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did yall read the same thing i did? Peen's is literally arguing that because DOGE isn't an official agency, it should have MORE authority than the official ones.

What are we supposed to do with that information?

That's not information. That's indoctrination.

I think thats a great post that spells things out succinctly. So I doubt if you will receive a response.

To read and agree with the vast majority of 'peen's responses since Trump admin kicked off requires a SERIOUS lack of common sense, a large amount of cognitive dissonance, and/or little to no critical thinking. He's not the only one as well... and for me it's become really apparent because many of the posters that would be arguing intelligently for GOP actions have gone silent. For a group that seemed perfectly fine going around in circles with Pit for multiple pages in multiple threads, I find the silence jarring.

DOGE’s hastily launched website has already been hacked: ‘This is a joke of a .gov site’

DOGE’S website launch got off to a rocky start after two pages on the site were defaced

Tech billionaire Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency’s website has already been hacked after it was hastily launched earlier this week, and has reportedly leaked classified information.

DOGE’s website launched Wednesday as Musk vowed the department would be “maximally transparent.”

“I don’t know of a case where an organization has been more transparent than the DOGE organization,” Musk bragged in the Oval Office with President Donald Trump this week.

ut the launch got off to a rocky start after two pages on DOGE’s site were defaced by hackers, 404 Media first reported.

Two messages appeared on the site on Friday afternoon, with one saying: “THESE ‘EXPERTS’ LEFT THEIR DATABASE OPEN - roro.”

The other said: “This is a joke of a .gov site.” Both messages were since removed.

Web development experts told 404 that the site “feels like it was completely slapped together,” and contained “tons of errors and details leaked in the page source code.”

The two sources, who the outlet did not name, said that they believed DOGE’s site is not running on government servers.

DOGE also came under fire for posting classified staffing information of a U.S. intelligence agency online, HuffPost first reported.

A function on the website allows users to “Trace your tax dollars through the bureaucracy.” Users can explore Cabinet-level agencies and other departments to review their headcounts and total wages earned.

A footnote at the bottom of the page claims that the data excludes the military, Postal Service, White House and intelligence agencies. HuffPost reported, however, that DOGE’s database provides details on the federal agency that builds and maintains U.S. intelligence satellites.

The National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) appears to be the only intelligence agency on DOGE’s database.

Musk’s SpaceX holds a $1.8 billion contract with NRO to build spy satellites, HuffPost reported.

“People are scrambling to check if their info has been accessed,” a Defense Intelligence Agency staffer told the outlet.

An NRO spokesperson deferred to DOGE when HuffPost contacted them for comment.

The Independent has contacted the White House for comment.

As Musk and his DOGE team have gone on a cost-cutting rampage, firing thousands of federal employees, the department has doubled its own spending budget in recent days.

The initiative said in late January it had spent $6.75 million, a figure updated to $14.4 million by February 8, according to government records obtained by Fortune.

The new spending was on “anticipated reimbursements from agencies in support of Software Modernization Initiative,” according to the records.

https://www.the-independent.com/new...s/doge-website-hacked-musk-b2698683.html

To add into all the drama, DOGE claimed $8 billion in savings for an effort where it was only $8 million. That’s assuming it amounted to “savings” as well. However, what he will continue to rely on is the fact that the lemmings will take it and run with it.

And he’s right…they will.

That's only one exmple. Many of the numbers on that report are inflated to claim billions upon billions more in cuts than actually happened........

Why DOGE’s ‘Receipts’ Show Elon Musk’s Math Doesn’t Add Up

The receipts, initially promised before Valentine’s Day, were finally made public Monday evening.

Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency finally released a “wall of receipts” as part of its “maximum transparency” promise Monday, but some of their figures are not quite adding up.

The group boasted that its “estimated savings” for American taxpayers is $55 billion so far, but the total it gave Monday adds up to just a third of that figure—and appears to claim credit for the closure of two government offices that were shuttered under Joe Biden.

Those closures are the National Archives centers in Hoffman Estates, Illinois, and in Fairfield, Ohio. DOGE’s site claims the latter location was a “True Termination - Agency Closed Office.” No other details are offered.

Those centers’ approximate closing dates were announced way back on Aug. 1, however, when Biden was still president.

“The records and artifacts of the Barack Obama Presidential Library, which have been held temporarily at Hoffman Estates, will be permanently moved to College Park, MD, in late FY 2025,” a news release from National Archives announced at the time.

That release added of the Ohio location: “The records in the Fairfield facility are being relocated to other FRCs, including the Dayton FRC and Great Lakes storage facility during FY25.”

That announcement came 10 days after Harris took over the Democrats’ presidential ticket, which was well before the idea of DOGE had gained traction in MAGA World.

Now that Biden-era closing is being touted as a win by Musk’s Gen Z minions.

The “total savings” for both centers is a combined $780,308, which is a drop in the bucket compared to the country’s $6.8 trillion budget. It does, however, appear to call into question the legitimacy of other DOGE line items.

DOGE’s site has confused many users who have noted a handful of its nixed contracts showed a figure of $0 under “saved.” That includes a terminated contract for Dry Ice at the Department of Health and Human Services, which DOGE’s site lists as costing $104,190 but shows $0 in savings when clicked on for additional details.

Others claimed on X that Musk’s team were adding the full value of a contract into its total DOGE savings—even if the majority of the contract had already been paid out and will not be recuperated.

