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Phil didn't play Nose last year. They had him at END. how stupid. Phil was a perfectly acceptable Nose the previous year under Horton. Hughes played well there as well. Kitchens as well. Now we have another. NONE of those guys should be playing end. So keep Kitchens and CUT Taylor and Hughes. Yes, this kid may be an improvement. But it wans't a NEED. We NEED a pass rusher. We NEED a defensive end to bookend with Bryant. But once again we will play a big fat slow DT out of position at end and wonder why we never touch a QB. 31 sacks again. Woo hoo.

Well the round is over for us, have a good one guys. Peace

Doubt Mack can pass an NFL physical right now...but that's an interesting idea...We all know Mack wanted out and still probably wants out...

Shelton was our first round pick, this guy is just filling a need with a free pick.

I like this first round. We are definitley deeper in the trenches and will be better for it in the long haul.

He has to be happy, and the Broncos gave up a fair amount to get him. They must really love him, with the foot injury, and the drug issue and arrest.

I find it hard to describe my level of hurt.

Least we are better than what we were yesterday

Hughes was our best run stopper. Taylor is better than Kitchen. What you smoking?

LOL,to Philly for Bradford, both 1 year guys

At least the Steelers drafted the biggest bust of all in Bud Dupree, lol

Still a bad 1st for the Browns though

That is horrible logic.

The Steelers and Broncos walked away with two of the top 5 pass rushers in the draft.........and we got OL depth drafting ahead of them both. There is a reason the Browns continue to suck.

Does anyone think we can get a 4th round pick for Phil Taylor to a needy 4-3 team? I sure hope so, and we make a deal

thats coaching....not the pick

I would dump Phil if we could find a taker. I'm just not convinced your going to find anyone to give you a 4th for the guy.

It makes sense with both Mack and Schwartz being FA at the end of this year. Browns will have good depth and a high round OL C/T to jump in, with a year in the system. If he is not already penciled in for RT this year.

And weed is legal.

I am not all that impressed with Taylor, at any position on the DL.

I wonder how 5'11(wait I think he may be 6'0?) Manziel is going to see over a 6'7 center? Lol

Yep...overrated by a lot of people on this board.

Didn't we just sign Hughes to an extension?

He will wear platform shoes.

I like Taylor but I don't like that he's always hurt. He's no primo pash rusher though.

That's our DL though. There are some capable guys, but none of them keep DC's up at night.

I just said he was better than Kitchen, not that he was that good

Lol couldn't hurt

Erving at RG is an upgrade and you now have Grecco as the backup and he is a hell of a backup. This kid is nasty, he plays well to the whistle blows and then some. If mack goes elsewhere we have his replacement, if he stays we have Wow what a freaking line!

I know your not happy with this pick, but the more I think about it the more I'm coming around. I didn't think we would spend a 1st on OL depth, but we all wanted to upgrade the OL depth, well we did. And we don't know the behind the scenes deal with Mack. It could be that he has let them know he's gone at the end of '15. This is a good move to break the kid in at RG RT and if need be he can slide to C in '16. They did say that they thought he would be a PB at C.

Taylor is this...I'll use a game I focused on him against Baltimore in 2013...a game in which he was trash talking with the Ravens..Phil Broke a double team somehow and tackled the RB for no gain...He then was single blocked the next play...and couldn't disengage from a single block for maybe 5 whole seconds...Flacco had all day...Phil Taylor didn't do anything else that whole game.

Shaq Thompson/Panthers

Breshad Perriman/Ravens

Shaq Thompson was nuzzling...Carolina needs another WR, has one of the most iffy Olines...can use another CB...yet take a project cross bred LB/safety

Thought for sure they'd grab an OT or WR or worst case S Collins

Thompson is a great player. He will thrive in whatever role he is in.

Solid picks by Farmer. The Browns let the draft come to them, and addressed needs with BPA's, IMO. We should defense the run much better than last year (when we were among the league's worst, if not THE worst). With Erving we now have a ready C if Mack decides to vacate, or if Mack stays, a guy that could even replace Joe at LT when he decides to retire. In the meantime, he's starter quality at any spot on the line.

At 43, I hope we go either Tevin Coleman, RB, Indiana or Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State.

When you have to add the disclaimer, "when healthy", then you need to do something about your depth to cover the possibility of one of your top OL becomes "not healthy".

We could bring in the type of guys we tried to replace Mack with last season. Chumps who couldn't do the job. Typical OL depth is full of those types of guys. Our current OL depth fits that category. You know, the type of player who doesn't help a bit when a starter goes down.

We got Erving with the pick from the Bills where they took Watkins. I'd take an Erving over a Watkins every day and twice on Sundays.

We're doomed at QB unless JM shines this time around. The worst that could happen to our QB's would be to lose a G or the RT or the C. Erving is protection against that happening again.

And, like you said and most people think is going to happen anyway, he's major replacement if Mack walks. And this time it won't be replacement with a chump.

Greco was our best Guard last year. He was a top 15-20 Guard in the NFL last year. So we draft a guy to send him to the bench with massive holes among playmaking positions on our team.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Wait, what?

I think Schwartz is the player at risk.

Can Irving play right tackle?

there is no way he better than a top 15 RT in the NFL