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So…one recurring theme I see brought up frequently is: “Why keep bringing up Trump!? He’s not President anymore.” I understand that. Historically, presidents almost always bow out and maintain a low profile after they leave office. No real reason to keep bringing them up. I get it. The counter-argument is that that Trump keeps making this about him, leveraging his influence through marketing, and controlling the overall direction of the Republican Party. He has not taken a back seat like his predecessors. To that point, I proffer exhibit A: Trump Cards I mean…come on… Why??? I used to consider myself Republican. I left the party because of the changing demeanor and some issues before Trump arrived combined with my own research and realizations behind how destructive political parties really are. So, honest question, if you still identify as a Conservative or a Republican, do you approve of the former President issuing Trump Cards? If so, will you purchase one?
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Just another grift to take your money.
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He does this because he's going for the money.. That's it.
I can't believe the fools that keep giving him money...
August 14th is right around the corner.. What will be the excuse his supporters give when he's not reinstalled as president.
My Pillow guy starting walking that back right after he said it, so my guess is they'll just find another excuse
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Normally I find politics abhorrent.
In general politcians are power prostitutes. Lies and hypocrisy are the ways of doing business.
trump started something that unleashed the worst of politics. He has turned the republican party into an exclusive club.
The structure of democracy is based upon compromise. Opposing forces meet in the middle. That is a give and take where the balance is a flavor of both.
That is not the case today. The republican party is off the rails. Compromise is not a goal. It has become a party of non inclusive elitists that are tapping into white power and division.
Not so much a matter of race. But one seeking power through race.
A solid regular conservative republican like Bush, Romney etc. Are not the problem. It is the right wing of the party driving division and hatred.
Pockets of the country are going rogue. White extremists have come out of the closet. Their appeal to followers is much like the rise of nazi's. White nationalism and guns.
The country is becoming "race polluted" and "immigrant polluted" this was the calling card of trump.
It is important right now for the democrats to lead. They of course are not without fault. But until the republican party returns to it's roots and at the same time become more progressive and inclusive.
IMO they need to be voted out of power.
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I challenge anybody to look at those cards, why trump wants people to carry, and then try and to claim people are overreacting when they make comparisons to Nazis.
I attempted to not call trump and his supporters nazis. I compared him more to Mussolini than hitler.
But now? This is straight up hitler style nonsense. At this point, MAGA hatters might as well put the arm band on as well. Go all in, that way I can at least respect your level of commitment.
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I didn't think of it that way. I thought it was just another way to siphon funds his way. I'd probably feel different if he were doing this while he was still president.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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At this point, based on everything else we know, I have no reason to believe he DIDNT want to try some crap like this while he was president.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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At this point, based on everything else we know, I have no reason to believe he DIDNT want to try some crap like this while he was president. Want to try? He did try. But failed miserably like he has at everything else in his life. Well, everything except suckering the suckers out there
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That's how this all works, Trump keeps doing rallies, controlling the party and Republican politicians keep espousing his stupidity. Meanwhile they claim we should just be quiet about it all.
As we can see by these Trump Cards, his cult is still strong.
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But now? This is straight up hitler style nonsense. At this point, MAGA hatters might as well put the arm band on as well. Go all in, that way I can at least respect your level of commitment. 
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I used to consider myself Republican. I left the party because of the changing demeanor and some issues before Trump arrived combined with my own research and realizations behind how destructive political parties really are. You did your own research?!!! Say it ain't so! Haven't you heard how horrible that is?!!! 
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Haha, well depending on how you view it, it can be horrible.
Ignorance is bliss sometimes.
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This is stupid. I guess Trump is grasping at having a fan club.
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I'll be totally honest. I'm surprised to see you say that. Quite frankly, I was waiting for you to bash me over the head for not letting go of something Trump-related. I was wrong, apparently.
And sometimes, I do agree that those on the left shouldn't take criticism of their own and flip it to being how bad Trump is/was.
I just felt like this was a whole new level.
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There's plenty of other threads to talk about your tds.  Im not a Trump fan, but I do get tired of hearing about him.
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I do, too. And I think that's a fault of a lot of people, including those on the far right that still cling to him.
Sadly, "hearing about him" is probably his number one goal, and we all play into that, myself included. The worst thing that could happen to him - in his mind - is that people move on.
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As he continues to hold rallies and continues to control many republican politicians, continues to raise funds and continues to be considered for another run at the presidency they don't want us to talk about it. I'd say it's pretty safe to say if they could get him to shut the hell up, so would we.
But they want him to be able to run around Scot-Free along while he and his many minions are continuing to spread the very lies that caused the insurrection while everyone else remain silent. That isn't going to happen.
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So, honest question, if you still identify as a Conservative or a Republican, do you approve of the former President issuing Trump Cards? If so, will you purchase one?
I 'identify' as a conservative AND a republican. I wouldn't buy a trump card if it was free.