And the single biggest line-item cited by DOGE—a massive $8 billion contract with D&G Support Services, LLC for “PROGRAM AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT SERVICES FOR OFFICE OF DIVERSITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS (ODCR)” appears to be closer to $8 million—leading some to question whether DOGE had employed an automated data scraping system to compile the report without human oversight.

DOGE’s site does not say if its savings total accounts for the severance expected to be paid to tens of thousands of federal workers who accepted a buyout offer. Those workers, should the offer be honored, will continue being paid through the end of September and would likely nullify any so-called “savings” from their firings until October.

The sharing of DOGE’s receipts were initially promised by Friday, but that deadline was pushed back to “the weekend” and eventually to Monday.

DOGE’s homepage claims it discovered “fraud” and included it in its receipts, but no contracts were singled out as fraudulent by the group. It says the figures listed account for approximately 20 percent of “overall DOGE savings.”

A disclaimer on the DOGE site says it plans to eventually publish data “in a digestible and fully transparent manner with clear assumptions, consistent with applicable rules and regulations.”

DOGE has committed to updating the site twice a week and, eventually, to allow for it to display data in real time. For now, users can click on most line items and view the contract that was terminated. Among the cuts identified Monday were $10 million for “Mozambique voluntary medical male circumcision” and $29,000 for “Central America Gender Assessment Consultant Services For Forest Service IP.”

Musk has been quiet on X about his group’s newly-released receipts, but has continued to praise their efforts.

That included an incorrect boast that the group had saved near $110 billion—far more than any figure DOGE has claimed itself.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/many-of-those-much-hyped-doge-receipts-arent-adding-up/

LMFAO, How you know it’s a heist:

Now, understanding the tide of dislike mounting against them, the Elon Trump presidency is floating a carrot of $5K checks to every American as a “tax rebate”. But if every American got an equal share of the SECOND 4 Trillion Dollar Wealth Transfer in a Trump presidency those checks would be 12K per head, including children annually. But no, this is a carrot of distraction so we don’t realize the top 1% is getting a permanent 1.2 million dollars EACH annually for the second time, while working Americans get chump change. So first round, you got a couple $1,200 stimulus checks… and the top 1% got 7-8 years of $1.2 Million EACH. This time they are starting to talk about $5k, which they will inevitably talk themselves into reducing because it’s just too much, but to keep the heat off they do about half. And it will only go to adults with some restrictions. Those who are on assistance will see less, those who work but still need help will see a hair more. Those working without assistance, who pay the majority of the taxes will get the full amount. While those who never knew the feeling of hunger or worked a job that makes you sweat in their lives will get millions. And a hand full of Billionaires will get billions.

Raise your hand if you are down for that deal at the mere cost of public education, reducing social security by $65 a month, and taking the crappiest government medical insurance and food benefits away from the poorest kids and families in America. Yeah, that doesn’t include all the other programs and services you are losing like heating assistance, foreign aid, having actual watchdogs making sure the government is’n’t being used to rob us blind, or having planes that don’t crash weekly!

Are we winning yet? Because none of that will bring down housing or eggs prices. Nope, those are about to skyrocket for a second time and the inflation will be nuts. And if you think this is what you voted for RAISE YOUR HAND AND BE COUNTED. I want to see who the idiots are.

All this chaos and pain is ONLY for the benefit of the financial elite. The rest of us get a token to ride the doubled down rerun second round of massive deficit growth that we will be taxed to pay, while dealing with back breaking inflation and the greedy using our money to buy up our homes and other assets they can RENT BACK TO US. Did you catch the THEY ARE USING OUR OWN MONEY TO SCREW US BIT? It’s almost like 50+ years of wealth transfer wasn’t enough… and they know it’s unsustainable because growth will eventually end. So they are taking it all now, and we are letting them. Some are even rooting for it. Think about that.

IRS plans to lay off 7,000 probationary workers beginning Thursday, AP source says

https://apnews.com/article/irs-layoffs-trump-elon-musk-doge-df2b3c8d53ff9f2d276c8b29f8004dde

Make tax cheaters great again?

And just as tax season is getting under way.

It makes the ongoing heist easier. Sure some small potatoes will get away with cheating, BUT SO WILL ALL THE ELITE AND MEGA-CORPS. They’ll save trillions and the smaller guys get away with a few million. That is acceptable loss to the elite.

Wow.

1. You can't tell me that's not pandering shamelessly.

2. What impact will that have on inflation? I'll be curious to see everyone who railed against Biden for issuing so many stimmies back in 2021 (I was one of the people who railed on him for that by the way), suddenly do an about face and proclaim "This is a great idea!"

3. Wasn't this supposedly done to save money??? Aren't they supposed to get rid of the deficit, reduce debt and enable a sovereign wealth fund (that also doesn't make any sense)??? So now, they're going to - I suppose - reduce spending, but keep the debt the same, increase the deficit with tax cuts, and also checks to people at large? Holy moly...

What they say will vary on any given day. They know if they pander it will garner support.

I think the “Sovereign Wealth Fund” is the fleecing of the government's tax revenue to be controlled by the oligarchical elite. Dude I posted the economics video from calls it techno-feudalism. Break the world up into fiefdoms that the financial elite own and rule. Everyone else reduced to peasantry.

That would explain why Trump wants Canada, Greenland, and the Panama canal. Taking and keeping the west would be easy then. And it’s the NAZI type solution to kill off those you find undesirable, non-essential, weak, or simple too brown/black. I hope this is wrong, way wrong, but there is some sort of nefarious end game or Trump and Elon wouldn’t be blatantly breaking all these laws.