DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2024 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 6 Bengals 24 Post game thoughts...

Disheartening, but expected.

Sending DTR out to the sharks is bad coaching. He wasn’t ready.

DTR's pocket awareness needs serious work. not really much to say in an expected loss.

im just glad the team isn't quitting, if that counts for anything.

Nothing really comes to mind

Swish, I know you don't post here much anymore but I wanted to tell you you were right about us drafting Lamar Jackson. We should have. He's turned into a fine QB. Browns fans would go crazy for him, me thinks.

We now know that neither next year’s quarterback nor his backup is on this roster.

Two more opportunities.

At least the DTR talk can be Old Yeller'd. Although, this will just turn into, "let's see what we've got with Zappe" talk.

James Ford had a nice game.

Tough weekend in Ohio sports for the Haslams.

Cavs clobber the Bucks.

Ohio State dismantled the Vols with Jimmy and Dee in attendance.

Browns did Browns things.

this has to be satire, he's been in the league for 2 years now.. and the Bengals are hardly sharks, they are one of the worst defenses in the nfl

Not just DTR but rather the whole offense wasn't ready. Fire Dorsey and all the coaches on the offense...

Maybe I should have wrote not good enough?
Either way it was painful to watch.

The defense did enough to win. DTR is not an NFL QB. The Oline is old and ineffective at this point. DTR holds the ball forever and can't see open receivers. With no viable QB on the roster, I can't see how this team will compete next year. I got a feeling Myles will be gone, he has got to understand the situation. The receivers looked like they did with Watson, jogging routes. Hopkins is toast.

I do believe the WRs are a decent group, Tillman, Juedy, and I think Woods, as I believe Moore will be gone. If they can sign an average starter at QB, I believe we could win with this group. The Oline needs attention, I think Jones will be the LT, but the gaurds are going to need replaced as I think Bitonio will call it a wrap.

This draft will make or break Berry

We are a bad team that accepts being bad . I do not see how bringing Stefanski back can Happen . Very Poor Coach in my opinion

You were just looking to take another dig at KS, your act isn’t getting old, it IS old.
I can smell that a mile away.

Not at all. It’s the OC who’s responsible.
I just felt sorry for the guy.

Nor will he be.

The guy isn't good enough to go by his initials. For me it's just Dorian.

It's just BLAH at this point ... such a LONG season of BLAH

It feels longer and more abysmal than the 1999, 2000 seasons etc

Not sure he can be in the bigs. Threw pointless picks and intentional grounding while taking sacks today. We need more QB help. Lousy.

Positives: Ford ran with passion again today, he’s stepped up of late, probably playing for his NFL future. the defence showed no quit. Thanks swish, for mentioning that.


Negatives: DHop can pack his bags, I’ve seen enough of him missing kicks. I’m glad his wife and kids weren’t able to hear what I called him when he missed the convert attempt. DTR just isn’t a starter - I don’t think he processes quickly enough.
Turnovers in the red zone killed us, as did the holding calls prior to the second interception.
We need to draft a quarterback.

I will be going to next weeks game. Once the game was switched to a 4PM start I decided to go.

Not so much for the game. Chances are good I will be gone in the early 3rd qtr. It's more about a road trip with my youngest son, to hit a few favorite restaurants and it will pack on 3 more nights to my Marriott account. I need 6 paid nights by March to maintain my Platinum Elite status.

DTR really cheats his drop, short and choppy steps, no pocket from which to step forward. His LT is mostly worthless. Not sure Conklin has another year, and Bitonio has wrested his hill IMO.

DTR is never ready. He's not an NFL QB and it's time to move on from him.

Ah bard, I think Joel and Conklin both have one more year left in the tank... perhaps... If this is it for Joel, he’s been a great Brown and a good human being. but we need to continue investing in the OL. Dawand Jones will find a place somewhere on our line, as well.

I’m looking forward to New Years college football playoff games. Ticked at myself for not scheduling vacation for the day after.

