watched "Heidi." Besides I'm in eastern Missouri watching the Rams ain't no treat!!

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Have a good time. Say hi to Mike and Joe for me.


I sure will .. and I plan on heading over to the Goose Island Tap and having 2, One for me and one for you smile

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My buddy had club level seats, free, with food and drink tickets - and I said I wanted nothing to do with it. Sad.


That's where Peen and myself sit, Club. If you still have a chance to get that tix for free. Go, It's worth free !

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Seriously, I haven't seen this much apathy toward the team...ever.


Desperately in need to have winning seasons...

Browns fans are the very best..

I cannot wait for the pride and love for this team to return with winning and conquer the the misery we feel as fans.

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Originally Posted By: dawgpound19
Nobody should go to this game, maybe then Haslam will get the picture that Pettine and Farmer are unacceptable. MNF and nobody is there, maybe then he'll make some changes.


No there is a better way. Nobody take their seats till after the coin flip. You get your message to the owner and to the coaching staff. If you want to wear paper bags on your head go for it.


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I hope the fans chant Johnny's name from the get-go. Then, I hope they all leave at halftime.

It will be like a morgue. How stinking appropriate.

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I hope the fans chant Johnny's name from the get-go. Then, I hope they all leave at halftime.

It will be like a morgue. How stinking appropriate.
Good, let's make it all about Johnny and not the other 50+ players. Coach makes his first public discipline against not playing to the code "play like a Brown" and fans should rebel. In a week or two, when players shut it down, same fans scream fire Pettine he lost the locker room! Same old Browns!

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Originally Posted By: Dawg_LB
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You couldn't pay me to go to this crapfest.


My buddy had club level seats, free, with food and drink tickets - and I said I wanted nothing to do with it. Sad.




Sorry man. I have club seats. No free food or drinks. I do think there are some premium seats that offer free food and drink.

I doubt they were offered to you and you turned them down. If so, your bad.


There comes a point to end this nonsense. My opinion is the vast majority saying they wouldn't go, wouldn't go if we were undefeated, so just shut up. I repeat, just shut up. Most of you wouldn't support the team when they win.


Just Shut-Up.....Please. If you don't go to 2-3 games a year, you really don't have any room to say who should go and who shouldn't go.


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It's not all about Johnny. It's about how freaking inept our organization is.

They bring back Gordon and start him first week back after being suspended more times than anyone I have ever heard of and they demote JM for holding a champagne bottle.

They are incompetent.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
It's not all about Johnny. It's about how freaking inept our organization is.

They bring back Gordon and start him first week back after being suspended more times than anyone I have ever heard of and they demote JM for holding a champagne bottle.

They are incompetent.

Sounds to me like they changed their ways from last year. Learning maybe?

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I normally hit 1-3 games a year. This year? None. Finances, trying to coordinate a date with the 2 other couples we usually go with, daughter's games (ain't missing those), a family Christmas, the bad record. Just not going.

Couple of years ago I had purchased 4 tickets. Ravens game, home, 4 pm. We were spending Sunday night in Cleveland. On friday, the husband of the couple we were going with said "Hey, one of our suppliers offered me 4 club level tickets. Should I take them?" I said "of course. I'll sell the tickets I bought. Got about 70% of my money back.

Great seats in club, great bathrooms, food looked good but we didn't eat. Just behind the seats, it was warm. Great experience - but, the food and/or drinks weren't free.

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It's not all about Johnny. It's about how freaking inept our organization is.

They bring back Gordon and start him first week back after being suspended more times than anyone I have ever heard of and they demote JM for holding a champagne bottle.

They are incompetent.

Sounds to me like they changed their ways from last year. Learning maybe?

Learning how to suck more? We were 7-9 last year, any bets we win more than 3 games this year?

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Nobody should go to this game, maybe then Haslam will get the picture that Pettine and Farmer are unacceptable. MNF and nobody is there, maybe then he'll make some changes.


No there is a better way. Nobody take their seats till after the coin flip. You get your message to the owner and to the coaching staff. If you want to wear paper bags on your head go for it.


The both of you remind me of fair weather, bandwagon bengals fans.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
I normally hit 1-3 games a year. This year? None. Finances, trying to coordinate a date with the 2 other couples we usually go with, daughter's games (ain't missing those), a family Christmas, the bad record. Just not going.

