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We need to FLUSH this game and move forward ... it was a disaster day
We need to get healthy ... that's my #1 concern
And it's Flacco time
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I've always been on Stefanski's side. But that play calling was just ridiculous.
To see Ford only get 9 carries the way he was running just infuriates me.
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yeah, I thought we had a really awful approach today ... and STILL had a chance to take the lead . until the awful reverse play
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Don’t matter who the QB is, these receivers are a damn disappointment. The amount of drops is crazy. And don’t get me started on our LT, and the fact that Stefanski left him out on an island despite being beat repeatedly.
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Again, we played Denver. I chalked this game up to a loss when I first saw our schedule. We are now 7-25 lifetime against them.
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I'm just frustrated that key injuries have decimated this team and squandered our best D in decades. "Elite" defenses never reach the same potential as their predecessors...Anyone ever talk about the 1986 Bears D? or the 1992 Eagles? or the 2001 ravens? just really frustrating and depressing all in the same
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Pre-snap penalties -four in the first half- dropped passes, can’t execute a frikking handoff or a one-yard lateral. Clowns are back, even my wife laughed when Strong effed up that reverse.
Flacco is the only QB on our roster who can save us. Walker and DTR can’t deal. Bring in the grizzled vet who can throw the damn ball on time. Our D made good adjustments when they were up 14, kept us in it. We got gashed on the ground but this loss is on the O, and oh yeah, the play caller should have committed to the run when it was first and goal from the seven.
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About how I thought it might go. Injuries are adding up. The war of attrition may be the war that costs us the post season.
Next up.
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I hate Kevin Stefanski. That is all.
After 55 years, I'm walking away from this dumpster fire. Good luck to everyone who continues to hang on. You'll need it.
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I didn't think the play calling was bad
Actually it looked like DTR was gaining some confidence
They were playing in Mile high where players struggle to breath properly
The Drops are the main reason for lack of scoring
Take away the drops and it's a very close game
Penalties on the both sides didn't help much either
Just wonder if the injuries weren't part of being so high in the sky
Time to put this game behind
Get down to sea level and prepar to beat the Rams
Not letting this Loss get in the way of post season
Got to move on and get a win Sunday
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I'm disgusted; we simply handed them the game. They were ripe for the picking and we fell flat on our face....
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Stefanski and Berrys seats need to be on fire. Playoffs or bust. Can’t keep accepting this mediocre bs just because it’s not as bad a hue Jackson. Yeah it can always be worse , but middle of the road and never getting anywhere is just as bad imo
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Pre-snap penalties -four in the first half- dropped passes, can’t execute a frikking handoff or a one-yard lateral. Clowns are back, even my wife laughed when Strong effed up that reverse.
Flacco is the only QB on our roster who can save us. Walker and DTR can’t deal. Bring in the grizzled vet who can throw the damn ball on time. Our D made good adjustments when they were up 14, kept us in it. We got gashed on the ground but this loss is on the O, and oh yeah, the play caller should have committed to the run when it was first and goal from the seven. I thought DTR was improving as the game went on, despite drop after drop from his receivers. With that said I won't complain if Flacco gets the nod next week. This one's on Stefanski, the team just wasn't ready to play and this was his worst game plan of the year. How you don't focus on running the ball against the worst run defense in the league with a rookie qb is just mind boggling. I haven't been this upset after a loss in awhile.
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Meanwhile , Pittsburgh has the worst offensive output in the nfl, just fired their OC and are still better than us
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To me, nothing about the entire Browns effort felt in synch; right out of the gate the entire plan seemed awkward. The Browns seemed like they had found an identity with their D, but wow, Denver just showed how to beat Schwartz's scheme. The Offense had previously been able to do just enough to stay close and pull out a win. Clearly the lack of talent at QB and Stinfanski's Dr. Evil play calling combined with the D who gave up too much, exposed just how shaky the Browns truly are. The curtain at Oz has been pulled back, and Mr. Wizard is Hue Jackson's cousin. I would not be shocked to see the Browns finish at 7-10 after seeing today's shellacking.
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Yeah. Wright gets called twice for lining up in the neutral zone. You have to be be borderline brain-dead to do it once. Then he does it again!
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I didn't think the play calling was bad But Double D, they had the worst run defense in the league and we're passing the ball?
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- Lame performance from the coaching staff down to the players (not you, D-Hop).
- Browns went pass happy early against the NFL's worst rush defense.
- This entire game could be set to the Benny Hill music.
- Injuries continue to mount.
- I'm at a loss for a bright spot.
The Flacco era begins next week.
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How’s about you stop calling the coach stinkfanski? You keep lining up in the neutral zone.
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I don’t ever want to see PJ Walker again. We should cut him and pick up another old vet like Foles and carry three guys on the active roster.
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The Flacco era begins next week. Yep! There shouldn't even be a second thought about it....
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Not Stefanski's finest hour. He was basically being mocked by butt fumble the entire game for his playcalling. His playcalling was hard to justify today.
Season isn't lost. On to LA. Hopefully we have enough players to field a team next week.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I didn't think the play calling was bad But Double D, they had the worst run defense in the league and we're passing the ball? They also ranked 24th in passing defense Got to mix it up , Take back the drop passes and the play calling may not be as big of an issue I also saw some Browns Offensive players not doing a very good job executing plays I think Stefanski was trying to get DTR involved more to build confidence and get his rythm going I guess it's all what ifs at this point bb A win Sunday will help !
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What a sloppy game. Bad gameplan. Too many drops. Defense missing Ward. Everybody is injured. DTR played well. That was the only bright spot. Otherwise, total team and coaching L.
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What a sloppy game. Bad gameplan. Too many drops. Defense missing Ward. Everybody is injured. DTR played well. That was the only bright spot. You've got people in glee here that he got hurt so we can start the Flacco era...the guy we just signed off his couch. Super Bowl baby.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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the injuries are concern #1 for me
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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DTR isn’t ready, and might never be, PJ isn’t good, you have any better suggestions?
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no one is in “glee” about it either. And stop using that word. 
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What about today indicated he wasn't ready?
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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How’s about you stop calling the coach stinkfanski? You keep lining up in the neutral zone. I personally didn't line up in the neutral zone. Players lining up in the neutral zone would be on Schwartz's list to fix. When his coaching doesn't stink, I'll consider not referring to him as Stinkfanski. He dials up more trick plays than the Savannah Bananas and Harlem Globetrotters combined. He doesn't adjust and insists on running plays that the personnel on the field are not geared to do. In the time that he's been here, he's made mistakes at game management and play calling. He's arrogant in that he will not try another approach, such as letting his OC call plays when it's clear he struggles during the game to call plays and manage the game. The single playoff win they have is when he was out with Covid and AVP called the game. A good leader recognizes his weaknesses, and surrounds himself with people that will help him. I don't see that happening with KS.
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Uh, he can’t -or doesn’t -throw it deep downfield, he’s constantly throwing behind receivers, we scored 12 points today. Stuff like that.
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We simply ran out of players.
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Double reverse on the road down 1 score with a 3rd string XFL QB and barely running the ball up to that point.
I'll see my way out.
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Lol, savannah bananas. But seriously this loss isnt on the coach. It’s on all the things I mentioned in my first post here.
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A double reverse is fine if Strong doesn’t mess it up.
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But seriously this loss isnt on the coach. It's hard to have a serious conversation after this.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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A HC can’t be blamed when his moronic DE gets called twice for lining up in the neutral zone.
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Yes, those two plays are why the Browns lost.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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A double reverse is fine if Strong doesn’t mess it up. No. You simply do not call that play given the situation.
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Sign Landry and bring him back to Cleveland.
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