It's about time we rock and roll all night and party every day. I may have to purchase my first ticket and check the place out now, ending the boycott.
Calling Dr. Love! Kiss is set to join the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, alongside other new inductees Nirvana, Hall & Oates, Peter Gabriel, Linda Ronstadt and Cat Stevens.
The 29th annual induction ceremony will take place at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn on April 10, and will be open to the public (as it has for recent ceremonies in Los Angeles and Cleveland). The event will air as an HBO special in May.
"We know that engaging the fans is a huge opportunity," says Joel Peresman, president/CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. "It gives them a chance to be a part of the ceremony, but it also adds a palpable energy to the event. Once we decided to open the ceremony to the public in New York, that had a huge impact on the decision to have it at Barclays Center."
Chosen by more than 700 voters (artists, historians and music industry professionals) of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, the 2014 honorees will also receive an exhibit at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland in conjunction with the ceremony. Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first recording.
For a second year, the Rock Hall implemented fan voting in choosing this year's inductees, which was available on its official site, Rolling Stone and USA TODAY, and generated nearly 1.4 million votes this year. The five artists with the highest number of votes (three of whom will be inducted) made up a fans' ballot, which counted as a single vote in choosing this year's honorees.
Among fans, Kiss (239,000 votes) and Nirvana (218,000) enjoyed easy victories. Two artists that failed to receive induction despite swells of public support were Yes (151,000) and Deep Purple (166,000), beaten out in the overall balloting by Hall & Oates (113,000), Peter Gabriel (111,000), Linda Ronstadt (85,000) and Cat Stevens (75,000).
Aside from Kiss and Stevens — who received Rock Hall nominations in 2010 and 2006, respectively — the Class of 2014 is made up of first-time nominees. And although fans may believe that many of the 16 artists put to the vote are long overdue for induction, Peresman assures that no artist is ever considered a "natural," shoo-in choice.
"All of the 2014 inductees introduced us to something new," Peresman says. "They might have drawn from their predecessors or built on what came before them, but they all took something from their roots, transformed it, made it their own and brought it to the world at the right time."
Additional honors will be given to late Beatles manager Brian Epstein and former Rolling Stones manager/producer Andrew Loog Oldham, who picked up Ahmet Ertegun lifetime achievement awards for their work behind the scenes in the music industry. The award for musical excellence (formerly known as the sidemen category) was given to Bruce Springsteen's longtime backing group, the E Street Band.
Tickets go on sale in January, with an exact date to be announced. More information will be available at www.rockhall.com.
This year's inductees:
Peter Gabriel. The former Genesis frontman brought funky, synth-infused flavor to hits such as Sledgehammer and Shock the Monkey, but arguably made his biggest impact with the powerful anti-apartheid anthem Biko.
Hall & Oates. With smooth vocal harmonies soaring over rich, pop-rock melodies, Daryl Hall and John Oates brought rhythm & blues to the top of the charts, scoring smash singles such as I Can't Go for That (No Can Do), Private Eyes and You Make My Dreams.
Kiss. Instantly recognized for their flashy attire and black-and-white face paint, these iconic heavy-metal rockers are best known for their Alive!, Love Gun and Destroyer albums, as well as their reputation for putting on dazzling, pyrotechnic-laden performances.
Nirvana. Led by late singer/guitarist Kurt Cobain, this grunge-rock trio cemented its place in rock history with early '90s hits such as Lithium, Heart-Shaped Box and Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Linda Ronstadt. At the forefront of the folk- and country-rock movements, this full-voiced beauty made her name with covers of Blue Bayou and You're No Good.
Cat Stevens. One of the biggest-selling artists of the early '70s, the mellow British songsmith crafted introspective, tranquil tunes such as Peace Train, Wild World and The First Cut Is the Deepest.
Say what? Over Yes....where was GFR? I liked the Cat....I though Tea for the Tillerman was a good album and spun it many times, but him over others? Not so sure.
Yes, in my day you put these black vinyl discs on a turntable and spun them. I still have a stack 4 feet high, but no turntable anymore. I don't want to throw them out, which would make Pat happy, and I don't want to take them down to the vintage record store to sell them....so they sit on the corner of a closet. My Cheech and Chong Big Bambu' still has the paper attached. All the Beatles albums...including the Butcher album.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Nirvana and the grunge movement was right in my wheelhouse (I was just entering teen-dom when that was big). So, I'm glad to see them get in.
I understand KISS getting in, but I have to say, I never really got into them. Not that I didn't like them, just didn't get into them. To each his own.
I like Cat Stevens' music, but not sure I'd put him in "Rock and Roll."
*Edit* One band that I'm surprised isn't in is the Grassroots. Maybe they just didn't have the star power, and maybe I'm just biased because I like a lot of their songs.
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Say what? Over Yes....where was GFR? I liked the Cat....I though Tea for the Tillerman was a good album and spun it many times, but him over others? Not so sure.
