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Originally Posted by FrankZ
Godwin is validated.

Maybe - or maybe the post was making a point you didn't realize. Maybe you didn't even bother to read it. Maybe once you see 'Hitler' you don't think it matters?

As the poster of the Daily Mail article stated: "It is the way that the fringe media outlets and especially social media is molding the young, the inept and the unread. Sure, trump is part of it, but I think it is much bigger than that."

It wasn't a post about Trump being like Hitler - although there are legitimate comparisons regarding their political strategies relating to calling the media "fake news" and 'the greater the lie' ... The post was about young people being swayed to believe positive things about evil people and terrorist organizations.

I'll add that the Daily Mail is a garbage "news paper" and if the article is based on their own 'Polls' - which is what it states - I would not put too much faith in any of the data that it claims to represent.

So in addition to Godwin's Law - we need a "MLK Law" or "Republican Apathy Law" - that will be based around the accurate observation by dawglover:

"I truly have never seen this level of “looking the other way” in my lifetime." -- because without a doubt Trump supporters have developed this skill to truly elite levels. Because .... They don't care. Same with 34 convictions. Same with bibles. Same with grabbing p*****s and sexual assault. Same with umpteen former cabinet ministers and close confident either being in jail or telling the world that Trump is a threat to the USA...... They don't care and willingly and actively look the other way.


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The problem today is it is hard to decide which garbage news outlet you are going to believe. It's easiest to believe the one that caters to your individual views.


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Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by FrankZ
Godwin is validated.

Maybe - or maybe the post was making a point you didn't realize. Maybe you didn't even bother to read it. Maybe once you see 'Hitler' you don't think it matters?

As the poster of the Daily Mail article stated: "It is the way that the fringe media outlets and especially social media is molding the young, the inept and the unread. Sure, trump is part of it, but I think it is much bigger than that."

It wasn't a post about Trump being like Hitler - although there are legitimate comparisons regarding their political strategies relating to calling the media "fake news" and 'the greater the lie' ... The post was about young people being swayed to believe positive things about evil people and terrorist organizations.

I'll add that the Daily Mail is a garbage "news paper" and if the article is based on their own 'Polls' - which is what it states - I would not put too much faith in any of the data that it claims to represent.

So in addition to Godwin's Law - we need a "MLK Law" or "Republican Apathy Law" - that will be based around the accurate observation by dawglover:

"I truly have never seen this level of “looking the other way” in my lifetime." -- because without a doubt Trump supporters have developed this skill to truly elite levels. Because .... They don't care. Same with 34 convictions. Same with bibles. Same with grabbing p*****s and sexual assault. Same with umpteen former cabinet ministers and close confident either being in jail or telling the world that Trump is a threat to the USA...... They don't care and willingly and actively look the other way.

I did read it. People have used Hitler and Nazis as an insult like they do idiot. People that haven't read history have no comprehension about how evil they were. They've become caricatures. Once you remove the absolute horror they caused it is easy for people to see things that aren't so bad.

I've said before, here, that the way people use nazi it cheapens what their victims endured.

If you support the idea Trump is "literally Hitler" you are the problem.

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Yes exactly my point when you brought up Godwin ... no-one in the article said trump is like Hitler, that was not the point of the article. No-one in this thread said Trump is literally Hitler.

Having said that - some of the things Hitler did with regards to calling the press/media the enemy of the people is something Trump has absolutely done, which I did mention. But I guess people choose to look the other way or use a fake narrative about what was or wasn't said based on other threads to deflect from some things.

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Originally Posted by mgh888
. No-one in this thread said Trump is literally Hitler.


And yet there are people here who have said that. People's posts are a body of work, it is not important which thread it was said in. It has been said here and in the media. It resonates in the echo chamber. It desensitized people to actual evil, and it helps people to sympathize with evil.

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
The problem today is it is hard to decide which garbage news outlet you are going to believe. It's easiest to believe the one that caters to your individual views.

And whether you believe juries.

Edit to add; And trump's own words.

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Originally Posted by FrankZ
And yet there are people here who have said that. People's posts are a body of work

And so was Hitler's. He didn't start out by having concentration camps and gas chambers. That's how it ended up. Making comparisons to what we see today as it pertains to when he began his life as a leader of Germany is not accusing someone of having gas chambers. It's showing a valid comparison to how that all began.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
The problem today is it is hard to decide which garbage news outlet you are going to believe. It's easiest to believe the one that caters to your individual views.

