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As I said, throwing throwing motion isn't what he is changing.



Throwing motion changes from the back of the ear forward.


All that is being changed here is from that happens to the point the hand reaches the back of the ear.



What appears hard, is for you to face the reality..his motion is being changed..no matter where you pinpoint it..it's still his motion..geeze dude..whats up with dat???

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He did great for himself at the combine. - Bigger, stronger, and more athletic than the other qb's available. If he has a good pro day, he could move back into the first round. - No joke.

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However Tebow would need GREAT talent around him.




Most do!




However the kid MUST be in a west coast offense. Not the gimmiky spread offense crap Peen is saying will be in the NFL.

He's athletic enough to get out of the pocket and he can make the short throws.

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People said the west coast offense was "gimmicky" when it debuted.

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However Tebow would need GREAT talent around him.




Most do!




However the kid MUST be in a west coast offense. Not the gimmiky spread offense crap Peen is saying will be in the NFL.

He's athletic enough to get out of the pocket and he can make the short throws.






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People said the west coast offense was "gimmicky" when it debuted.




Unless you have a bunch of Chris Johnsons or CJ Spillers on your team you will never have a speed advantage that it requires. Also guys in the NFL can tackle much better in space than in college.

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However the kid MUST be in a west coast offense.




Not sure that's accurate. What I mean is that I'm no guru so I really don't know..

But either way,, ask any QB in any system that's been even reasonably successful, my guess is they will all say they needed talent playing with them.. that was my only point..


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Unless you have a bunch of Chris Johnsons or CJ Spillers on your team you will never have a speed advantage that it requires. Also guys in the NFL can tackle much better in space than in college.




I hate to label you bro, but I'm going to here. - You're one of the people that see the term "West Coast" and you equate it with speed. - I gotcha, you think west coast, warm place, hence speedy athletes. - In contrast to the midwest, where we are regarded as big, burly, ground pounders.

You're wrong bro. The West Coast offense doesn't utilize speedy running backs like you mentioned.



Go look up a few teams past and present that run the west coast offense, and then look up who their running backs are.

I'll name a few from yesterday for you: Roger Craig, Tom Rathman, Dorsey Levens, Edgar Bennet, Terrelle Davis, Shaun Alexander.

Here's some from today: Frank Gore, Bryan Westbrook, Deuce Staley, Michael Turner.


- All big, burly, bruising running backs. The only one that comes close to being a "speed" back is Westbrook. - And he isn't that fast, rather, he's small and powerful.


The west coast offense runs on big, bruising, lineman and running backs. The smaller, shiftier players in the WCO are on the outside - Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Koren Robinson, Donald Driver, Antonio Freeman, - all smaller, shifter types.

It also helps to have a quarterback who can scramble, but isn't necessarily a "running quarterback" - Joe Montana, Matt Hasselback, Matt Ryan, Brett Favre, Steve Young - ok he was a running qb, but you get my point.

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I'm pretty sure candyman was saying you needed speed guys to run the spread.

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I hate to burst your bubble their "bro" but you completely missed what I was saying. I was saying you need speed guys like CJ for the spread offense.

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Tim could be a great QB if he works very hard. Not just as a good thrower but as a runner. So you get the whole package kind of.


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Masterful analysis once again, Ballpeen. Good job! But more importantly, did you see it and is it more effective or just a hype type session to pimp the Timster. I don't want him unless they fix his feet meself.


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I hate to burst your bubble their "bro" but you completely missed what I was saying. I was saying you need speed guys like CJ for the spread offense.





My bad dude. - I misread your post. I take my label off you, and place a label of "doesn't pay attention to detail" on myself.

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University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow is going to conduct individual workouts for the Buffalo Bills and the Seattle Seahawks following his Pro Day workout, according to NFL.com.




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Like I mentioned some time back, Gailey would be a good coach for Tebow. He knows how to use his talents, and Buddy Nix, the GM is one heck of a football man....yes, I am biased.....I know Buddy Nix and he knows me. We've shared a foursome at least 50 times from his days as head coach here in Chattanooga.


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I also think Buffalo would be a good landing spot for Tebow. I just don't think he will be around when they pick in the 2nd round.