Couple of years ago I had purchased 4 tickets. Ravens game, home, 4 pm. We were spending Sunday night in Cleveland. On friday, the husband of the couple we were going with said "Hey, one of our suppliers offered me 4 club level tickets. Should I take them?" I said "of course. I'll sell the tickets I bought. Got about 70% of my money back.

Great seats in club, great bathrooms, food looked good but we didn't eat. Just behind the seats, it was warm. Great experience - but, the food and/or drinks weren't free.


I know you get to games my friend. I was sorry we couldn't meet up this year. Maybe next year. I have club seats, I know that the food isn't free. This year however, there are other premium venues that do have free food and drink. Well, it isn't free. The seats cost a ton. If someone offfered a p[erson those seats, why in the heck wouldn't you take them? Some of the comments some people make are just silly.

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Nobody should go to this game, maybe then Haslam will get the picture that Pettine and Farmer are unacceptable. MNF and nobody is there, maybe then he'll make some changes.


No there is a better way. Nobody take their seats till after the coin flip. You get your message to the owner and to the coaching staff. If you want to wear paper bags on your head go for it.


The both of you remind me of fair weather, bandwagon bengals fans.


I wouldn't be a Bengal fan if they were the only team in the league.


The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Nobody should go to this game, maybe then Haslam will get the picture that Pettine and Farmer are unacceptable. MNF and nobody is there, maybe then he'll make some changes.


No there is a better way. Nobody take their seats till after the coin flip. You get your message to the owner and to the coaching staff. If you want to wear paper bags on your head go for it.


The both of you remind me of fair weather, bandwagon bengals fans.


I wouldn't be a Bengal fan if they were the only team in the league.


If they were the only team in the league they could only play with themselves, which not surprisingly sounds exactly like what a bengals fan would want.


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The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Nobody should go to this game, maybe then Haslam will get the picture that Pettine and Farmer are unacceptable. MNF and nobody is there, maybe then he'll make some changes.


No there is a better way. Nobody take their seats till after the coin flip. You get your message to the owner and to the coaching staff. If you want to wear paper bags on your head go for it.


The both of you remind me of fair weather, bandwagon bengals fans.


I wouldn't be a Bengal fan if they were the only team in the league.



Perhaps not, but boycotting the team is exactly what bengals fans called for, and did. They claimed to be fans but decided that not attending games would send a message.

That's what I was talking about.

This whole idea that the team doesn't know they're doing poorly and need it pointed out to them is silly.

Do you somehow think that "sending a message" is going to make the team go, "Oh hell, they're right, we're 2-8 and we didn't even notice that until the fans pointed it out."


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I don't know, but do you think filling the stadium and buying the team's concessions will send a message that we are unhappy w/the product?

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I don't know, but do you think filling the stadium and buying the team's concessions will send a message that we are unhappy w/the product?
thats the ONLY thing they'll pay attention to, if it affects their bottom line

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I don't know, but do you think filling the stadium and buying the team's concessions will send a message that we are unhappy w/the product?


I don't know how the team could think anything other than "we are unhappy w/the product." Does anyone actually think they don't already know that?

They are unhappy with the product themselves. We are 2-8. It's right there for all to see. What message can we send that would make it more clear to them?

That's one of the reasons I hate to hear fans boo the team on game day. Do the fans really think they have to let the team know when they've made a mistake on the field? Do they think the team doesn't already know it? Do the fans think they are helping?

I think the players and coaches are the very first to know when they've made a mistake. Hardly do they need the fans to tell them that. On game day I've always felt it was the fan's job to be encouraging rather than discouraging. But maybe that's just me.

Overall the team is 2-8. I'd bet if you took a poll of the players, coaches, and FO that you' not find a single one of them satisfied with the outcome so far. Sending them a "message" that they already know and live and die with every day is kind of pointless.

It isn't helping at all. It's just venting frustration in the guise of "sending a message." It' simply hiding a bad motive under a good one.

Of course, if you don't like the product then don't spend your money on it. It's just like anything else. But do that as a means of spending wisely in an effort to get the most bang for your buck. Don't use it from the mindset of teaching anyone a lesson or sending a message.


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