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That’s a big problem. For someone like me- an idiot that has nothing to lose- to speak about Deshawn like he’s the worst acquisition in sports history. - That’s one thing.
Dan Orlovsky is a paid member of the media, someone whose life depends on what he says in public. For him to call for the backup qb, after one game, tells me that we have a very, very big problem on our hands. It isn’t normal for the media to call for the backup to replace a starter this early in the season.

We’re a bit screwed.

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I base it on the players demeanor too. Compare their body language and energy when Watson is the QB to when Flacco was (and I'm not saying Flacco should be the QB, just using it as an example)

Our players know Watson isn't the guy


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I changed my signature…

Yeah, that was a hot mess.


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David Njoku spotted in walking boot, set to have further tests on Monday


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I really hate not playing our starters during the preseason. I understand there was a lot of teams that did that, and lead to a lot of sloppy play today.

Just the penalties on our team alone was horrible. We had a couple of huge plays negated by dumb penalties, and that kind of things can be ironed out in preseason.


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I'm not a Winston fan at all, but after what we saw today. He deserves a shot and can't possibly be worse than Watson.

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I'm effing done with this [censored] franchise.
Go Baker and the Bucs.
I mean, a winner he is. And a winner has no place in a loser franchise.

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Venting:

Watson looked like trash - again. He's played two outstanding games as a Brown. A few average games and a lot of trash games. Anyone trying to defend the trade isn't being honest.

OL looked like garbage - so we ran the ball 19 times and passed 45 times (with a QB that looked like crap). Stefanski clearly hasn't changed. Add to that how poorly coached we looked and the penalties. Ey ey ey. Painful for a team we all thought was on the cusp of turning things around and becoming a perennial division contender.

Rationalizing:

We barely played starters in the pre-season - didn't like it but this performance to be expected and will 100% improve. Stefanski has done great with other QB's of lesser talent it's inconceivable he can't get Watson to play well at the QB position.

Injuries - what did we expect from the OL and a QB with a sore shoulder. Some might not have let injuries to the OL or a torn laburnum be an excuse for previous players but the reality is it's hard to play well when the OL is so porous and the D knows your passing.

It's one game - let's not over react. Bengals and Ravens both lost. Only Pit won -- we'll be fine. Let's talk about the team after week 4.


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Deshaun Watson

If the will and the desire isn’t inside him then there’s no hope.

This’s the danger when we offer a fortune of guaranteed money to a questionable character with a history of quitting when things don’t go his way. I don’t want to draw too many conclusions after one game but…

a) he doesn’t look to be in his best physical shape
b) his thought processes looks slower than ever
c) where was his fighting instincts and his pride to not look like a failure?

Kevin Stefanski

a) once again his gameplan and game calling was questionable
b) how can the team look unprepared in our first game at home?
c) continuing doing the same thing over and over again without any significant improvements raise serious questions

Andrew Berry

Restructuring Watson’s contract before the season starts without knowing what kind of player you get must be a sackable offense. You simply don’t sell the skin before you shot the bear. Are you kidding me!


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Every part of the game had some sort of foul odor.

I don't boo my team in game one. I can't fault those who did, I felt like booing. I just looked at my wife and left after the OSU band played. I think empty seats sends a better message. Plus, booing takes far more energy than just walking away.

The loss doesn't bother me so much. I always felt that a possibility. I just didn't expect us to look like a bunch of unprepared punks out there.

But, it's not about how you start, it's about how you finish, so let's see where this goes.


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Just an overall crappy Sunday for all facets of the team-- offense, defense, ST. This team looked overwhelmed and underprepared from the jump. It seemed to me that the game plan was to ease DW in with some short/quick passes to get him going AND address the Cowboys D with both tackles out. When the wheels came off, DW looked tentative and having to pass more gave the Cowboys D the leverage in terms of what to call against our offense.

First, on DW. He seemed worse than game one last year against the Bengals and we are concerned then. I truly hope the idea that he improves as the season wears on is true because we won't go anywhere with this type of play. That said, our OL was struggling. Often times, DW has ZERO time to make a play and pressure what always a factor. We needed some sort of running game and didn't get it. Granted, when you go down a bunch of points early you tend to abandon the running game and I understand that.

In the first half our DL provided little pressure against two rookie OL for the Cowboys. The Cowboys doubled/tripled Garrett and no one else could really make a play outside of that Tomlinson hit early. Prescott had more time to throw than Watson and it helped their offense.

Our WR did Watson no favors with what felt like a bunch of drops. That end zone throw to Cooper was beautiful and Cooper normally brings that in.

Penalties took the Browns out of offensive drives early.

Again, just a poor performance all around. We need to get the OL healthy FAST.


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Agreed - not the loss that I was dismayed about. I knew this would be a 50/50 game at best. It's HOW we looked. Gosh, it was bad.

My biggest two concerns:

1. Watson. Obviously. He is COOKED man.

2. Our OL. This is another big issue. Our OTs are not even substandard level. And the G's are getting too old (both of them were beat by speed multiple times yesterday)



Dallas is a legit team with talent and Super Bowl aspirations. We didn't look nearly the part yesterday.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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There was no redeeming grace in this performance.

We were terrible.

The exact opposite of what I wanted to see.

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haha so true


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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That was brutal. Boy, did Brady struggle as a commentator. He was as bad or worse at being prepared for his job than the Browns were.


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Safe to say the Watson trade is a failure. Perhaps the worst trade since '99 and maybe before too. Now we're married to a guy who sucks both on the field and off of it.