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Tebow would be better off with the colts, pats, or cards

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I still feel another Florida team may go after him.. Miami..


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Why the Cardinals?

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They're more spread out and have great WR's to help Tebow

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From the money end, were I a "Florida team" guy, I'd be doing everything I could to get him there,....Miami, Jax,....

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However Tebow would need GREAT talent around him.




Most do!




However the kid MUST be in a west coast offense. Not the gimmiky spread offense crap Peen is saying will be in the NFL.

He's athletic enough to get out of the pocket and he can make the short throws.




The Run n Shoot is a spread offense that has been successful in the NFL. I'd love to see a team run it again. Its a fun offense to watch.

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While former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow wowed evaluators with his on-field performance at the NFL combine last month, he scored a 22 out of 50 on the Wonderlic test, the Palm Beach Post reported, citing an NFL source.




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I'm just joking around. Lots of people seem to think Tebow can do no wrong.

By comparison Sam Bradford got a 36 on the Wonderlic. Alex Smith got a 40. Jim Kelly and Dan Marino got 16's.

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So what's the word? I heard he's going to turn Gatorade into wine today . . .

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So what's the word? I heard he's going to turn Gatorade into wine today . . .




Water into Gatorade.


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Water into Gatorade.






and then he walks on it?

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Water into Gatorade.






and then he walks on it?




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Was just watching ESPN,, Mangini and Holmgren are at Tebows workout today..

Should be interesting. ESPN said they'd carry it live...


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Mangini and Holmgren are at Tebows workout today..


No they are at Joe Haden's workout today LOL


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Was just watching ESPN,, Mangini and Holmgren are at Tebows workout today..

Should be interesting. ESPN said they'd carry it live...





For a guy that shouldn't get drafted in the first round he is getting way too much coverage from the media. There are far better prospects in the draft.

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People are interested in Tim Tebow. They watch when he's on TV. That means TV people will put it on if he is playing/working out. It doesn't matter where he's going to get drafted.

Same thing as Favre with his drama.

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Was just watching ESPN,, Mangini and Holmgren are at Tebows workout today..

Should be interesting. ESPN said they'd carry it live...




I'd be interested in knowing how many other 'pro days' both of them are attending. I can't imagine it being a lot of them. Obviously, someone at Florida was high enough on their list for them both to make the trip.

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I didn't see it, but Holmgren was interviewed about Tebow.. Anyone know what was said.., Not that anyone should put any thought into whatever is said.. you know damn well, nobody is going to commit to him at this point and tip thier hand either way... Just wondering.


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League invites Tebow to New York for draft
Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2010 3:31 PM ET
Here's one that might prompt more than a few people to mutter something along the lines of, "What the hell?" (Possibly with a different four-letter word at the end.)

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Florida quarterback Tim Tebow has been invited to New York for the draft.

The move likely is related to a recent report from Alex Marvez of FOX regarding the possibility that "top projected second-round picks" will attend the second day of the draft.

This year, the first round will be held on Thursday night, April 22. The second round will be conducted on Friday night, April 23.

There's a chance that, when round two ends, Tebow still will be available. And that definitely would not be a blessing.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/17/league-invites-tebow-to-new-york-for-draft/


I guess this clinches it.. He's a lock to go late 1 early 2 .


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I guess they just want us to watch the train wreck when he doesn't get drafted in Prime Time.....


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That's what I was thinking. They all said how they felt bad for BQ, but I'm sure they didn't mind the suspense of watching him sit and rot for 22 picks either...lol.

No way is Tebow going round 1, and their is some real doubt if he goes round 2. I don't understand why they would invite him other than as you said to show the train wreck.


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Because he's the biggest thing since...fill in the blank..since he did soooo well at his pro day and is soooo popular,it'll cause the ratings to go through the roof..

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Because the NFL is broadcasting rounds 2 and 3 in Prime Time on Friday. What's better for ratings then having Tim Tebow sitting there waiting for a team to draft him? Nothing is better for ratings.

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since he did soooo well at his pro day and is soooo popular,




You say that as if having a good pro day and being popular is a bad thing


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