One side is mired in lies, the other side is not. And if any US adult can’t tell which side is which from living in reality, then the problem is much larger than news outlets. Do you think you won’t be pissed at the ride Trump took y’all on when this is finally over, assuming we survive it? I can’t imagine you won’t be once you figure out he caused your money all that pain.

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Originally Posted by FrankZ
Originally Posted by mgh888
. No-one in this thread said Trump is literally Hitler.


And yet there are people here who have said that. People's posts are a body of work, it is not important which thread it was said in. It has been said here and in the media. It resonates in the echo chamber. It desensitized people to actual evil, and it helps people to sympathize with evil.

Unlike JD Vance, I don’t think Donnie is America’s Hitler… hell no. He’s America’s Russian PUPPET Ex-POTUS, a Manchurian Candidate. But he is fascist like Hitler, wants to be a dictator day one, and wants to destroy all of America’s institutions and beliefs to install some kind of hybrid theocratic fascist regime. But he’s no more Hitler than some other rando poop throwing monkey is Churchill. He’s far too stupid to be Hitler. Hitler actually had a high IQ.

Nope, Donnie is America’s brand of dumbassery, and he is our fascist problem here and now… nothing like Hitler, yet. But every bit as dangerous to our democracy as Hitler and the Axis were back then. And 70 million DUPES voted for him last time.

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Armed Militia 'Hunting FEMA' Causes Hurricane Responders to Evacuate—Report
Published Oct 14, 2024 at 4:40 AM EDT
Updated Oct 14, 2024 at 2:16 PM EDT



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Federal emergency response workers operating in North Carolina's Rutherford County in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene were told to evacuate on Saturday over concerns that an "armed militia" was threatening workers in the area, it has been reported.


An official with the U.S. Forest Service, which is supporting recovery efforts along with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), sent an message to numerous federal agencies at around 1 p.m. on Saturday warning that FEMA has advised all federal responders in Rutherford County to "stand down and evacuate the county immediately," The Washington Post reported.

National Guard troops had come across two trucks of "armed militia saying they were out hunting FEMA," the email said. "The IMTs [incident management teams] have been notified and are coordinating the evacuation of all assigned personnel in that county."

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Emergency personnel are observed on a road as the Rocky Broad River merges into Lake Lure, carrying debris from Chimney Rock, North Carolina, on September 28, 2024, in Lake Lure, North Carolina. Workers in Rutherford... More Melissa Sue Gerrits/Getty Images

The Post reported that two federal officials had confirmed the email's authenticity, but it was not clear if the threat described was viewed as credible.

An unnamed Forest Service official told the newspaper that personnel were moved to a "safe area" and some work in the area was paused. They were back in place by Sunday afternoon, the official said.

FEMA, the Forest Service and the National Guard have been contacted for comment via email outside business hours. This article will be updated if a response is received.


The incident demonstrates the growing concerns about the safety of government workers in North Carolina, parts of which were devastated after Hurricane Helene made landfall in Florida on September 26. Helene killed at least 230 people as it moved north, leaving a trail of destruction across six states.

Since then, misinformation and rumors about the response from FEMA and other federal agencies has been rampant.

Some on social media called for FEMA to be targeted after a rumor that the devastated town of Chimney Rock was going to be seized and bulldozed by the government circulated online, despite local authorities and news outlets debunking the claim.



FEMA also been accused by former president Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, and other Republicans of not being able to respond well enough to Helene because it had diverted disaster relief funds to help migrants.

That is not true, because while FEMA administers the Shelter and Services Program, funding for it comes from a separate pot of money funded by Congress for U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Other false claims that have circulated include that people taking federal relief money could see their land seized or that that $750 is the most they will ever get to rebuild. FEMA has pushed back against the false claims and conspiracy theories, setting up a page on its website to combat misinformation and rumors.


FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell said last week that the false claims were hurting morale among workers as she urged people in hard-hit areas to accept the government's offer for assistance.

"We have thousands of people on the ground, not just federal, but also our volunteers in the private sector," Criswell said at a news conference in Asheville on October 7.

"And frankly, that type of rhetoric is demoralizing to our staff that have left their families to come here and help the people of North Carolina. And we will be here as long as they're needed."

https://www.newsweek.com/armed-militia-hunting-fema-hurricane-responders-1968382

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Arrest made after FEMA crews threatened amid hurricane relief efforts

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fema-crews-threatened-amid-hurricane-145523932.html


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