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that was an ugly heart attack ... but a great win

Watson was markedly better, though not always "good"

Foreman gives us a bit more in the backfield, but man did he have a terrible penalty

Speaking of, the penalties are just so bad right now. That's the NUMBER ONE issue for our team

Defense faltered late in the 3rd, but just stepped up enough

I thought Bojorquez punt was the play of the game

j/c Bojorquez for game MPV!

One team being allowed to hold and the other team not makes games way closer than they should be, just like Vegas and the league want it.

Our punter singlehandedly changed the destiny of the game.

Watson started great then went down hill. I don't know why he won't throw downfield. Are our WRs not open or does he not see them?

Poorly coached team lucky to get away with a win.

Onto week 3.

Trevor Lawrence does not deserve the money he got. Coaching is a MAJOR issue. No discipline. Bad penalties. But a win is a win.

Jeudy had a great game. Watson's favorite target.

How funny is it that a single punt can snatch momentum away from a team that had built it over several drives?

That was a monster punt.

I don't think Cooper has ever played a worse game

Last week, the oline probably had 12 penalties.. This week, they almost blew the game... That is the story that no one is talking about

the string of penalties starting with Foreman's face mask, then two OL holds really set a franchise record .. we had the ball at the 15 and moved back to midfield lol

When you don’t do much during training camp other than mental reps, 7on7, and a boondoggle to WV, you have to spend the regular season getting ready to play. After getting kicked in the teeth last week, it looks like they fixed a few things this week. Hopefully the focus of this week is the rules of football.

We are missing two starting tackles, but our interior linemen are taking a boatload of penalties, which suggests they are having trouble beating - or even stonewalling - the guys in front of them.

Clean that up, it’s embarrassing.

That penalty on Foreman was huge, we could have put it away right there. And then we kept backing up.
Watson wasn’t great but made some really nice throws at crucial times.
Defence played well for the most part, Delpit seemed to be everywhere.

we got the W, and the beer tastes better tonight.

Anyone who doesn't think Callahan is missed is fooling themselves. Kevin, or whomever is calling the plays, have to stop getting so cute and have a killer instinct. The rollout on 3rd down while in field goal range to ice the game with one of the worst Left Tackles in the league is a fireable offense. The Oline was gone from one of the best to one of the worst. At this rate, we will set the NFL record in penalties. I beleive we completed 4 out of 25 3rd downs in 2 games. The Offense has no identity. The Defense is decent but not nearly enough pressure or QBs. They have a long ways to go before claiming the best defense in the league crown again.

Watson's mechanics were great the first half then reverted to his Game 1 mechanics the 2nd half. He has no rhythm or chemistry with hus WRs. Flacco coming off the couch was hitting receivers in stride consistently and threw more catchable balls.

1-1 is better than 0-2 but man, do we have A LOT of work to do.

Reminded me of the 0-16 Browns Offense.

- Escaped with a win. Any win is a good win.

- Good game plan today from Stefanski. Established the run early and had Watson in shotgun more.

- A marked improvement from Watson today, but no where near he needs to be for this team to make a deep playoff run. His confidence looked much improved.

- Cooper has not been in these games mentally. His best play was drawing the pass interference.

- Hope Ward's shpulder doesn't become an issue. He kept going in and out of the game all day.

- D'Onta Foreman only average 3.0 yards per carry but ran hard. He's a nice Kareem replacement.

- I did not expect a David Bell to be involved early and often before getting injured.

- Nice game out of both Jeudy and Moore.

- Definsive line played well as a unit. Delpit made plays at the LOS. JOK had a nice game.

- Diamond Leg Hopkins is automatic.

Game balls: Bojorquez and Delpit.

Jeers: The offensive penalties. It's a mess that needs cleaned up. Can't afford these mistakes once the Browns start playing quality opponents.

Double jeers: Nicknaming EverBank Stadium, TreverBank Stadium.

On to welcome the lowly G-Men to town.

Go Browns!

Bell shouldn’t be getting any reps.

Don’t understand it.

just thinking of the game in general .. I don't think I can remember a game where BOTH teams had so many blunders, mistakes, blown chances, etc. it was a rollercoaster of dumb things lol

did you watch same game as rest of us?

Stefanski is in charge of the unit that couldn’t stop committing penalties. The offense has no identity and he has no killer instinct. 2-3 times we had a chance to put away and we went into 3 runs and punt. We should have never let Callahan leave or at minimum made them give us a draft pick. This oline plays like it’s the first time they met. I saw zero AB’s in run game. I saw bitonio get manhandled over and over. I saw Jones turn back into the fat slob of college. Can’t believe they didn’t notice this in camp.