Yes, in my day you put these black vinyl discs on a turntable and spun them. I still have a stack 4 feet high, but no turntable anymore. I don't want to throw them out, which would make Pat happy, and I don't want to take them down to the vintage record store to sell them....so they sit on the corner of a closet. My Cheech and Chong Big Bambu' still has the paper attached. All the Beatles albums...including the Butcher album.
I'm a big fan of Yes, but a bigger fan of Cat Stevens. British electro/synthpop has always been my genre of choice, so it's obvious why I'd support Cat Stevens there. Though I really just believe the Rock Hall of Fame to be a pretty big joke. I mean, they have Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five in there as well as Blondie.
My biggest beef with the hall is the lack of metal bands. You pretty much have Black Sabbath, Metallica and that's it. Iron Maiden, Motorhead and most of all Judas Priest were huge influences in the direction of music, and had the popularity to go along with it. After reviewing all of the inductees, I don't have a problem with most of them....but come on, Blondie? If you want a female led innovative band, the Eurythmics or the Pretenders would have been better choices.
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Black Flag, Joan Jett, Joy Division, Iron Maiden, The Smiths/Morrissey, and Sonic Youth are all on that list and you could make such an argument for all of them that it's ridiculous.
Also I can really see R&R becoming a lot more rap friendly in the next few years with less and less traditional rock and roll acts being nominated in the next few years.
So what low-talent gimmick band will everyone demand to be enshrined now that KISS is finally in? Gwar? Insane Clown Posse?
It cracks me up EVERY single year that people actually get worked up over who's not in yet. And every single year I explain that they have to spread it out. Mix the older w the newer.
Every band in that list above WILL eventually get in. And many more...
My problem with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is that it's not a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
It is really a Pop Music Hall of Fame.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Quote: I mean, they have Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five in there
Its not about whether you are a fan or not. Grandmaster Flash is a huge early influence of hip hop, which is a part of rock and roll, and a huge influence on rock and roll music today.
As far as KISS, ehhhh not a very talented band musically, their influence was pretty much all negative. Put in as a popularity ploy more than anything else.
KING
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Quote: My problem with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is that it's not a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
It is really a Pop Music Hall of Fame.
It has to be, and as someone said will become a rap HOF in a few years....The Country HOF is where the pop artists will land in the future years. That is where all the pop artists are landing these days. Not many today who get airplay these days are country/western artists.
Just the way things evolve. Somehow the RRHOF has to find a way to get Paul Rodgers in...one of the best rock front men not being in is a joke.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Deep Purple Jethro Tull Stevie Ray Vaughan Chicago Todd Rundgren The Cars Warren Zevon Dire Straits Steppenwolf Blue Oyster Cult Electric Light Orchestra
Quote: My problem with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is that it's not a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
It is really a Pop Music Hall of Fame.
Well that's the good thing about good music. It finds a way to become popular.
Not all popular music is good. Not by a long shot. Of course, it is a Hall of FAME, not a Hall of TALENT.
Quote: So what low-talent gimmick band will everyone demand to be enshrined now that KISS is finally in? Gwar? Insane Clown Posse?
It cracks me up EVERY single year that people actually get worked up over who's not in yet. And every single year I explain that they have to spread it out. Mix the older w the newer.
Every band in that list above WILL eventually get in. And many more...
I cannot believe that you are hating on GWAR!!!
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Agree with you on Paul Rodgers. His vocals on "Wishing Well" still make my one hair stand on end. I think Free should get in, but I'm not a big fan of Bad Company.
As far as KISS, ehhhh not a very talented band musically, their influence was pretty much all negative. Put in as a popularity ploy more than anything else.
KING
+99999999999999 I cant stand Kiss, or the kiss army.
I agree with your list, especially with Deep Purple. The song "Child in Time" should alone be enough to gain entry. They have such a great career spanning over multiple decades. It's a good start putting KISS and others in who badly deserved it. But until Deep Purple is in the hall's credibility is not that great. I mean it took forever to get Rush in. That's kind of embarrassing.
Quote: My problem with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is that it's not a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
It is really a Pop Music Hall of Fame.
Well that's the good thing about good music. It finds a way to become popular.
Not all good music becomes wildly popular, and not all popular music is good.
Rock and Roll should be Rock and Roll ....... not Madonna, and other such pop music artists who have never been remotely Rock and Roll.
It's like having a Football Hall of Fame, and inducting Baseball and Basketball players because they were popular. They can be popular, but will never be football players. Many of the acts and artists in the RRHOF may have been popular, and may be popular, but they are, and never will be R&R artists.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Deep Purple Jethro Tull Stevie Ray Vaughan Chicago Todd Rundgren The Cars Warren Zevon Dire Straits Steppenwolf Blue Oyster Cult Electric Light Orchestra
Wow Kiss gets in before Chicago? Did Devo already make it in too?
Deep Purple Jethro Tull Stevie Ray Vaughan Chicago Todd Rundgren The Cars Warren Zevon Dire Straits Steppenwolf Blue Oyster Cult Electric Light Orchestra
Wow Kiss gets in before Chicago? Did Devo already make it in too?
Chicago is one of my All Time Favorites, but I think that Kiss may have sold more records.. I'd have to check.
