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Your rush to judgement on all of these players is pretty startling. Also, just because talking head A or talking head B says this guy could have been picked in the 4th or 5th doesn't mean that the player can't become a valid starter. Granted, they spend more time evaluating the players than us on this message board (it is their job), but they're not always right. There is no mathematical formula to say this player will succeed and this player will not. They day I solely base my opinions on what the ESPN or NFL network guys say (especially Dilfer) is the day I stop watching the draft.  Remember when TJ Ward was picked? A lot of people were kind of pissed off and had never heard of him at first either. All that some knew was that he played for Oregon based off of what they had seen in the Rose bowl game with OSU. And that he could have been picked in lower rounds. Of course if the guy can play then who cares what round he's picked in. But in another sense maybe I can understand why you feel this way. Could it be because this draft is void of a lot of talent that has been in past drafts that we almost take for granted?
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What Cb left on the board is better? Not who "you feel" is better. Who is without a doubt better?? I can answer that. You nor me nor ANYONE else knows. You have to do your homework and pick who you feel best suits the strengths you are looking for. This isn't a perfect science and once you get to this part of the draft it comes down to usually no two teams having the same boards. Whether people on here believe it or not just because its not who we would pick doesn't make the guy suck. Some of you kill me!!!! I can't believe some of the blind responses I read on here.
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Courtney Brown might have similar size, but don't forget, Courtney Brown was playing as a down lineman. Mingo will be playing OLB in a 3-4.
By the time they tried moving Courtney Brown to a OLB, his injuries had ruined his career.
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Bess isn't a guy who is going to put up huge numbers or anything like that, but for what we got him for, he's a great pick up.
Great in the slot, and he has a knack for finding the first down marker. He's a first down machine. Definitely will be our go to guy on 3rd and 5's, ala Joe Jurevicius
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Bess = Amendola
Bess averaged near 70 catches in years 09 and 10. Last two years he had receptions of 50 and 60. I agree love this trade. Having Little, Bess, and Gordon is pretty impressive. Don't forget Bess is a return specialist too.
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I wasn't necessarily comparing Bess to JJ, just that they're going to fill the same role. Slot, possession receiver who will move the chains.
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i still dont get why everyone has written off benjamin? Wit his speed how does this guy NOT BE ON THE FIELD AS A WR????
Speed isn't everything. Benji is tiny. For him to succeed he has to learn to use his body better. He has to learn to adjust to the ball in the air. For him to truly excell he's going to need to develop a better field awareness too. Finding the soft spots in zones where he won't take massive hits. Some of that is on the QB but the WR has to learn to protect himself by being smart. Benji has a lot to learn. Bess is an instant upgrade in these catagories.
I don't think anyone is giving up on Benji. I just think we're glad we upgraded this year. If Benji wants a roster spot he'll have to earn it. Blazing speed or not.
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I like the fact they traded down 2 picks in the 4th and 6th round and picked up Bess.. still keeping the same number of picks. So willing to give the FO a B grade atm
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With Compensatory picks and Changes in leadership, I see no reason the Browns could start winning in the next 20 years!
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I agree. I was screaming at the TV for us to trade down at #6. We would have AT LEAST ended up with a S/CB/G combo of some sort ... and possibly more if we would have traded down a 2nd time.
Mingo had better end up like his comparison (Demarcus Ware), or else we will not have gotten the VALUE we could have.
Got to have someone to dance with in order to trade - so that sort of talk is a redundant. I'd love to have traded down and got loads of picks too - want I want bears no resemblance to what was possible.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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