I’m glad that Myles spoke up regarding not wanting to be part of another rebuild. Hopefully they can find a way to get Aaron Rogers or Kirk Cousins here next year. At this point, I think Roger Goodell needs to get involved and find a way for the Browns to get out of the Deshawn situation. It’s far too unfair to the fans considering what we’ve been through over the last 30 years. - Ain’t it something, come fall ‘25, it’ll be 30 years since Modell took our team away.

Right 30 years and we still haven't won anything. Heck, we can't even win our division.

Tired of seeing this "We have to see what we have for next year." Well, no, we don't. Fans want more of today's same lousy QB play? What did you see to build around? Haven't seen much development, and haven't seen many lousy habits fixed or eliminated'

I am just not that curious! Our fix will need to be broadly better and NFL viable. Tank for that and go there. I applaud Myles Garrett. It is time: Be a franchise!. Get out of the crap shoot developmental business for two solid reasons. First, We don't develop them, little if at all. Second, our picks don't improve by about any metric. How often has JW thrown picks? How often do we take sacks? Fumbles? Reading defenses? Just not curious to wait and watch you grow up and into an NFL QB. Why pretend? Flacco and Brissett were much more competitive. DW didn't make the cut. Can't fish; cut bait.

My only though about this game is same as I have for this season, everything has been on display that shows why we we need to blow this staff up, trade whoever we can for picks for the next regime and the. Rebuild . Hopefully faster than we have in the past. The mired in mediocrity rebuild doesn’t work. Unfortunately with Haslam at the helm I expect the same until he dies and someone else buys the team

thanks bro, but i was also wrong in saying we should dump Baker. way better than this situation Watson has us in.

We have to have the worst QB, RB, O-line, and Offensive coaches in the entire League. I'm so glad they let everyone walk last year, so much better this year!

"I believe, as my friends all know well,
There exists both a Heaven and Hell.
And I'm sure it's a spot
In that place that is hot
That's now home to that ah Modell."

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Post-game thoughts:

"Cleveland Browns: allergic to success- since 1999"

1. I'm glad I had to work today. Last holiday gig of the year (22 concerts in 30 days). Why glad? Because I could ff this recorded trash instead of wasting 3 actual hours irt.
2. When we fumbled on the 1-yard line, I knew the game was over. It's the kind of gut punch bad teams don't overcome. CLE2024 is a bad team.
3. I do like how the D played with zero quit. That's worth mentioning.
4. When CLE plays like this, it sours me from watching any more football that day. It's just too depressing to watch quality football with the taste of Brown still in my mouth.

That's about all I got.
This team wears me out.

Agreed. When I saw the way we played in our first game against Dallas I knew we had problems. DW couldn't do anything right, the O-line looked horrible, too many penalties and in general we didn't look ready to play. After all that time to prepare? AS we all know with the exception of maybe 2 games it just got worse.

Spot on, Davey. And the penalties make it worse. To our credit, we have managed this group to the point where the parts are interchangeable without any falloff in the lousiness of our play. Should be a crime against the NFL and Football that some of these guys are able to dress for games every week. Hopkins should be tidying up his affairs. We can hire folks who are as capable to miss kicks for half his money (and should). Can DW kick?

Developmental QB's develop. DTR is not developing.


And they did just as we all did.


No, no and no are the answer to those questions and we all saw it first hand.

It wasn't bad coaching decision to let him play. It will be bad decision by this FO if he is back on the roster next season.

I'm just curious, after watching Winston throw picks with consistency, what QB on our roster do you think is "good enough"?

j/c...

DTR doesn't have the frame and body mass to survive as an NFL QB. He will be injured more often than not.

The bad part is he looks to have put on weight and muscle since last year and is still fragile. But I will give him credit for effort yesterday. I’m just still not sure I want him in next year's QB room even at 3rd QB. I think sweeping the stink out of that room is called for. But we know we need 3 with two who can at least pass as a starter. I have no idea who, when, how, or where we’ll get them but Berry needs to redeem himself this off-season.

I'd settle for one

I think Spergon Wynn changed his name to Dorian and is attempting a comeback.

It's really Kizer who was placed in a witness protection - type program for his own good. In a safe house with Flipper and JFF; good news is they should all be available. Should make fans forget the Turnover Squad we assembled and started. Gotta see what we can have for next year. . . .

Flipper Wheeden… lol bard