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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Happy Birthday man. Sure wish you had a W to celebrate today.


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Trying really really hard to be positive....

The rest of the AFC North (other than Baltimore) looked like hot garbage as well, and the Bengals and Steelers were playing the likes of Patriots and Falcons. The season isn't over after week 1 and if our Oline stabilizes when we get our tackles back, then this will end up being a bump in the road.

I was expecting the offense to be bad, especially when Conklin couldn't go. What kinda surprised me was that our D ended up being so middle-of-the-road. Contrast that to the Steelers... they won off of 6 field goals. If our D is supposed to win us some games, they gotta play better than that. Not excusing the O, but they are going to get all the heat when the defense similarly didn't step up.


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I understand the difficulty of having to play without our two starting OTs. But as an offensive staff, you know this going into the game and you know that Micah Parsons is on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Can you NOT game plan for that? Also, to NOT play a lot of these guys in the preseason with a NEW offensive system was a HUGE mistake. Watson looks awful; it always looks like hero/street ball with him. Most of the time he REFUSES to throw the ball away or go down. This can only lead to ANOTHER injury. But hey, he gets paid so who cares, right? Getting back to the OT situation, did anyone watch the Rams/Lions last night? The Rams had SEVERAL OL out AND lost their #1 WR during the game. Somehow they battled back only to lose in OT. I wonder what the difference was? If I'm in Berea, I'm on the phone right NOW seeing what it will take to get Flacco back here. There is WAY too much talent on this team to waste for ANOTHER year. I'm tired of the Watson experiment. He's either injured or doesn't want to play anymore. He got paid. He's done. All his press room rhetoric isn't hiding anything. He's not the leader or the QB talent that the Cleveland Browns need to be a winner. Joe Flacco IS that guy. I mean, he can't play any worse, right? I'd gamble on his upside. I don't see any upside to Watson at this point. Pay him and cut him. It's time to win in Cleveland and that time is NOW. Go Browns!


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I truthfully don't see ONE thing that Watson does well. He has no arm, no eyes, out of shape, one read guy, not elusive like he used to be, not a leader, poor body language ... he rivals ANY bad QB we've ever had (Kizer, Manziel, Weeden)


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I saw it in some body language from DW late in the game. Any predictions, dawgs, as far as an over/under until DW chooses to be injured this season. The bullets flew yesterday, and we proved the skipped work and preparation we avoided paid no benefit. Just looked like he was broken in so many ways.


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I'd say Watson won't (and shouldn't) last past week 6. We won't beat the Jags, Eagles .. or maybe even the Commanders and Raiders. If we are like 1-5 he's done


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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The team that was out there yesterday's best chance to win games are the next two weeks. If we continue to get what we saw, we will struggle to win three of the first eleven games.


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I looked at it

As the first game played of 17 games

16 games left, it would be nice to see the team improve.

Going into Jacksonville and getting a win would show signs of improvement

Take one week at a time

Not much more I can say

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I'm not going to jump on the "bash watson and the team train." Not that they don't deserve it. Not that those who have are wrong. Most everything negative I've seen posted in this thread is correct when referencing this game. It sucked and not just in one phase of the game, but by all accounts, most phases of the game. Not much positive to take away from this performance.

I just don't feel me repeating all of it adds any value. It's all been said by others already. So at this point all I would be doing is piling on.

As far as how I felt while watching the game and afterwords, it does not seem quite as bad as the reactions I've seen from some others. I think that has something to do with how I felt before the game ever started. I don't think I had the expectations some other fans did. Having high expectations when reality indicates there could be a boat load of trouble only serves to set yourself up for a huge letdown. There's a big difference between hope and expectations. I actually felt there was a strong possibility I would witness what I saw yesterday. Maybe not such a poor performance in all phases but I was prepared for bad results.

What I had and still have is hope that things will get better. When using hope there's no expectation. Just the desire to see something better.

As for my biggest positive after this game? We are in three way tie for second place in the division and only one game behind the first place team.


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one thing thats not been mentioned (from what I've seen):

our STs giving up a punt return TD ... those always add fuel to the fire of a blowout. IIRC the score was 20-3 and then that just added to the embarrassment. Our ST's has to be better


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I hope they can win the next four of the eleven.

At Jacksonville

Giants in Cleveland

Than two away games in Vegas and Washington

The third straight away game in Philly will be interesting

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Not defending DW but let's face it, he had no time to throw. Sacked 6 times hit many more times hurried. He took a beating. If he wasn't under so much pressure he may have done better.

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As for my biggest positive after this game? We are in three way tie for second place in the division and only one game behind the first place team.

And we played well enough to lock up a Top 5 finish within the division!


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Watson reminded me of Brady Quinn


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I don't know if this qualifies as a post game thought or just a general comment but I decided to post it here.....

watson has no 300 yard passing games in 13 games.

Flacco had four 300 yard passing games in 5 games.

I'm not saying that means anything unless you think that means something.


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Again, to be fair DW had no time to throw. He was rushed the whole game and was hit numerous of times. Some of his poor performance rests on him but not all. There were also some dropped balls that hurt us one by Njoku. DW looked frustrated when the cameras were on him. I don't think he wants to fail guaranteed money or not.

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I think what you'll also find is that when he did have time he held the ball. I'm not discounting what you're saying here but even when he did have time to throw the ball it didn't seem to help. The average time a QB has without pressure on a typical play is two seconds. I believe if you look back at the game you'll find when he did have that 2+ second window the results really weren't any different.


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