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Well, I believe the Bible and the Bible says you’re wrong. 😀. We were talking about the Bible And whether or not it teaches 7000 year year-old earth and it teaches a beginning which indicates time and that’s cut and dry no matter what your philosophical jargon says

Try to remember what we’re talking about

No, the Bible does not say I'm wrong. The Bible was written by men, and men only know the human concept of time which is completely and entirely limited by what we are able to perceive.

The beginning it teaches is only in relation to our known universe and, again, it is written by men with their understanding. It is also written that God created that beginning, but to do so He must have already existed, thus it wasn't THE beginning, just A beginning, but the very words we use in these contexts are inherently chosen because of OUR limited perspective where "time" and "moments" appear to flow past us, when in reality, all moments could exist simultaneously; like drops of water in an ocean, and we simply hop along from drop to drop. It gives us the impression of a flow of time, but only because we lack the external perspective to notice otherwise.


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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
That’s why he’s condemned neo-Nazis and white supremacist many times right? His supporters are neo-Nazis and they love them because he condemned them many times.

It all makes sense now.

While at the same time using Hitlers own words in his rhetoric verbatim. I guess it all depends which side of his mouth you're listening to because he talks out both sides of it. You choose to listen to one side of his mouth while ignoring the other one.

It all makes sense now.


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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
Well, I believe the Bible and the Bible says you’re wrong. 😀. We were talking about the Bible And whether or not it teaches 7000 year year-old earth and it teaches a beginning which indicates time and that’s cut and dry no matter what your philosophical jargon says

Try to remember what we’re talking about

No, the Bible does not say I'm wrong. The Bible was written by men, and men only know the human concept of time which is completely and entirely limited by what we are able to perceive.

The beginning it teaches is only in relation to our known universe and, again, it is written by men with their understanding. It is also written that God created that beginning, but to do so He must have already existed, thus it wasn't THE beginning, just A beginning, but the very words we use in these contexts are inherently chosen because of OUR limited perspective where "time" and "moments" appear to flow past us, when in reality, all moments could exist simultaneously; like drops of water in an ocean, and we simply hop along from drop to drop. It gives us the impression of a flow of time, but only because we lack the external perspective to notice otherwise.

Or you could just say what the text means, the Beginning of Creation. 😀

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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
That’s why he’s condemned neo-Nazis and white supremacist many times right? His supporters are neo-Nazis and they love them because he condemned them many times.

It all makes sense now.

While at the same time using Hitlers own words in his rhetoric verbatim. I guess it all depends which side of his mouth you're listening to because he talks out both sides of it. You choose to listen to one side of his mouth while ignoring the other one.

It all makes sense now.

All I know is he condemned and disavowed naziism and white supremecy. If his supporters were all Nazis. Why would he do that if his supporters are nazis, like Hillary and people on here claim.

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Their claims accentuate and overstate what's going on here.

What he does is use the exact same tropes Hitler used in the very beginning. Will that lead to him being the next Hitler if he is elected? I would highly doubt that.

the problem is his followers have no idea he is using the same game plan and terms Hitler used to divide the people of Germany. Creating further hatred and divisions within their own nation. Claiming his opponents are evil. Claiming they are somehow the enemy. Claiming networks such as CBS and ABC should have their licenses be removed and taken off the air.

Sadly most of his supporters can't see that. It does certainly mean they are supporting a man who uses the same rhetoric and road map Hitler used in the beginning.

And the problem with your theory is trump has said things to both support and trivialize the far right wing Supremacy groups and Nazi's withing this country. That's what has come out of one side of his mouth. While you ignore all of that and only post about what comes out of the other side of his mouth. Not so much........

Prosecutor: Proud Boys viewed themselves as ‘Trump’s army’

https://apnews.com/article/proud-bo...t-trial-4dc5d0d36bc4c39ea924412dbb51780b

And of course inviting them into your house for dinner doesn't mean anything either in your world.......................

Trump dines with white supremacist, renewing questions about GOP’s leadership and values

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/t...estions-about-gops-leadership-and-values

How Trump’s racist talk of immigrant ‘bad genes’ echoes some of the last century’s darkest ideas about eugenics

https://theconversation.com/how-tru...urys-darkest-ideas-about-eugenics-241548

Sadly you only hear the things you want to hear and claim that's all there is to the story. It's not.


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You know what they say about people that believe everything that trump says?


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