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Cards, cards... he don't need no stinking cards...LOL Fantastic news... Trump Puts Democrats on Notice with 'Virtually Unprecedented' Midterm Fundraising Haul Joe Saunders August 2, 2021 Inside or outside the White House, Donald Trump keeps making history. Political action committees for the former president, out of office for more than six months now, have posted more than $82 million in donations in the first half of the year, Politico reported this weekend. And heading into the midterms next year, that has to make Democrats very uncomfortable. Between Trump’s Save America PAC and the Make America Great Again PAC, the 45th president has more than $100 million on hand to shape next year’s campaigns. It’s an amount Politico called “virtually unprecedented.” “Never in history has a former president banked nine figures’ worth of donations to power a political operation,” staff writers Alex Isenstadt and Meredith McGraw wrote. Naturally, there was the usual nonsense about supporters being “whipped up” by “baseless” allegations of fraud in the 2020 election — as though Trump backers are such a benighted lot that they refuse to accept the word of CNN and The New York Times that President Joe Biden’s victory was unassailable. (The Democrats’ vampire-and-holy-water reaction to the Maricopa County, Arizona, election audit shows even they don’t believe that.) But the reality is inescapable: Bans from social media, unrelenting attacks from political opponents (Democratic and Republican), and Emmanuel Goldstein treatment from the propaganda press haven’t dampened his appeal to a vast segment of the American public. As Politico reported, Trump’s PACs have raised money “on a scale similar to the GOP’s official political arms, the Republican National Committee and the party’s House and Senate campaign committees.” And that means Trump’s influence is likely to be a major factor in midterm elections that will determine the fate of the Biden presidency. It doesn’t get nearly enough attention in the mainstream media, but the Democratic hold on power is fingernail thin. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s Democrats have 220 members to Republicans’ 212, meaning a swing of a half-dozen seats in 2022 will turn her back into a minority leader. https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-put...NnAz78DONBOlebI
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So when are you buying yours?
You really have no issue with this? Let’s hear from fish, the person, not fish the copier of right wing articles.
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Let’s hear from fish, the person, not fish the copier of right wing articles. No such person exists.
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So when are you buying yours?
You really have no issue with this? Big deal, you make a donation and receive a Trump signed card. What's the difference from this advertisement? Membership Level:$44 monthly In honor of the 44th president, your monthly gift of $44 will include a limited-edition enamel pin, our exclusive Obama Foundation Field Notes, and a sticker pack. This colorful pin features a quotation from Mrs. Obama in which she praises her upbringing on the South Side of Chicago. Your kit will arrive within a few weeks and your monthly donation will continue to support our work until cancelled.
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So, you are sidestepping the issue with a whataboutism here, but let me address that and distinguish, and I was no huge fan of Obama, but...
1. The $44 donation is for the Obama Foundation, which is a nonprofit organization that offers scholarships, fights racial inequality and is attempting to build a Center in Chicago.
2. Many on the far right cry foul that people still bring up Trump, but still bring up Obama, as you did.
3. The marketing for the Trump Card, vs the Obama donation states as follows:
"They will be a sign of your dedicated support to our movement to SAVE AMERICA, and I'm putting my full trust in you,” the email added.
The second email said the “Official Trump Cards” would be “reserved for President Trump's STRONGEST supporters."
Not exactly apples to apples...
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Details, context and facts *should* matter. . .
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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So, you are sidestepping the issue with a whataboutism here, but let me address that and distinguish, and I was no huge fan of Obama, but...
1. The $44 donation is for the Obama Foundation, which is a nonprofit organization that offers scholarships, fights racial inequality and is attempting to build a Center in Chicago.
2. Many on the far right cry foul that people still bring up Trump, but still bring up Obama, as you did.
3. The marketing for the Trump Card, vs the Obama donation states as follows:
"They will be a sign of your dedicated support to our movement to SAVE AMERICA, and I'm putting my full trust in you,” the email added.
The second email said the “Official Trump Cards” would be “reserved for President Trump's STRONGEST supporters."
Not exactly apples to apples... Wow you kinda nailed "What's the difference from this advertisement?"  Reading Is Fundamental
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Well Ted Cruz is VERY against having to carry papers to prove stuff, but his dad killed Kennedy and his wife is ugly so......
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Hey it's Offical! The misspelled word official in his "Official" card... Offical sounds like "Of Fecal" like it's a handmaid's name.
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You can't purchase anything with it but I suspect there will still be an annual fee.
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Hey it's Offical! The misspelled word official in his "Official" card... Offical sounds like "Of Fecal" like it's a handmaid's name. thats hilarious good catch 
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thats hilarious good catch Good catch? LMAO It's on every liberal site...but yeah, good catch. 
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fish over here ragging on someone for copy-pasting from partisan sites.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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I hear if you say his name three times in the mirror, a free Breitbart subscription shows up in your email.  (That’s a joke, fish).
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Must be dated, no way Pence shows up on anything post election.
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I’ll stick with my Amex thanks.
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So you managed to officially join the cult a year earlier than most.
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Must be dated, no way Pence shows up on anything post election. Good catch,, No way Pence is on another ticket with Trump.. I mean, after all, Pence let Trump down by doing his legal duty. Trump will NEVER understand that.. NEVER.
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