We have an issue of catching the ball on both sides. I’ve never seen anything like it. Cooper very much doesn’t want to be here and it shows. I’d say effective immediate , Jeudy is WR1. He atleast catches the ball and knows how to run a scramble drill.

We won by sheer attrition and the defense and punter made the back to back plays that saved the game. But it was still too close. Team has a lot of work to do and it’s very clear they should have been playing preseason

What would it take for you to care less? He didn’t deserve COY last year, he got lucky and caught lightning in a bottle with Flacco and Schwartz defense kept us in every game. Dan Campbell should have won. Nothing special about stefanski. It was not good coaching that won the game..lmao we have a full field+ worth of penalty yards because of Stefanskis unit . In fact we almost lost because stefanski could manufacture a single yard in two straight drives to close it out. You blame tackle and run game. Who is in charge of that? Just curious, same with the drops. It’s his side of the ball

A Win is a Win, especially on the road. Again we still have the KS Hot and Ice Cold play calling. Team is still undisciplined, way to many penalties. I feel like Jacksonville did more to lose the game than we did to win. Great job by our special teams today, Hopkins and Boroquez are outstanding players. For a first time in many years I feel safe that J Proche is our returner who really KNOWS HIS JOB. Our defense seems pretty sound and did a much better job against the run, pass rush is solid and is consistently strong. The Oline is currently a crap heap that doesn't seem to be able to execute much of anything. Don't know what the scheme difference is between Callahan and Dickerson but we dont look very good up front. Overall a good W but if we dont get things cleaned up we could see a whole lot more Dallas type games IMO.

one thing too: we really need to ditch the reverse play near midfield after we have some momentum. You can set you watch by it ... and it is about 10% efficient

Unfortunately, the analytics dept will say deviations in the expected probability dictates that it will be more successful in the short term.

How does Hopkins not know the kickoff rules? Love the guy, but we could have really put the game away without that penalty.

He probably knows it. Or perhaps not. Everyone else is getting mental-mistake penalties, so why not the kicker?

It’s the Browns, man. It is never easy.

They were too busy getting to know each other in WV to review the rules.

yeah, that penalty on the kickoff was a really, really big mistake by us

That Hopkins penalty was something that you’d never see from a Belichik or Kyle Shanahan coached team. Huge play negated by an under coached player. However, Hopkins and the rest of the special teams still get an A in my book. He’s such a great kicker.

Do we have tight ends?

I have no way of knowing of my opinions are true because it involves what is going on in a certain players mind. I have read many times on Facebook Browns pages and on here that Watson doesn't care because he now has his guaranteed contract money and makes his injuries worse than they really are so he can sit.

I find this hard to believe but after watching today, Amari looks like he is just doesn't want to be here, and it isn't because of his big drop. Those things happen. Today his body language just looked like he didn't care. Obviously watching on TV you don't have a lot of access to him, but even 2 shots on the bench he just looked disengaged,

To me, he is an amazing receiver, and I hope I am wrong, and his play improves.

Just my 2 cents.

Could be true. With Flacco he knew he had a QB who could rifle the pigskin down the field. Watson hasn’t been doing that.
Who knows though? Maybe Coop is just off to a bad start. He did drop one today. I was like , “catch the ball!”, as we all were.

He dropped more than one

I think we messed up Cooper’s head trying to trade him. Maybe he’ll come around. We need him.

j/c
A vast improvement in most areas of the game (exception of the penalties).

DW came out "hot" - although on more than a one throw in the initial drive a little lucky ... you need luck but the bigger issue was poor decision making. A bit more hitting WR in stride on a designed play - but lots and lots of bolting from the pocket and making things up on the fly. The OL doesn't help at all - but that is not the only issue.

Gameplan in the first half was better than the second half. Whether that's a Jags adjustment or Browns lack of adjustment - idk.

With the way the game was going it felt like we were saved by a punt that went out at the 2. We've had lots of bad luck to lose games - I don't mind taking some good fortune to seal a game. But essentially the bad 2nd hald performance took away most of the feel good factor from the first half.

Next week we'll see if we are taking steps forward or not - NYG are a team we really should beat "comfortably" at home, although at the moment that's not how it's going to feel come Sunday.

we almost always have a better approach in Q1 than Q3. KS is typically a good script guy. His teams are generally well prepared to start the game and then we kinda try to "hold on"