DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski sign contract extensions with the Browns

How could he be? He is extremely busy sending hurricanes to Florida and escalating the war in the Middle East.

I agree Bone. If Haslam truly supports his coach and believes in him, HE needs to be the one to publicly say: We are moving on from Watson and turning the page into a brighter future, which includes a fresh start, new stadium, etc

I think we can all agree this is the third year in a row that DW hasn’t played any NFL football.

He says he's throwing the BS flag, then procedures to make up a bunch of BS.

Reporting what the numbers actually say isn't being an enabler. Or are you trying to suggest that Depo manipulates the numbers to say what Haslam wants them to say? If so that sounds a little out there.

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You don't need to buy anything. I'm just telling you the facts Mac. They are free


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Jimmy Haslam has to be careful.

Kevin is only human and at the moment he don’t seems to get some public support from his nearest bosses. I have said it before and some of you will not like this but the working environment inside Berea isn’t optimal. Right now is borderline to bad when it comes to show leadership.

Anybody with some sorts of experience in management can see this from miles away.

This’s hard words and some will not like it but it has to be said. It’s in the end about what’s best for the organization to moving forward from this fiasco.
How to save what is left to save and what to do next so supporters don’t loose interest and quit engage.
Something must be done.

Andrew Berry, and to a lesser extent Kevin Stefanski, have failed.
That’s a fact. Results don’t lie.

Kevin is most of the time a good football coach. His record with the Browns is still above 0.5 but this season the losses are coming more frequently.
What he needs to work with is discipline, players seems unprepared and that the moral inside his team is fluctuating depending on ebb and flow in and between the games.

When it comes to our GM there’s nothing more to say.

He has totally mishandled what he inherited from Dorsey in 2020. There’s no room for excuses any longer.
It’s doesn’t matter how much he was involved in the Watson decision or not. The failure is total and as it stands it will take years to recover.
The ultimate responsibility inside Berea stops with him even if we all know that the owners were heavily involved.

Match goers and true supporters deserves better.
The city of Cleveland deserves better.
Even the players deserves better.

This organization is deeply dysfunctional and Andrew Berry has been involved in almost every bad decisions taken.

J/C

Is it safe to say our Super Bowl window has slammed shut?

Hey GM - if this is a question you can answer or even attempt to shed light on I'd be interested .... who in your opinion was the person most interested in trading for DW? Was it KS because he had lost trust in and there was friction with baker? Was it Berry who perhaps thought DW was the guy to relieve the friction between Baker and HC? Was it Depo who might have done a deep dive on the analytics and found DW in his hey day was a difference maker? Or owner who wanted to make a splash/headlines/saw Fastrack to SB contender?

I've always held a belief/guess that Depo must have been very high on DW for the owner and rest of the FO to go so hard for him. Or put another way - if all Dep does is present data ... Depo must have been very high on what the data represented? But that's exactly what I said: opinion/guess. I could be 100% wrong.

I think the below average window has been slammed shut lol

I like Quincy - not a big fan of this take. Meh.

Group effort AB, KS, QB coach/offensive cord, scouts, player personel department. They all deserve the credit or blame.