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"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Quote: Not all good music becomes wildly popular, and not all popular music is good.
That's the thing about music though. It's EXTREMELY subjective and very generational as well. There isn't really any "formula" to measure musical talent, other than possibly record sales. And as we know, that's nowhere near the best gauge of talent either. I always laugh at these arguments though that happen every year about the RRHoF. One group of fans is always going to feel shafted that one guy got in over another guy, and only because THEY liked that type of music over the other.
I also think "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame was a bit of a misnomer, as it's apparent they've always wanted to make this more of a radio music hall of fame.
Quote: Not all good music becomes wildly popular, and not all popular music is good.
That's the thing about music though. It's EXTREMELY subjective and very generational as well. There isn't really any "formula" to measure musical talent, other than possibly record sales. And as we know, that's nowhere near the best gauge of talent either. I always laugh at these arguments though that happen every year about the RRHoF. One group of fans is always going to feel shafted that one guy got in over another guy, and only because THEY liked that type of music over the other.
I also think "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame was a bit of a misnomer, as it's apparent they've always wanted to make this more of a radio music hall of fame.
yup.
It's the main reason I don't usually chime in with an opinion in this annual thread...
Quote: So what low-talent gimmick band will everyone demand to be enshrined now that KISS is finally in? Gwar? Insane Clown Posse.
That's the part that kind of bothers me. Just because you wear a lot of make up, get millions to bite on nothing more than a stage show and can play four chords, doesn't make you HOF worthy in my book.
Cat Stevens is by far and away more talented than "The Kiss marketing group".
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That's the problem with music/art, it's subjective. The only stats in music are record sales, revenue, concert attendance.... all of which Kiss excelled at.. whether their music is any good is up to the person listening...
The Mission Statement of the R&R HOF: The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. is the nonprofit organization that exists to educate visitors, fans and scholars from around the world about the history and continuing significance of rock and roll music. It carries out this mission through its operation of a world-class museum that collects, preserves, exhibits and interprets this art form and through its library and archives as well as its educational programs.
It's about History and Significance, not about talent.
Quote: It's about History and Significance, not about talent.
Which is the main reason I've never been and probably never will go.
Wife and I went once...........4?, 5?, maybe 6 years ago. It was okay. Neither of us have had a desire to go back, and we get to Cleveland 1-4 times per year.
One thing that's always bugged me about the RRHOF.. why isn't the induction ceremony held in Cleveland each year? this is where the phrase Rock and Roll started, this is were the HOF is located.. why isn't it here every year?
Can you imagine having the NFL HOF induction ceremony ANYWHERE other than Canton. Have they ever? Has the MLB HOF Ceremony ever been held anywhere but in Cooperstown NY? I tried to look it up but couldn't find it. Where's MAC when you need him?
Anyway, it's not a big deal really, I just don't understand why?
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Quote: Agree with you on Paul Rodgers. His vocals on "Wishing Well" still make my one hair stand on end. I think Free should get in, but I'm not a big fan of Bad Company.
I liked Free myself....the point being the guy fronted several bands with songs everybody likes. Here is a deeper cut I always liked.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Quote: That's the problem with music/art, it's subjective. The only stats in music are record sales, revenue, concert attendance.... all of which Kiss excelled at.. whether their music is any good is up to the person listening...
The Mission Statement of the R&R HOF: The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. is the nonprofit organization that exists to educate visitors, fans and scholars from around the world about the history and continuing significance of rock and roll music. It carries out this mission through its operation of a world-class museum that collects, preserves, exhibits and interprets this art form and through its library and archives as well as its educational programs.
It's about History and Significance, not about talent.
Oh then its perfect for KIss then
You may be in the drivers seat but God is holding the map. #GMSTRONG
Easy answer,because Cleveland is a backwater city that no longer has a place on the world stage. It's about the movers and shakers of the music industry,and the media that follows them.When it''s time for them to party,it's NY or LA,it sure as hell ain't Cleveland.Just be satisfied that the museum is here.
Quote: Easy answer,because Cleveland is a backwater city that no longer has a place on the world stage. It's about the movers and shakers of the music industry,and the media that follows them.When it''s time for them to party,it's NY or LA,it sure as hell ain't Cleveland.Just be satisfied that the museum is here.
I get that, but is Cooperstown the center of the universe or is Canton?
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Quote: Easy answer,because Cleveland is a backwater city that no longer has a place on the world stage. It's about the movers and shakers of the music industry,and the media that follows them.When it''s time for them to party,it's NY or LA,it sure as hell ain't Cleveland.Just be satisfied that the museum is here.
I get that, but is Cooperstown the center of the universe or is Canton?
Cooperstown is a beautiful, cool place. Canton isn't. Probably part of the reason the rock folks decided against the area.
We got the HOF....that is a year around deal. The induction ceremony is once a year.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
The people involved with the ceremonies are completely different.The ceremonies themselves are completely different. Canton and Cooperstown are Meccas to their respective sports. Lets be honest here,the RRHOF is BS,kinda like the tiddly-winks HOF.More people grow up dreaming of being exiled from,than enshrined in,Cleveland.
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