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So if we win tomorrow we can talk about the playoffs. If we lose we can start discussing prospects in the draft. We're good at that.

....but it's not October.

Run Run and Run ...

There is zero chance the Browns are winning tomorrow.

Take the Ravens on the moneyline. Easy money.

What is the line?

Money line? Ravens +130

Repeat post for this thread:

The Browns just released JaMarcus Bradley...Baker's WR/TE pass-catching options tomorrow are as follows:

Landry - Limited all week in practice...dinged up for most of the year

DPJ - Hopefully fully healthy and developing from his 6th Rd, 2nd year player status

Higgins - Not good enough to play last game ahead of JaMarcus Bradley

JoJo Natson - 2nd straight week call-up from the practice squad

Hooper - Yeah...Hooper

Miller Foristall - Call-up from the practice squad...He's tall


Hmmm...I wonder if the Ravens will dare us to throw...I know I would.

Higgins didn't play because he doesn't play special teams. A perpetual problem for him.

I've read that from KS before...and I want to believe it...BUT...Higgins still won't play special teams today and a guy who played at WR last week - while Higgins sat - not only won't play today...he's not even on the team anymore.

We have to do something today that Baltimore doesn't expect. Try a long pass on the 1st play or a screen but do what they don't expect it may open things up and set a precedent for the game.

....against an eight man front and then ask yourself why it didn't work.

You are your record, after all. I want our win to be a "no-doubter" today. The biggest threat is our sideline; need to go after the Ratters with everything and do that relentlessly. Said before, we can crack their nut mentally and pour it to them, but it has to be crushing and come out with points. We saw that takeaways are not enough. Beat them to ribbons with the kitchen sink. Today.

Unleash the Elves!

So you are saying abandon the run?

Hey! Its Don Henley! He gets a peaceful, easy feeling when we run the ball.

No, I'm saying you need to loosen up that seven and eight man front to succeed in the running game. If you can't show them you can pass the ball they have zero reason to loosen up that front and trying to "run the damn ball and don't stop" is an exercise in futility against an eight man front. As of now they have no reason to drop safeties into the secondary. That keeps them both up front to help in run support.

This really isn't complicated and is basic football. If your opponent is selling out to stop the run, you use the pass to loosen up the defense which in turn opens up the run. If your opponent is selling out to stop the pass, you use the run to get the defense to respect the run which will open up the pass. What I'm saying is that you can't "RELY on a heavy run game to succeed if they keep eight men in the box". You never abandon the run. But this whole notion of the way to win is to have a heavy run to pass ratio against an eight man front is fools gold.

Before every game we play it's the same old story. We get excited as Browns fans that today's game will be different. We will come out and dominate and finally beat an opponent from the 1st minute to the final one. More often than not we don't play well. Even with some of the wins it doesn't feel like a win. We find ourselves angry, frustrated, disgusted, and wonder why we even bother to have any interest. I want today to be exactly the opposite but I have that sinking empty feeling it will be more of the same. I hope I'm totally wrong.

I hope we win. It could be a huge turnaround point for us. We need this win badly

Excellent d
Get the offensive line fired up to punch Baltimore in the mouth.
Offense when you catch the deep throws take it to the house.

Technically I was correct.